brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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I am enjoying May's review of Brown's first six months
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/columnists/2007/12/theresa-may-mp.html

stet, Saturday, 1 July 2017 09:25 (six years ago) link

those were the days

http://i.imgur.com/u2BHk8i.png

soref, Saturday, 1 July 2017 11:02 (six years ago) link

LOLico call him by his name

mark s, Saturday, 1 July 2017 11:37 (six years ago) link

"Crowds are gathering in Amber Rudd's marginal Hastings to hear Jeremy Corbyn speak."

Might be a good day for Amber to batten up the hatches and binge-watch GLOW or something*.

*kill herself

calzino, Saturday, 1 July 2017 11:38 (six years ago) link

haha some of my #nevercorbyn semi-pals on FB have been muttering darkly abt this event (aged rock crits like myself except unlike me they have moved to the south coast in their grumbly senescence)

they are not the worst people by any means but honestly they shd never talk abt politics

(closer to publication i have half a plan to burn all my bridges by writing a look-at-me-click-on-this-buy-my-book piece abt why so many aged rock-crits are so dumb abt this stuff)

mark s, Saturday, 1 July 2017 11:58 (six years ago) link

I think you really should start that thread about how all Brit music hacks, apart from Wells,Penman and yer good self's politics are fookin' rank. Just go deep cover with a sock if you don't want jeopardise any professional friendships.

calzino, Saturday, 1 July 2017 12:01 (six years ago) link

"fully 40 years after committing to punk rock, mark s finally* pisses some ppl off a bit"

*by design i mean, i assume i've pissed off a ton of ppl by accident down the years

mark s, Saturday, 1 July 2017 12:26 (six years ago) link

I think I know who you mean mark s, I see some of their ramblings on FB as they are friends with a friend from ILX...

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 1 July 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/scG6jez.jpg

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 1 July 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link

I wonder if Jess Phillips is aware Corbyn was never a frontbencher.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Saturday, 1 July 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link

the once and future prime minister

mark s, Saturday, 1 July 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link

(closer to publication i have half a plan to burn all my bridges by writing a look-at-me-click-on-this-buy-my-book piece abt why so many aged rock-crits are so dumb abt this stuff)

Title suggestion: "How Jeremy Corbyn Broke David Quantick's BRANE!!"

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 1 July 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link

naming no names till i'm good and ready

mark s, Saturday, 1 July 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link

I wonder if Jess Phillips is aware Corbyn was never a frontbencher.

there are lots of twitter pundits being annoying by pretending to not understand the difference between a backbencher and a frontbencher voting against the whip, but I do think it's a fair point that there's something silly about defending Jeremy Corbyn by pronouncing that MPs must respect the manifesto they were elected on.

soref, Saturday, 1 July 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link

Is this now normal? The opposition leader takes to the streets to force an elected government from office? Have we become South Americans? https://t.co/Oem9dTQnjt

— Daniel Hannan (@DanielJHannan) July 1, 2017

Says the little shitweasel who spent his childhood in Peru.

nashwan, Saturday, 1 July 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link

I wonder who Mark S and Col Poo are talking about...

Odysseus, Saturday, 1 July 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link

we're quite likely not talking abt the same person/people and i'm certainly not going to give any hints

mark s, Saturday, 1 July 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link

Well it cant be the people the good col is thinking of then

Odysseus, Saturday, 1 July 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link

Trust me, it. It could be anyone active in music journalism in the UK from 1986 onwards except for Price, Reynolds, Stubbs or me. But I did a deep LOL when one of the Sensibles said he hadn't been relevant since 1997 anyway.

syzygy stardust (suzy), Saturday, 1 July 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link

bit unfair on the kulk there, suzy

Odysseus, Saturday, 1 July 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link

heh, i meant that about his omission from your list

Odysseus, Saturday, 1 July 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link

I don't count Kulk as a music journo of that vintage, because back then he was the Maker's very own Keith Flett.

syzygy stardust (suzy), Saturday, 1 July 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link

I dont know who that is

Odysseus, Saturday, 1 July 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link

Paul Morley does not appear to have made any public pronouncement on the current Labour leadership.

the pinefox, Saturday, 1 July 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

he's busy APPARENTLY

mark s, Saturday, 1 July 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link

When Corbyn's NKVD arrest Morley:"b-but I like Autechre.."

calzino, Saturday, 1 July 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link

"Citizen Morley, did you or did you not write this review of "How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb" by U2?"

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Saturday, 1 July 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

Ah, reviews of U2 new albums....

Mark G, Saturday, 1 July 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link

Tried to teach Jezzkilla @jeremycorbyn how to throw up W's for woolwich his deffinately Gang but needs work on his technique 🤣 pic.twitter.com/0l838VLJIS

— THE GRIMEMINISTER (@saskilla) July 1, 2017

calzino, Saturday, 1 July 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link

I have a soft spot for Woolwich and in the 90's lived there for 2 years, but nah my fingers can't do that shit!

calzino, Saturday, 1 July 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link

I do it with both hands so people know I'm With the Woolwich.

