brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

perhaps it's just that I live in Oxford and occasionally meet a strain of very debating society Tory that loves to demolish anyone not using a word quite right and then deflect all actual points with strawmanning and whataboutery before going to talk to someone who looks more profitable to network with

I know this type. Absolute rotters.

E.g. Rees Mogg telling John Snow that the election wasn't a shambles as a shambles is a butcher's slaughterhouse "I'm surprised you didn't know" - just googled that to remind myself of the details and the Express's headline on it says that "Snow receives a classic Rees Mogg tongue lashing".

Do this enough and then turn round and say 'we're tired of experts'

The strategy of it all is so wearying

Snow should have told Rees Mogg that he is totally ace and then added the big debating society style take-down - and that's an acronym for "a crap effort".

Well it would be just as witty and relevant as Mogg's "tongue lashing"!

E.g. Rees Mogg telling John Snow that the election wasn't a shambles as a shambles is a butcher's slaughterhouse "I'm surprised you didn't know" - just googled that to remind myself of the details and the Express's headline on it says that "Snow receives a classic Rees Mogg tongue lashing".

― Heavy Doors (jed_), Friday, June 30, 2017 11:10 AM (fifty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jesus.

politicians should just start doing that with journos all the time

journo: this is a watershed moment for your government?
pol: no because a watershed is a dividing line that separates draining basins, I'm surprised you don't know that

It's sort of classic cunt behaviour, in that it's verbal pedantry from a party that loves to erode the meaning of words

e.g. if they're going to get specific about 'shambles' why do they get away with 'extremism', 'british values', etc

Tbf that kind of thing can feel delicious, at least temporarily, when done by one's own side.

IIRC, the hero of some Stephen Fry novel is met with a "poppycock!" from some stuck-up establishmentarianist, replies with "no, this is hard shit indeed", and then at the shocked mien of his opponent explains that the latter's invective comes from "pappe kak" ie "soft shit" in Dutch.

That is literally the only thing I remember from that book. Sorry for derail.

delicious poppycock

no you don't understand, poppage is the name of my cock!

delicious

mm-mm-mmm!

stephen fry is dreadful sorry

hi LJ! :D

As I said, sorry for derail.

To get us back on topic, it has come to my attention that Ian Lavery's sons are both donk DJs.

https://soundcloud.com/ianlavery11

https://soundcloud.com/ross-lavery-3

This absolutely enhances what was already a very good rep.

you know what they wanna do with the next Labour manifesto, right?

reverse Psychoactive Substances Act and legalise spice and m-cat again?

"Wimbledon warns supporters against political chants and slogans amid fears of outbreak of Henmanism Corbynism"

me since 10pm june 8th

Politic's is back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (wolf Howl)

— wint (@dril) February 18, 2015

wimbledon crowd surely rooting for chuka

Ed Balls please.

At least when everyone is chanting Corbyn's name at every sporting/musical/public event, it shows we have defeated facism:p

First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the corbyn

I am enjoying May's review of Brown's first six months
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/columnists/2007/12/theresa-may-mp.html

those were the days

http://i.imgur.com/u2BHk8i.png

LOLico call him by his name

"Crowds are gathering in Amber Rudd's marginal Hastings to hear Jeremy Corbyn speak."

Might be a good day for Amber to batten up the hatches and binge-watch GLOW or something*.

*kill herself

haha some of my #nevercorbyn semi-pals on FB have been muttering darkly abt this event (aged rock crits like myself except unlike me they have moved to the south coast in their grumbly senescence)

they are not the worst people by any means but honestly they shd never talk abt politics

(closer to publication i have half a plan to burn all my bridges by writing a look-at-me-click-on-this-buy-my-book piece abt why so many aged rock-crits are so dumb abt this stuff)

I think you really should start that thread about how all Brit music hacks, apart from Wells,Penman and yer good self's politics are fookin' rank. Just go deep cover with a sock if you don't want jeopardise any professional friendships.

"fully 40 years after committing to punk rock, mark s finally* pisses some ppl off a bit"

*by design i mean, i assume i've pissed off a ton of ppl by accident down the years

I think I know who you mean mark s, I see some of their ramblings on FB as they are friends with a friend from ILX...

http://i.imgur.com/scG6jez.jpg

I wonder if Jess Phillips is aware Corbyn was never a frontbencher.

the once and future prime minister

(closer to publication i have half a plan to burn all my bridges by writing a look-at-me-click-on-this-buy-my-book piece abt why so many aged rock-crits are so dumb abt this stuff)

Title suggestion: "How Jeremy Corbyn Broke David Quantick's BRANE!!"

naming no names till i'm good and ready

I wonder if Jess Phillips is aware Corbyn was never a frontbencher.

there are lots of twitter pundits being annoying by pretending to not understand the difference between a backbencher and a frontbencher voting against the whip, but I do think it's a fair point that there's something silly about defending Jeremy Corbyn by pronouncing that MPs must respect the manifesto they were elected on.

Is this now normal? The opposition leader takes to the streets to force an elected government from office? Have we become South Americans? https://t.co/Oem9dTQnjt

— Daniel Hannan (@DanielJHannan) July 1, 2017

Says the little shitweasel who spent his childhood in Peru.

I wonder who Mark S and Col Poo are talking about...

we're quite likely not talking abt the same person/people and i'm certainly not going to give any hints

Well it cant be the people the good col is thinking of then

Trust me, it. It could be anyone active in music journalism in the UK from 1986 onwards except for Price, Reynolds, Stubbs or me. But I did a deep LOL when one of the Sensibles said he hadn't been relevant since 1997 anyway.

bit unfair on the kulk there, suzy

heh, i meant that about his omission from your list

I don't count Kulk as a music journo of that vintage, because back then he was the Maker's very own Keith Flett.

I dont know who that is

Paul Morley does not appear to have made any public pronouncement on the current Labour leadership.