brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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I see. I didn't see that. It doesn't sound good to me.

However, more recently (eg, since JC's second leadership win) I've tended to hear CU saying very respectful things about JC. With a certain sense that position-taking / maneouvring is going on somehow. But without much sense that CU himself is about to become a leadership contender or anything like that.

the pinefox, Sunday, 2 July 2017 15:16 (nine years ago)

I think that CU, separated from the chance of much 'power', has tried to pose as more of a 'thinker'. Tristram Hunt did the same move very briefly - then quit politics.

Then again CU is also a constituency MP and might be doing some good works for the people who elected him, aside from all the higher-level stuff.

the pinefox, Sunday, 2 July 2017 15:18 (nine years ago)

That PM appearance by Chuka sort of summed everything that is wrong with him imo. Like thinking having a public laugh with a Tory Leave campaigner about how shit your party leader is when are meant to be campaigning for Remain is quite an ok way to conduct yourself. Then having the gall to join the PLP Right chorus of "Jeremy didn't campaign hard enough and must go".

calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2017 15:57 (nine years ago)

What's PM?

Heavy Doors (jed_), Sunday, 2 July 2017 18:51 (nine years ago)

R4 current affairs show w/ Eddie Mair

calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2017 18:53 (nine years ago)

Ah cool.

Heavy Doors (jed_), Sunday, 2 July 2017 18:57 (nine years ago)

Wimbledon warns supporters against political chants and slogans amid fears of outbreak of Corbynism

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/30/wimbledon-warns-supporters-against-political-chants-slogans/

Heavy Doors (jed_), Sunday, 2 July 2017 20:48 (nine years ago)

Centre Court is pretty much the most Tory place in Britain so they must be shook.

Matt DC, Sunday, 2 July 2017 22:10 (nine years ago)

Someone should have a word with Jack White, a version with amended lyrics could be Xmas number one!

Mark G, Sunday, 2 July 2017 22:48 (nine years ago)

I expect the Evening Times letters department will be inundated after this....

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/15385013.Bloodshed__drunkenness_and_triumphalism__the_Orange_Order_on_the_streets_of_Scotland/?ref=fbshr

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Monday, 3 July 2017 00:27 (nine years ago)

Chakraborttyy on typically good form reH Haringey:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/03/britain-power-contempt-grenfell-labour-haringey-social-housing

However easy it is for pundits to conflate today’s Labour party with Jeremy Corbyn, to do so ignores the daily experience of people under many Labour councils that are his ideological opposite. Such as the zombie Blairites who run Haringey, and who bear as much resemblance to Corbyn’s Labour as Jive Bunny does to death metal. This shower recently sold an art deco town hall to Hong Kong investors to turn into a boutique hotel and expensive flats – with just four affordable homes.

They spent more than £40,000 of taxpayers’ money this year to swan off to a property fair in Cannes and sell their land to multinational developers. Alongside nuggets about how easy local transport connections make it to leave the borough, their investor brochure bursts with computer images of a FutureHaringey full of shiny towers, a bit like Blade Runner for buy-to-let landlords. Strangely, for an area in which around one in four residents is black, it features not a single black face. The council’s own 2015 assessment of its housing strategy says: “Black residents may not benefit from the plans to build more homes in the borough.” It goes on: “The ability of local people to afford the new homes being built, is dependent on them … increasing their incomes to a sufficient level to afford the new homes.”

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 3 July 2017 07:32 (nine years ago)

you can totally see the grandees buying this mogg bs http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-40432921

stet, Monday, 3 July 2017 09:49 (nine years ago)

Those are some weak memes

Shanty Brunch (stevie), Monday, 3 July 2017 10:14 (nine years ago)

oops sorry SV. I posted that Chakrabortty piece to the Grenfell thread earlier before I'd clicked on here.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 10:18 (nine years ago)

upping their meme game is apparently a priority for the tories

The Conservatives will go to war with Labour on digital media and create a network of Momentum-style social action groups under plans being drawn up by the party.

