brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

you can totally see the grandees buying this mogg bs http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-40432921

Those are some weak memes

oops sorry SV. I posted that Chakrabortty piece to the Grenfell thread earlier before I'd clicked on here.

upping their meme game is apparently a priority for the tories

The Conservatives will go to war with Labour on digital media and create a network of Momentum-style social action groups under plans being drawn up by the party.

In the face of a furious backlash from MPs, the party will seek to “broaden its appeal” and quadruple the number of staff engaged in social media campaigns, according to a leaked memo being circulated at Conservative campaign headquarters (CCHQ).

horrified by the idea that having dodged the threat of Prime Minister Boris Johnson we might end up with Prime Minister Jacob Rees-Mogg instead.

re councils: a lot of bad things are happening with property, inc where I live - where recent 'development' has been a disaster.

But while I think councils have made bad decisions I don't think they are all malicious in the way that quotation describes. I think many Labour councils have just felt battered by debilitating cuts, and unable to make good decisions, and desperate to take any option (inc 'development') that fills a financial hole.

I didn't have much idea of how bad it was till the Tom Crewe essay on local government in the LRB.

You make it sound like they are somehow innocent + oblivious to the fact that social housing tenants are getting lied to and getting one-way tickets out of their homes and London, when they actually know very well that is happening under their schemes.

Where I lived in Walthamstow there were accusations about the local Labour councillors being slum landlords, corruption, etc. I get the impression that this is pretty common across the country, that local government is full of corrupt scumbags. The party they are in seems to be irrelevant.

I remember reading somewhere last year that nearly a quarter of Labour MPs were landlords and many of them with multiple London props on their portfolios. Which is a separate issue really, but fuck these bozos.

Breaking: @DavidLammy @CatherineWest1 have this morning written a joint letter to @ClaireKober asking her to "pause" HDV plans (1/n)

— Aditya Chakrabortty (@chakrabortty) July 3, 2017

Well at least this might be some good news for once.

Wow @ that article. Takes no prisoners. Thank god he's around.

It looks like it might have have actually made a difference as well.

Lol! Is Keith Flett (mentioned on here the other day) really still going? I don't know if it's fake but there is a twitter acct in his name with "Stakhanovite epistolarian" in his biog.

chakrabortty's been writing abt the HDV before but i think the shape and dynamic of such things has actually changed since grenfell and also lammy has decided to be seen to be on fire about it

re flett: he's definitely on twitter, i have friends who post abt beer (and beards) and flett is in their larger circle

(don't know if he's still a swuppie since the split in 2013)

Chakrabortty liveblogging on the Haringey council meeting suggests that "zombie-blairite councillors" is probably way too kind an
epithet for some of these fuckers.

Councillor Goldberg responds to deputation that an Asian centre (Bangladeshi, by the names) will be made homeless pic.twitter.com/Dd6gkleRAf

— Aditya Chakrabortty (@chakrabortty) July 3, 2017

Most heartbreaking moment: After being told they'll be homeless and that there's nowhere for them to go, the Asian centre thanks the council

Aditya Chakrabortty‏Verified account @chakrabortty 11m11 minutes ago

After hearing dozens of councillors and locals raise serious questions and objections, Haringey cabinet kick out public.
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Aditya Chakrabortty‏Verified account @chakrabortty 9m9 minutes ago

In seconds, they vote through the largest privatisation of its kind. Demolition of homes, huge payouts for Lendlease, little accountability
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Aditya Chakrabortty‏Verified account @chakrabortty 8m8 minutes ago

The LibDems will likely call in the motion, then there will almost certainly be a Judicial Review.

So where is Corbyn/Leadership in this exactly? One of the few criticisms of him that sticks.

HDV voted through, has he even vocally opposed it yet?

More needs to be done than mere lip service or polite letters from Lammy to stop this rot.

There were sickening scenes at that meeting tonight in Chakrabortty's reportage, too many to mention as well.

The gigantic mound of paperwork that tenants were supposed have digested in a couple of days.

The fucking slug-like councillor talking about the poor doors like he was a good honest guy for being so upfront.

and this bit was nice:"After hearing dozens of councillors and locals raise serious questions and objections, Haringey cabinet kick out public."

and this"Another cllr raises point I made today: the council promises right of return but docs show they'll prioritise tenants being moved (out) once"

Best wishes to you and yours, cal. This really needs to be jumped on now but I'm not seeing any major news sources talking about it. This fucking country.

