brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40506109

Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg has named his sixth child Sixtus Dominic Boniface Christopher.

The backbencher announced the new arrival on Instagram, where attention focused on the eye-catching name.

The name Sixtus is shared with five popes, most recently in 1590.

"Helena and I announce with great joy that we have a baby Sixtus Dominic Boniface Christopher, a brother for Peter, Mary, Thomas, Anselm and Alfred." Mr Rees-Mogg said.

The other children's full names are Alfred Wulfric Leyson Pius, Thomas Wentworth Somerset Dunstan, Peter Theodore Alphege, Anselm Charles Fitzwilliam and Mary Anne Charlotte Emma Rees-Mogg.

The Tory MP for North East Somerset, who recently joined Instagram, has become something of a cult figure on social media, with dozens of Facebook pages devoted to him.

poll?

Odysseus, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 12:17 (nine years ago)

moggo needs his own thread

(polls are bad tho) except twitter polls abt the best marple, they are good)

mark s, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 12:30 (nine years ago)

today I learned that 'Sixtus' does not actually mean 'six' (presumably Mogg already knows this and decided to call the child Sixtus anyway)

Sixtus was a Roman name, a corruption of the Greek name "Ξυστος," meaning "polished," and originally Latinized "Xystus." In its Spanish form Sixto it is still used as a personal name. It is not to be confused with the common Roman praenomen "Sextus," meaning "sixth," though not necessarily denoting a sixth child.

also, there have only been five Popes Sixtus

soref, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 12:40 (nine years ago)

roman name for sixth kid is sextus (or sexta)

popes take a name as pope anyway, like djs: it would be a bit odd (=grebt) to call yrself pope sixth kid the second

so these ones were pope smooth 1-6

mark s, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 12:50 (nine years ago)

there's no ridiculousness or stakes in Rees-Mogg's choice of names. he's a toff cosplaying a toff, his children are never gonna be in social circles where anybody would raise an eyebrow at their names, let's not memeify the pitiful fascist cunt

more polls about food and reactionary art (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 12:53 (nine years ago)

i can imagine an element of DUP side-eye to be fair

mark s, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 13:05 (nine years ago)

lol well yes i'm sure there are plenty of anglo-catholic public schools available tho

more polls about food and reactionary art (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 13:07 (nine years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD9_NDZXsAApbye.jpg

hilarious guy, now lets build a nice 19th century style gallows for the cunt!

calzino, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 13:20 (nine years ago)

Lol

quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 13:26 (nine years ago)

cosplay is exactly right, he is totally unserious

ogmor, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 13:50 (nine years ago)

Spare a thought for my best friend's youngest posh cousin, whose siblings are John and Mary, while he is Tertius.

syzygy stardust (suzy), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 13:59 (nine years ago)

idgaf how serious or unserious he is tbh, he's a smug shitbag who's actively working to make worse the lives of people who aren't just like him

and he has a fucking nanny

bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 14:01 (nine years ago)

Gonna need clarification on whether that's for his kids or

quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 14:11 (nine years ago)

chris de burgh style

massaman gai, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 18:32 (nine years ago)

THE ABSOLUTE GIRL

NEW #AGITPOD! Hosted by me and @OwenJones84 with our very special guest, the absolute girl @NaomiAKlein ✊💖🌟 https://t.co/Nvmj968amK

— Ellie Mae O'Hagan (@MissEllieMae) July 5, 2017

the pinefox, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 23:06 (nine years ago)

every time I see the name Ellie Mae O'Hagan I involuntarily think "Ellie Mayonnaise" (or Ellie Mae O'Naise)

soref, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 23:19 (nine years ago)

The absolute girl doesn't work because women are often patronisingly referred to as girls.

Jack-et potato? (jed_), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 23:21 (nine years ago)

It works, little boy.

syzygy stardust (suzy), Thursday, 6 July 2017 04:46 (nine years ago)

a friend once (*very* admiringly) referred to naomi klein as "an absolute monster."

I'm not suggesting this as a standard epithet.

plax (ico), Thursday, 6 July 2017 05:55 (nine years ago)

I have now looked into this material and there is more ABSOLUTE BOY CORBYN material out there than I thought.

