Fire at Grenfell Tower in London

This judge fella seems like a terrible old Tory bastard, unsurprisingly.

(no argument the single decision highlighted by the press was a bad one though, and i accept accusations of terrible old tory bastard-dom aren't helped by him looking like john major's lanky stunt double)

He sounds like an absolute cunt who is a violent struggle session short of knowing what a "decent human being" is. But at least he has admitted that it is going to be one of them type of inquiries that will only please the guilty parties and not the victims.

Yes, that was almost funny; "don't get yer hopes up."

2010/11: 106,000 preventative inspections by local authority health & safety inspectors; 2015/16: 3850 preventative inspections. Local authority health & safety preventative inspections down 96%

Looking at tomorrow's @thetimes front page, suddenly the Council's bizarre secrecy around their meeting today makes more sense pic.twitter.com/RbJU6Faxwh

— Felix Renicks (@ffffelix) June 29, 2017

Fielding Mellish? What Woody Allen film is that again?

Lol! Bananas

They will be shitting it about possibly getting arrested by 2046.

I haven't actually watched the Tsherassky as a whole for a while but I did then and holy fucking shit, it's amazing.

Eric H of this parish calls it one of the greatest horror movies ever made fwiw (apologies to Eric if I have that wrong)

Eh wrong thread obviously. Sorry. It's still a horror show.

Yes, appropriate..

Fielding Mellish? What Woody Allen film is that again?

― weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, June 29, 2017 11:27 PM

Could have sworn I read it on ILX but I can't find the link after a very rudimentary search - Rock Fielding-Mellen is the son of Amanda Fielding, Britain's greatest exponent of self-trepanation and who stood for parliament twice on the ticket of making trepanation a cornerstone of the NHS. His father was Joey Mellen, another trepanation exponent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Feilding
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Mellen

you need a hole in the head like you need a hole in the head: the art and science of self-trepannation

^^^this is the thread

(the opinion of ppl close to the family seems to be that the mum is great and doesn't understand how her son turned out this badly, unless it's perhaps bcz he hasn't trepanned himself)

Ta, knew I'd read it somewhere.

That's NP-B quit now

And RF-M.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/03/britain-power-contempt-grenfell-labour-haringey-social-housing?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

However easy it is for pundits to conflate today’s Labour party with Jeremy Corbyn, to do so ignores the daily experience of people under many Labour councils that are his ideological opposite. Such as the zombie Blairites who run Haringey, and who bear as much resemblance to Corbyn’s Labour as Jive Bunny does to death metal.

Great angry piece from Chakrabortty that somebody should post to Mayor Khan, not that he'd gaf.

"The Heygate estate in Southwark: ‘nearly 1,200 social homes bulldozed, just 82 replacements built’. Photograph: London SE1 Community Website"

David Lammy is the MP for all of Haringey, right?

think catherine west (hornsey and wood green) may be MP for some of it

Yes, when I lived there Lynne Featherstone was the local MP and that was Hornsey & Wood Green.

Speaking at the 5th June Bruce Grove Residents Network meeting David Lammy responded to a question about gentrification by saying that he doesn't see evidence of it in Tottenham and admitted that he would happily 'take a bit of it' for the constituency. It was important the area got 'a bit of the cake' of economic growth in order to bring jobs, money and opportunities for people. Adding that regeneration must mean jobs locally.

yeah Lammy, turfing people out of their homes creates loads of new "opportunities" for people, like let's go live in housing association dump 80 miles away from my family ...yay!

Yes that is in fact exactly what he said.

Well of course he didn't say that, they never do say that. Instead they use the usual doublespeak when referring to gentrification schemes. Not that it makes any difference to those who are uprooted and fucked off for these oh so affordable housing schemes.

It's the difference between gentrification meaning a few restaurants and coffee shops popping up and gentrification as deliberate mass displacement.

yeah but as soon as you start saying petite gentrification - not so bad, it feels like the Blairite style legitimising of something that is like a disease.

mind you, when I say the language of gentrification is often cloaked in doublespeak. "Decanting" is a commonly used term on London regen schemes, which is quite blatantly ruthless.

you really need to let the class war breathe i find

Well maybe you'd have a similar pov if you lived in social housing for 90% of tr life. And .. class war! really?

it was a decanter joke

i got it

it was bad but i got it

Oh I'm very sorry TH. Totally took it as jibe

I just open opened a nice Malbec earlier as well.

the sophistication of my jokes can be deceptive on the palate. you think they're bad, but actually the hedz know what's up

'Decanting' has been in the social housing lexicon for 20 years (that I know of).

sorry for the humour bypass again. I'm having a shit day. The missus came back from a PIP appeal earlier, where she has been turned down and is in absolute pieces. I'm angry and agitated, and started drinking too early - bad combination of events.

Yes since at least 91 when I started. Xp re decanting

I wonder what the backhand deal will be on the profits the developer makes on their 50%

Sorry to hear that calzino. Shit news.

jesus that sucks calz

aw fuck calzino - so sorry

Sorry to hear that, man.

as this thread shows - things can always be much much worse. To win one of these tribunals you have to prove that the (non-medically trained) ATOS person didn't assess you correctly on the day - regardless of if you are currently very ill and struggling to stand up. You'd think that would be a piece of piss, but apparently it isn't for many people with degenerative conditions.

That's rough, Calzino, sorry.

Yes since at least 91 when I started. Xp re decanting

Before that, when my granny's house was getting done up, she was 'decanted' for a few months - that was the 80s, possibly the 70s.

(xp) I know someone who is stuck in this shitty process too, calz, it's fucking disgraceful.

Tell your friend to get a decent advocate if they can, the one my partner got was ineffective, rude and totally callous. When you have just gone through a very dehumanising process and they coldly say: "you've lost, your taxi will be here in 5 minutes, so set off now" it isn't good.

Sorry for bringing this to this thread, it is quite trivial in comparison to 100's burning to death in their homes needlessly.

Sorry to hear Calzino. We should really gulag these Tories.

Compilation of stories of the night here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/grenfell_voices was pretty hard to read

just finished reading it from top to bottom, am badly shaken. as a piece of publishing, that was extremely well done, though.

Devastating.