Jack-et potato? (jed_), Saturday, 1 July 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

lol!

calzino, Saturday, 1 July 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link

A friend is impressed but bemused that the crowd at the Lions game in New Zealand is singing "Oh, Jeremy Corbyn".

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 1 July 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link

What?!??? Rugby Union fans are singing it now?!??!

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Saturday, 1 July 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link

Unconfirmed reports that Nick Timothy was leading the "Oh, Jeremy Corbyn" chants and was supping from a bottle of Thunderbird red.

calzino, Saturday, 1 July 2017 22:03 (six years ago) link

Chuka is so dour and cynical. I hate that *sigh* "Look...." thing he does whenever he's asked a question. He always acts like he can't even be bothered.

Jack-et potato? (jed_), Saturday, 1 July 2017 23:57 (six years ago) link

Pro: he has amazing skin. I want to know his skin care routine.

Jack-et potato? (jed_), Saturday, 1 July 2017 23:58 (six years ago) link

step one: commission portrait

plax (ico), Sunday, 2 July 2017 09:44 (six years ago) link

as he fades into insignificance there will be plenty of time for him to sit for a portrait! Got to admit one of the only things I will credit Chuka with is how he is a shining example of making male pattern baldness look stylish and sexy. Still a total fucking waster tho.

calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2017 10:21 (six years ago) link

I feel like Chuka hasn't really gotten over the wheels falling off the Blairite bus at the exact point at which he became the anointed one. The very fact he became so in the first place is possibly an indication of poor bench strength but he must be regretting his decision not to stand in 2015.

For a hotly-tipped MP/would be 'big beast' he just doesn't come across as very bright. I don't agree with Stella Creasy on a range of issues but her amendment this week was a real example of how you can have a concrete positive effect even when your wing of the party isn't in charge. Chuka's just came across as opportunistic, self-defeating and inconsistent with his past pronouncements.

Matt DC, Sunday, 2 July 2017 12:10 (six years ago) link

"but he must be regretting his decision not to stand in 2015."

Would he have been considered the left leaning candidate in '15, and Corbyn wouldn't have been nominated? 2015 seems like a decade ago.

calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2017 12:20 (six years ago) link

He's to the right of Andy Burnham, maybe even Cooper, but to the left of Kendall I believe.

Matt DC, Sunday, 2 July 2017 12:22 (six years ago) link

*goes to cupboard, dusts off micrometer*

meanwhile, this highly speculative thread asks a pertinent question abt the nature of the DUP's hold over the Tories:

Something’s been bugging me about the Tory / DUP deal. Musings follow: 1/

— Chris Williams (@Chris_A_W) July 2, 2017

mark s, Sunday, 2 July 2017 12:25 (six years ago) link

also this, mainly bcz i like the insult:

Everyone goes to school, and their teachers went to university so checkmate, judas-pob https://t.co/hNPORbwEWS

— 🌹Josie Long 🌹 (@JosieLong) July 2, 2017

mark s, Sunday, 2 July 2017 12:28 (six years ago) link

If such a £1bn smoking gun exists then it would need to be something a lot more damaging than who paid for a few adverts.

Matt DC, Sunday, 2 July 2017 12:51 (six years ago) link

A friend is impressed but bemused that the crowd at the Lions game in New Zealand is singing "Oh, Jeremy Corbyn".

i watched the game and i'm fairly certain it wasn't "oh jeremy corbyn" - it was "oh, maro itoje"

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 2 July 2017 13:02 (six years ago) link

i think very hard to lay the DUP story out as provably laundering from the outside: if something a bit shady happened it also seems largely kinda covered by anomalies in the rules between NI and the mainland: the DUP did want brexit and NI parties don't have to declare their donors (ftb risk of threat to them given NI history) so why wouldn't brexiters with money channel funds this way, for the DUP to then buy mainland ads? (which apparently they quite expensively did) (i've seen stories quoting quite a lot more than just 70k, closer to half a mill in some versions)

this is NAGL maybe but no more so really than the the billion bung? all's fair in love and elections and confidence and supply blah blah

however if the DUP -- who would have been on the inside -- were threatening not just to "tell all" but to tell it from the inside in the most damaging possible way for the tories? of course it'd be a real go-for-broke threat bcz it wd implicate them extremely badly as well…

anyway the question what hold the DUP had does still seem pertinent to me, and to need better explanation: corbs as PM is as big a fear for either side, which would tend to lessen the hold either side had over the other

mark s, Sunday, 2 July 2017 13:17 (six years ago) link

to be clear the half a mill is a somewhat mysterious donation not an ad buy: £425,000 from the Constitutional Research Council

anyway i don't know enough abt the rules -- and more importantly the sanctions -- associated with donations and ad-buys in referemdums to judge what leverage this wd give the DUP if senior tories were involved ie if they said "imagine the email trail getting out…" And my guess is embarrassment rather than prison all round.

mark s, Sunday, 2 July 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link


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