How about:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-absolute-boy-meme-sexism-womens-rights-labour-party-a7818431.html

I thin this article is very bad. Sample:

"It might have been endearing if the term “absolute boy” had been used to describe Justin Trudeau, who made half of his cabinet female, or Barack Obama, who passed equal pay legislation, or even Tony Blair, who for his (oh so many) sins did double maternity pay and introduce paid paternity leave during his time as Prime Minister. But Corbyn has proven over and over again that gender inequality in Britain is nowhere near a priority in his mind."

the pinefox, Thursday, 6 July 2017 07:00 (nine years ago)

[*think]

the pinefox, Thursday, 6 July 2017 07:00 (nine years ago)

When I used to be a betting shop manager in a shop with mostly Afro-Caribbean punters, one really argumentative punter used to often call me "lollipop boy" if he was pissed off with me. It was probably meant as a grave insult, but I thought it was pretty funny!

calzino, Thursday, 6 July 2017 07:02 (nine years ago)

I did not write that post well. It should have started something like 'I have now looked into this question again'.

The article is bad though.

Here is another:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/09/corbyn-memes-wot-won-it-some-of-the-best

the pinefox, Thursday, 6 July 2017 07:03 (nine years ago)

'Lollipop Boy' is on my forthcoming orange flexidisc of buzzsaw guitar pop.

the pinefox, Thursday, 6 July 2017 07:06 (nine years ago)

Gonna need clarification on whether that's for his kids or

he went fucking canvassing with his nanny, the prick

bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 July 2017 08:36 (nine years ago)

I can remember hearing him on AQ around the time Trump was elected, and he was chirpily talking up what fabulous trade deals we could have with the US post-brexit. He is definitely an over-educated idiot and his contrived genteel Brit posturing is as hackneyed as a teacup full of stale piss with a "keep calm .." slogan on the cup.*

*I probably nicked that from Stewart Lee, but it seems correct.

calzino, Thursday, 6 July 2017 09:03 (nine years ago)

the absolute female adult human

soref, Thursday, 6 July 2017 10:52 (nine years ago)

The very idea that you can be a feminist who approves wars of aggression and does not oppose austerity is completely mind-boggling to me. It's an aesthetics of feminism which fetishises certain kinds of representation. It is an obsession with women in boardrooms. Trudeau is entirely literate in a meme-ready version of feminism which is all about making images of "diversity," but to me, even on its own meagre terms I wonder how this almost dynastic appointment of the prince charming president furthers the cause of women. There is something about Trudeau that really gives me hives.

I would have thought that improving the conditions of care and medical support staff (overwhelmingly female) or carers (same) could only really be understood as feminist issues, but these are easy to ignore if you are living in a way that is untouched by concerns related to social care, disability payments, and indeed many of the other issues related to the slashing of benefits and the outsourcing their administration. It depresses me that a completely incurious pundit class applauds glass-ceiling gestures but is seemingly blind to the questions that directly effect the lives of many more women. It's especially annoying, because the greater level of support for Corbyn among women shows that women do understand this, it is just rarely reflected in the media, further revealing the class disconnect between commentators and broader population. Precarity, austerity and health are important feminist issues. Who needs better maternity pay when you're on a zero hours contract? Who cares that there's a lady PM when she's slashing social protections for women?

plax (ico), Thursday, 6 July 2017 10:52 (nine years ago)

^^gibberish, sorry

plax (ico), Thursday, 6 July 2017 10:54 (nine years ago)

You can be anything tho

quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 July 2017 10:57 (nine years ago)

xp
I was agreeing with a lot of your post there plax. Trudeau is a slimeball and austerity has statistically hit woman harder, but a large portion of (female ones as well) various tossers of the commentariat - don't seem to want to acknowledge this fact.

calzino, Thursday, 6 July 2017 11:14 (nine years ago)

When I went to France I kept hearing "people think Macron is like Trudeau, but..." from anti-Macron French leftists and I had to keep pointing out that Trudeau isn't much cop either.