In the face of a furious backlash from MPs, the party will seek to “broaden its appeal” and quadruple the number of staff engaged in social media campaigns, according to a leaked memo being circulated at Conservative campaign headquarters (CCHQ).

soref, Monday, 3 July 2017 10:22 (nine years ago)

horrified by the idea that having dodged the threat of Prime Minister Boris Johnson we might end up with Prime Minister Jacob Rees-Mogg instead.

soref, Monday, 3 July 2017 10:26 (nine years ago)

re councils: a lot of bad things are happening with property, inc where I live - where recent 'development' has been a disaster.

But while I think councils have made bad decisions I don't think they are all malicious in the way that quotation describes. I think many Labour councils have just felt battered by debilitating cuts, and unable to make good decisions, and desperate to take any option (inc 'development') that fills a financial hole.

I didn't have much idea of how bad it was till the Tom Crewe essay on local government in the LRB.

the pinefox, Monday, 3 July 2017 10:29 (nine years ago)

You make it sound like they are somehow innocent + oblivious to the fact that social housing tenants are getting lied to and getting one-way tickets out of their homes and London, when they actually know very well that is happening under their schemes.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 10:40 (nine years ago)

Where I lived in Walthamstow there were accusations about the local Labour councillors being slum landlords, corruption, etc. I get the impression that this is pretty common across the country, that local government is full of corrupt scumbags. The party they are in seems to be irrelevant.

Colonel Poo, Monday, 3 July 2017 11:04 (nine years ago)

I remember reading somewhere last year that nearly a quarter of Labour MPs were landlords and many of them with multiple London props on their portfolios. Which is a separate issue really, but fuck these bozos.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 11:12 (nine years ago)

Breaking: @DavidLammy @CatherineWest1 have this morning written a joint letter to @ClaireKober asking her to "pause" HDV plans (1/n)

— Aditya Chakrabortty (@chakrabortty) July 3, 2017

Well at least this might be some good news for once.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 12:09 (nine years ago)

Wow @ that article. Takes no prisoners. Thank god he's around.

Jack-et potato? (jed_), Monday, 3 July 2017 12:12 (nine years ago)

It looks like it might have have actually made a difference as well.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 12:14 (nine years ago)

Lol! Is Keith Flett (mentioned on here the other day) really still going? I don't know if it's fake but there is a twitter acct in his name with "Stakhanovite epistolarian" in his biog.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 12:20 (nine years ago)

chakrabortty's been writing abt the HDV before but i think the shape and dynamic of such things has actually changed since grenfell and also lammy has decided to be seen to be on fire about it

re flett: he's definitely on twitter, i have friends who post abt beer (and beards) and flett is in their larger circle

(don't know if he's still a swuppie since the split in 2013)

mark s, Monday, 3 July 2017 12:23 (nine years ago)

Chakrabortty liveblogging on the Haringey council meeting suggests that "zombie-blairite councillors" is probably way too kind an
epithet for some of these fuckers.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 18:31 (nine years ago)

Councillor Goldberg responds to deputation that an Asian centre (Bangladeshi, by the names) will be made homeless pic.twitter.com/Dd6gkleRAf

— Aditya Chakrabortty (@chakrabortty) July 3, 2017

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 18:38 (nine years ago)

Most heartbreaking moment: After being told they'll be homeless and that there's nowhere for them to go, the Asian centre thanks the council

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 18:39 (nine years ago)

Aditya Chakrabortty‏Verified account @chakrabortty 11m11 minutes ago

After hearing dozens of councillors and locals raise serious questions and objections, Haringey cabinet kick out public.
7 replies . 74 retweets 16 likes
Aditya Chakrabortty‏Verified account @chakrabortty 9m9 minutes ago

In seconds, they vote through the largest privatisation of its kind. Demolition of homes, huge payouts for Lendlease, little accountability
7 replies . 68 retweets 13 likes
Aditya Chakrabortty‏Verified account @chakrabortty 8m8 minutes ago

The LibDems will likely call in the motion, then there will almost certainly be a Judicial Review.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2017 21:10 (nine years ago)

So where is Corbyn/Leadership in this exactly? One of the few criticisms of him that sticks.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2017 21:13 (nine years ago)

HDV voted through, has he even vocally opposed it yet?

