brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

Is this now normal? The opposition leader takes to the streets to force an elected government from office? Have we become South Americans? https://t.co/Oem9dTQnjt

— Daniel Hannan (@DanielJHannan) July 1, 2017

Says the little shitweasel who spent his childhood in Peru.

I wonder who Mark S and Col Poo are talking about...

we're quite likely not talking abt the same person/people and i'm certainly not going to give any hints

Well it cant be the people the good col is thinking of then

Trust me, it. It could be anyone active in music journalism in the UK from 1986 onwards except for Price, Reynolds, Stubbs or me. But I did a deep LOL when one of the Sensibles said he hadn't been relevant since 1997 anyway.

bit unfair on the kulk there, suzy

heh, i meant that about his omission from your list

I don't count Kulk as a music journo of that vintage, because back then he was the Maker's very own Keith Flett.

I dont know who that is

Paul Morley does not appear to have made any public pronouncement on the current Labour leadership.

he's busy APPARENTLY

When Corbyn's NKVD arrest Morley:"b-but I like Autechre.."

"Citizen Morley, did you or did you not write this review of "How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb" by U2?"

Ah, reviews of U2 new albums....

Tried to teach Jezzkilla @jeremycorbyn how to throw up W's for woolwich his deffinately Gang but needs work on his technique 🤣 pic.twitter.com/0l838VLJIS

— THE GRIMEMINISTER (@saskilla) July 1, 2017

I have a soft spot for Woolwich and in the 90's lived there for 2 years, but nah my fingers can't do that shit!

I do it with both hands so people know I'm With the Woolwich.

lol!

A friend is impressed but bemused that the crowd at the Lions game in New Zealand is singing "Oh, Jeremy Corbyn".

What?!??? Rugby Union fans are singing it now?!??!

Unconfirmed reports that Nick Timothy was leading the "Oh, Jeremy Corbyn" chants and was supping from a bottle of Thunderbird red.

http://www.independent.co.uk/Voices/chuka-umunna-s-brexit-corbyn-queens-speech-rebellion-backfired-a7817291.html

Chuka is so dour and cynical. I hate that *sigh* "Look...." thing he does whenever he's asked a question. He always acts like he can't even be bothered.

Pro: he has amazing skin. I want to know his skin care routine.

step one: commission portrait

as he fades into insignificance there will be plenty of time for him to sit for a portrait! Got to admit one of the only things I will credit Chuka with is how he is a shining example of making male pattern baldness look stylish and sexy. Still a total fucking waster tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEVYsmpcbvk

I feel like Chuka hasn't really gotten over the wheels falling off the Blairite bus at the exact point at which he became the anointed one. The very fact he became so in the first place is possibly an indication of poor bench strength but he must be regretting his decision not to stand in 2015.

For a hotly-tipped MP/would be 'big beast' he just doesn't come across as very bright. I don't agree with Stella Creasy on a range of issues but her amendment this week was a real example of how you can have a concrete positive effect even when your wing of the party isn't in charge. Chuka's just came across as opportunistic, self-defeating and inconsistent with his past pronouncements.

"but he must be regretting his decision not to stand in 2015."

Would he have been considered the left leaning candidate in '15, and Corbyn wouldn't have been nominated? 2015 seems like a decade ago.

He's to the right of Andy Burnham, maybe even Cooper, but to the left of Kendall I believe.

*goes to cupboard, dusts off micrometer*

meanwhile, this highly speculative thread asks a pertinent question abt the nature of the DUP's hold over the Tories:

Something’s been bugging me about the Tory / DUP deal. Musings follow: 1/

— Chris Williams (@Chris_A_W) July 2, 2017

also this, mainly bcz i like the insult:

Everyone goes to school, and their teachers went to university so checkmate, judas-pob https://t.co/hNPORbwEWS

— 🌹Josie Long 🌹 (@JosieLong) July 2, 2017

If such a £1bn smoking gun exists then it would need to be something a lot more damaging than who paid for a few adverts.

A friend is impressed but bemused that the crowd at the Lions game in New Zealand is singing "Oh, Jeremy Corbyn".

i watched the game and i'm fairly certain it wasn't "oh jeremy corbyn" - it was "oh, maro itoje"

i think very hard to lay the DUP story out as provably laundering from the outside: if something a bit shady happened it also seems largely kinda covered by anomalies in the rules between NI and the mainland: the DUP did want brexit and NI parties don't have to declare their donors (ftb risk of threat to them given NI history) so why wouldn't brexiters with money channel funds this way, for the DUP to then buy mainland ads? (which apparently they quite expensively did) (i've seen stories quoting quite a lot more than just 70k, closer to half a mill in some versions)

this is NAGL maybe but no more so really than the the billion bung? all's fair in love and elections and confidence and supply blah blah

however if the DUP -- who would have been on the inside -- were threatening not just to "tell all" but to tell it from the inside in the most damaging possible way for the tories? of course it'd be a real go-for-broke threat bcz it wd implicate them extremely badly as well…

anyway the question what hold the DUP had does still seem pertinent to me, and to need better explanation: corbs as PM is as big a fear for either side, which would tend to lessen the hold either side had over the other

to be clear the half a mill is a somewhat mysterious donation not an ad buy: £425,000 from the Constitutional Research Council

anyway i don't know enough abt the rules -- and more importantly the sanctions -- associated with donations and ad-buys in referemdums to judge what leverage this wd give the DUP if senior tories were involved ie if they said "imagine the email trail getting out…" And my guess is embarrassment rather than prison all round.

What does 'pob' mean?

The kids' tv/book character

Haven't heard of that one before!

I don't really agree that Umunna doesn't seem bright. He usually seems quite thoughtful, as an MP, to me.

I don't think I now know what his distinctive or characteristic positions are. He is not massively and consistently hostile to JC.

You must be joking Pinefox. Chuka was openly ripping the piss out of Corbyn on the eve before the referendum on PM. He was having a right chortle with IDS about Corbyn being "our star striker", when he was allegedly there to campaign for Remain.

I see. I didn't see that. It doesn't sound good to me.

However, more recently (eg, since JC's second leadership win) I've tended to hear CU saying very respectful things about JC. With a certain sense that position-taking / maneouvring is going on somehow. But without much sense that CU himself is about to become a leadership contender or anything like that.

I think that CU, separated from the chance of much 'power', has tried to pose as more of a 'thinker'. Tristram Hunt did the same move very briefly - then quit politics.

Then again CU is also a constituency MP and might be doing some good works for the people who elected him, aside from all the higher-level stuff.

That PM appearance by Chuka sort of summed everything that is wrong with him imo. Like thinking having a public laugh with a Tory Leave campaigner about how shit your party leader is when are meant to be campaigning for Remain is quite an ok way to conduct yourself. Then having the gall to join the PLP Right chorus of "Jeremy didn't campaign hard enough and must go".

What's PM?

R4 current affairs show w/ Eddie Mair

Ah cool.

Wimbledon warns supporters against political chants and slogans amid fears of outbreak of Corbynism

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/30/wimbledon-warns-supporters-against-political-chants-slogans/

Centre Court is pretty much the most Tory place in Britain so they must be shook.

Someone should have a word with Jack White, a version with amended lyrics could be Xmas number one!

I expect the Evening Times letters department will be inundated after this....

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/15385013.Bloodshed__drunkenness_and_triumphalism__the_Orange_Order_on_the_streets_of_Scotland/?ref=fbshr