Thanks Jed, if she was on her own she would living from foodbanks rn - like many are. As it is we are currently in a financially reduced situation rather than a completely disastrous one. So I can't moan when some have got it much worse, but yeah fuck this government and these apparatchiks of austerity who "are just doing their jobs" fucking over disabled people. Oh yes, there will be gulags for them as well after the big inquest!

Imagine Nick Robinson repeated asking Darling on Today earlier if he was ever going to get his party back. These fucks are losing complete comprehension of reality rn.

Do these Haringey councillors a) not take seriously the possibility of deselection for next years local elections b) don't care and are determined to force this through come what may?

Haringey councillors now accusing him of outright lying about the Asian Centre.

I'm guessing that Haringey no longer has any local paper with the resources and inclination to cover this story properly?

Chakrabortty is getting the ad hominemming of his life from Cllr Joe Goldberg on Twitter rn, and as a bonus JG is complaining about Labour lefties' criticism of him being inherently anti-Semitic.

JG using that tired line that Chakrabortty is commenting from a position of "elite privilege" . Yes we know he is a Guardian journalist you corrupt dickhead.

People who are not from a position of "elite privilege" where unceremoniously dumped out of the chamber, so somebody needs to be.

How much influence does the leadership have over what local councils do? Serious question.

This guy seems... odd?

Indeed and I wrote to you to urge you to take action on anti-semitism (twice) and you never even replied https://t.co/CVhdxhZuZC

— Joe Goldberg (@joedgoldberg) July 3, 2017

lmao @ twitter avi #48percentnation #Resist

This guy seems... odd?

You are obviously not familiar with this thread: Local councillors

A lot of London Labour councils are just really bad because they've operated for decades with virtually no opposition. They become complacent at best and entirely mendacious at worst, with than veneer of "but we're Labour so we must be the good guys really".

JG using that tired line that Chakrabortty is commenting from a position of "elite privilege" . Yes we know he is a Guardian journalist you corrupt dickhead.

lol, he's attacking him as part of the 'elite' for going to the same state school that i did.

A lot of London Labour councils are just really bad because they've operated for decades with virtually no opposition. They become complacent at best and entirely mendacious at worst, with than veneer of "but we're Labour so we must be the good guys really".

That worked out really well for the Labour Party in Scotland after all.

"brand strategist"

xpost

A lot of London Labour councils are just really bad because they've operated for decades with virtually no opposition

I was just about to make an almost identical post to Tom D abt Scotland.

Sounds like there may be a new scandal brewing just when they (or presumably the country) doesn't need there to be one with the bigger group they're part of. Are the Tories going to start looking justified in light of this or will it be spun that way.
Are there further Tory scandals that need to be outed yet, or immminently?

They become complacent at best and entirely mendacious at worst, with than veneer of "but we're Labour so we must be the good guys really".

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:57 (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Look I love my ilx UK cru but cmere

this is a problem all over the country, council meetings becoming formalities with the real discussion happening elsewhere, they've become very undemocratic

Let's cheer up with a quote from Angela Rayner, describing Arlene Foster: 'the most expensive right-winger since Cristiano Renaldo'.

if Angela Rayner knew football that joke could've landed

Dominic Cummings, the Vote Leave campaign director, described the referendum as a “dumb idea” before other ideas had been tried to win back powers from Brussels. He has also warned that Brexit is shaping up to be a “guaranteed debacle”, without big changes in Whitehall to deliver a successful negotiation.

Tim Farron, the Liberal Democrat leader, seized on the comments, saying: “Dominic Cummings has let the cat out of the bag. This is the man who slapped the £350m NHS lie on the side of the bus who is now saying leaving the EU could be a mistake.

“These Brexiteers have sold us a pup and lied to the public. This is why I believe the public should be given a say on the final Brexit deal.”

Brexit: Vote Leave chief who created £350m NHS lie on bus admits leaving EU could be 'an error'

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/04/hard-brexit-means-people-fleeing-uk-jeremy-hunt-note-says

People keep saying the phrase "sold us a pup" as if it's nbd.

Since when did pups take preference over pigs in a poke?

during classic famine conditions I'm sure a pup would contain slightly less protein than a pig in a poke.

Arr, but a pig in a poke is really a cat in the bag!