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 21:15 (nine years ago)

More needs to be done than mere lip service or polite letters from Lammy to stop this rot.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 21:21 (nine years ago)

There were sickening scenes at that meeting tonight in Chakrabortty's reportage, too many to mention as well.

The gigantic mound of paperwork that tenants were supposed have digested in a couple of days.

The fucking slug-like councillor talking about the poor doors like he was a good honest guy for being so upfront.

and this bit was nice:"After hearing dozens of councillors and locals raise serious questions and objections, Haringey cabinet kick out public."

and this"Another cllr raises point I made today: the council promises right of return but docs show they'll prioritise tenants being moved (out) once"

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 21:40 (nine years ago)

Best wishes to you and yours, cal. This really needs to be jumped on now but I'm not seeing any major news sources talking about it. This fucking country.

Jack-et potato? (jed_), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 02:21 (nine years ago)

Thanks Jed, if she was on her own she would living from foodbanks rn - like many are. As it is we are currently in a financially reduced situation rather than a completely disastrous one. So I can't moan when some have got it much worse, but yeah fuck this government and these apparatchiks of austerity who "are just doing their jobs" fucking over disabled people. Oh yes, there will be gulags for them as well after the big inquest!

calzino, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 08:55 (nine years ago)

Imagine Nick Robinson repeated asking Darling on Today earlier if he was ever going to get his party back. These fucks are losing complete comprehension of reality rn.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 09:05 (nine years ago)

Do these Haringey councillors a) not take seriously the possibility of deselection for next years local elections b) don't care and are determined to force this through come what may?

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:16 (nine years ago)

Haringey councillors now accusing him of outright lying about the Asian Centre.

I'm guessing that Haringey no longer has any local paper with the resources and inclination to cover this story properly?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:28 (nine years ago)

Chakrabortty is getting the ad hominemming of his life from Cllr Joe Goldberg on Twitter rn, and as a bonus JG is complaining about Labour lefties' criticism of him being inherently anti-Semitic.

syzygy stardust (suzy), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:30 (nine years ago)

JG using that tired line that Chakrabortty is commenting from a position of "elite privilege" . Yes we know he is a Guardian journalist you corrupt dickhead.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:40 (nine years ago)

People who are not from a position of "elite privilege" where unceremoniously dumped out of the chamber, so somebody needs to be.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:45 (nine years ago)

How much influence does the leadership have over what local councils do? Serious question.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:49 (nine years ago)

This guy seems... odd?

Indeed and I wrote to you to urge you to take action on anti-semitism (twice) and you never even replied https://t.co/CVhdxhZuZC

— Joe Goldberg (@joedgoldberg) July 3, 2017

Shanty Brunch (stevie), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:49 (nine years ago)

lmao @ twitter avi #48percentnation #Resist

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:53 (nine years ago)

This guy seems... odd?

You are obviously not familiar with this thread: Local councillors

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:55 (nine years ago)

A lot of London Labour councils are just really bad because they've operated for decades with virtually no opposition. They become complacent at best and entirely mendacious at worst, with than veneer of "but we're Labour so we must be the good guys really".

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:57 (nine years ago)

JG using that tired line that Chakrabortty is commenting from a position of "elite privilege" . Yes we know he is a Guardian journalist you corrupt dickhead.

lol, he's attacking him as part of the 'elite' for going to the same state school that i did.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:57 (nine years ago)

A lot of London Labour councils are just really bad because they've operated for decades with virtually no opposition. They become complacent at best and entirely mendacious at worst, with than veneer of "but we're Labour so we must be the good guys really".

That worked out really well for the Labour Party in Scotland after all.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:58 (nine years ago)

"brand strategist"

mark s, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 11:00 (nine years ago)

xpost

A lot of London Labour councils are just really bad because they've operated for decades with virtually no opposition

I was just about to make an almost identical post to Tom D abt Scotland.

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 11:05 (nine years ago)


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