The stars turn: the TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread

Strong umbilical cord vibes from that bubble spew too.
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damn that locust was sick. It's so awesome to see Lynch get a fat budget and do some worthy CGI

i loved the insane mix of that locust frog, which was so incredibly realistic, and the stop motion of the egg cracking.

seriously CRINGED

how did he even make that? granted I wonder the same thing about the eraserhead baby to this day.

He bred them in his basement

Eraserhead baby is rumored (possibly more than rumored) to be at least partly organic. In case you needed it to be more horrifying than it already was.

Like I'm pretty sure it's built around an actual animal head.

According to Lynch on Lynch, Kubrick write to Lynch right after seeing Eraserhead demanding to keep how he had made it.

i heard something about horse fetus once. or sheep fetus.

Relatedly, I just learned recently that the Creep in Creepshow was an actual articulated skeleton. Which is Creep-y.

i've always heard it was at least based off of some type of livestock fetus.

It's a goat foetus.

i loved the insane mix of that locust frog, which was so incredibly realistic, and the stop motion of the egg cracking.

All through it, the combination of DIY effects (all the superimpositions) and sleek slick digital stuff is great. He's open to trying all kinds of things, but he also really loves those early experimental film tricks, anything that messes with the picture or sound. And all of those tricks are still effective.

Like just shaking the frame and making spooky noises is still really actually creepy if you do it right

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— Twin Peaks 🚬 (@ThatsOurWaldo) June 29, 2017

people have hit on the idea that the experiment (the glass box monster in episode 1) ripped sam's & tracey's heads off looking for the same sort of gold orb that came out of dougie's head in the waiting room

oh wait, did that gold orb happen in the original? why don't I remember that?

seems most of us forgot about that moment. clues are bloody everywhere!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitite

For a time it was believed that the desert sand had simply melted from the direct radiant thermal energy of the fireball and was not particularly dangerous. Thus it was marketed as suitable for use in jewelry in 1945.

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And this scene from Missing Pieces seems key:

http://www.davidlynch.it/twin-peaks-the-secrets-of-the-room-above-the-convenience-store/

Oh well, those links are the man from another place, Philip Gerard and Dougie all wearing the Ring.

so very much in that piece, but this jumps out immediately:

FIRST WOODSMAN
(subtitled)
We have descended from pure air.

The bit later on where it quotes from Newton's translation of Tabula Smaragdina may turn out to be key:

“It ascends from the earth to the heaven and again it descends to the earth and receives the force of things superior and inferior.”

This is the New Mexico sand at Ground Zero, transmuted to Trinitite and serving as the tabletop in the room above the convenience Store (which the Ring is cut out of).

nice detective work! good job there's two weeks to dig into this episode

some fascinating detective work but you find "As above so below" in so many many things not even in esoteric traditions is in in plain exoteric Christianity not sure why they picked a 17th century Isaac Newton translated alchemical work but ok

Demons, angels, alchemy, Native American myths, the Popol Vuh … So many irons in the fire, right?

eh looking through this:

http://subliminalsynchrosphere.blogspot.it/2012/10/twin-peaks-under-sycamore-tree_9.html

not sure i condone this stuff tbh. seems like just connecting symbols willy nilly w no knowledge of the traditions they are taken from. someone "researches" "Native American religion" by looking at wikipedia pages for a few days and if anything shows up they use it. they flip the tree of life upside down and call it the three of death, ridiculous. the Egyptian stuff is interesting but again really stretching things to make a point.

i dont think Lynch plans this stuff out to this degree. he is def aware of these mystical traditions but it seems obvious he is generating his own mythology through this show. but yeah people gonna connect dots til the cows come home.

excuse me if i seems like i am ruining anyone's fun. i spent some time yesterday arguing w someone who told me Mulholland Drive wasn't cryptic and is easy to understand. i think a lot of people think a work either needs to be "understandable" and "make sense" (have some pre-determined course, a predestination) or it is just made up and thus meaningless. it undersells the creative process for the fact of pretending the mythology is real or that the tightness of the narrative makes it more real. i think there is meaning in making things up, in creating a la carte, and this is in fact most of Lynch's creative process, many are entirely missing the point.

Lynch might not but this pick n mix appropriation of esoteric arcana is absolutely how mark frost works

make sense of it

The creation of meaning is a two-way street; I'm not that interested in the codebreaking side of this but I don't see how referencing religious texts is that different to drawing connections to avant-garde films lynch almost certainly hasn't seen

Saw this link in the story Aldo linked: https://subliminalsynchrosphere.blogspot.nl/2017/04/twin-peaks-under-sycamore-tree-redux.html

Holy shit. I wonder if that guy is even glad it's back, because that will eat up another couple of years to fill his blog with

xxxp with Adam :)

yeah people seem to forget that Mark Frost is a big part of this and esoteric historical, mystical/religious texts are things the dude is obviously fascinated with and probably more relevant than Pixies album covers and Powers of 10 tbh

i just dont see how an Isaac Newton alchemy text is any more relevant than the Bible, esp considering he directly references classical Biblical imagery w Laura and the angel in FWWM. seems like an attempt to find something obsure and elevate it.

Pixies was circa the same era, someone upthread pointed out a 4AD guy worked w Lynch. very relevant.

Powers Of Ten? you don't think that's relevant at all to the slow zoom of atomic blast? like Lynch never saw that but he painstakingly went through a 17th century alchemy pamphlet

Again, Mark Frost. And gold and alchemy seem way relevant! Also the atomic blast was way more Kubrick/2001 and Tree of Life than Powers of Ten.

it doesn't particularly matter what lynch saw, fwiw I think there's a good chance he didn't do either of those things (although again, if the alchemy text is an influence it'll be from frost, you know the dude who wrote this)

Xp!

Side note: I read that Lynch was an admirer of Malick but that Tree of Life wasn't his "cup of tea". Hard to not see it in that sequence though.

• "albert, we're headed for the black hills of south dakota" v white sands new mexico
• "fire walk with me" v "this is the water"

gordon even mentions the black hills while standing in front of the white sands bomb photo in his office

what if Lynch unfortunately really loved The Fountain

It's a mutual admiration. Malick's KNIGHT OF CUPS contains the audio of Major Briggs' description of his dream to Bobby, playing over shots of L.A.

oh shit, yeah, that kinda did my head in when that popped up

That was so random lol

I like The Fountain :/

maybe it was Fantasia

Not that it wasn't necessarily chosen because he admires the monologue, but the bit in Knight of Cups is a Biosphere track, no?

Ohhh that makes so much more sense!

I think there's a big difference between Lynch's probable ancient esoterica and to avant garde film (since he occasionally is an avant garde film director)! I'd be shocked if he hasn't seen every movie mentioned upthread. Begotten is the most obscure one, it seems to me, but even that was the subject of a lot of discussion among Movie People in the 90s, iirc.

probable exposure that is

it's gotta be a little hard being Mark Frost