Anyway Corbz started off with the "first frontbench team in British parliamentary history to comprise a female majority", sez wikipedia.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 6 July 2017 15:03 (nine years ago)

Watching QT, red faced Tories out in force again. Burton-on-Trent Branch.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 July 2017 22:43 (nine years ago)

I suppose the hot weather's been a bit tough on them.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 July 2017 22:44 (nine years ago)

Watched Novara instead. Matt Z-C reminds me a little bit of Matt DC. (eyebrows mostly)

Stevie T, Thursday, 6 July 2017 22:51 (nine years ago)

I really hope there are no fatal strokes (of bad luck) occurring amongst the less independently wealthy + unhealthy looking tory voting twats. Because they are just going to love the ESA life, especially when they become ill as fuck "benefits scum" themselves!

calzino, Thursday, 6 July 2017 22:59 (nine years ago)

Mary Anne Charlotte Emma Rees-Mogg.

Emma, not Emily? What the hell? She def got off easy though.

JoeStork, Thursday, 6 July 2017 23:18 (nine years ago)

He doesn't appear to expend anything like as much time on names for his female children.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 July 2017 23:21 (nine years ago)

Well he is a "bit of a character" etc...

calzino, Thursday, 6 July 2017 23:32 (nine years ago)

Slavoj Zizek was just on THIS WEEK making a long attack on 'political correctness' which did not leave Andrew Neil time for a second question. Michael Portillo nodded and Alan Johnson tried not to laugh. It was a very bizarre encounter between different cultural spheres.

the pinefox, Thursday, 6 July 2017 23:48 (nine years ago)

Zizek pretty comfortable these days as the Court Jester of the chattering classes, needs to go away imo.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 7 July 2017 08:58 (nine years ago)

Ya would dispute that Zizek is in a different cultural sphere to Neil or Portillo rly. With Jeremy Clarkson being a somewhat lower profile figure these days, he's stepping into a gap

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 7 July 2017 09:11 (nine years ago)

Zizek did a joint Q+A with Kotkin about his Stalin biography a couple of years back. Big mistake, because Kotkin is a very interesting speaker, but Zizek shitted up almost the whole session with his incessant + ill disciplined rambling routines. I hate seeing him doing his "thing" on UK politics, it might be worth having a hard-right Tory style brexit just to deport this eejit (jokes of course).

calzino, Friday, 7 July 2017 09:26 (nine years ago)

I don't like Zizek (though I have found some value in some of his shorter pieces on political events). On the programme he came across as a buffoon, to put it politely.

But he was still something of a radically different on THIS WEEK in his wild eccentricity, endless talk and reference to being a 'philosopher'. The others treated him as a bizarre incomer.

the pinefox, Friday, 7 July 2017 11:59 (nine years ago)

"He's a buffoon but at least he's different" isn't selling this woeful sack of shock-to-order to me

Shanty Brunch (stevie), Friday, 7 July 2017 12:02 (nine years ago)

It's why I went for court jester - he's the eccentric it's ok to like, whatever radical potential there might once have been in his politics has been totally drowned in a sea of shtick.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 7 July 2017 12:05 (nine years ago)

I am not defending him. I don't like him.

the pinefox, Friday, 7 July 2017 12:46 (nine years ago)

The latest YouGov poll has Labour on an 8pt lead. Nothing to celebrate yet tho, it is so disappointing that these fucks are still in government and still maintaining PIP assessments and rolling out Universal Credit. I got a lolsome leaflet about UC from my local authority advising me to have some savings to utilise while going 6-8 weeks without any income. It is rolling out here in November, so it will be a fun Crimbo! If I didn't have the kid's DLA coming in, we would deffo be having our first foodbank trip soon, so at least I can be grateful for something!

calzino, Friday, 7 July 2017 12:52 (nine years ago)

Ending up in the shit, just on that last desperate period of power exerted by a dying, nearly defeated government. It's sort of like getting shot at 10am on armistice day!

calzino, Friday, 7 July 2017 13:22 (nine years ago)

Ach that is properly shite Calzino - if you want something to celebrate imagine the fear that the 8-point lead has put in Tories Various.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 7 July 2017 15:58 (nine years ago)


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