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If he's been shot because he looks Asian and/acting suspiciously/running away this could ramp things up to a scary extent.

this is very unlikely to be the case.

― N_RQ, Friday, 22 July 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

Oh really?

― Huey (Huey), Friday, 22 July 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

I hope you're right/wish I had your faith. Past experience of security forces behaviour in Northern Ireland/Iraq etc (there's a long list) suggest it's all too possibly the case.

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― frankiemachine, Friday, 22 July 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

Shooting at a guy that might be carrying explosives sounds like a pretty risky thing to me, especially with lots of other people around.

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 22 July 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

judging by the accounts of the indident, i think it was pretty unlikely that he was going to miss. sounds like point-blank range to me.

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 22 July 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

Also this:

they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him.

"I saw the gun being fired five times into the guy - he's dead.

doesn't inspire confidence. It's hard to see how the guy was posing a serious threat at the time he was shot based on that description.

― frankiemachine, Friday, 22 July 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

Maybe he got shot in the face.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 22 July 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

Maybe they could see he had a bomb. They've got orders to shoot to kill

― beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 July 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

perhaps we should await further news before we accuse the police of woaful incompetence

― Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 22 July 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

Ste OTM

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 22 July 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps he was about to detonate any bomb he had on him?

― Huey (Huey), Friday, 22 July 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

It's confirmed, the geezer's dead, whoever he was and whatever he was up to

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 22 July 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

for some reason i'm fairly confident about this being the right guy.

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 22 July 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

Now they'll never get the chance to push him down the stairs.

― Huey (Huey), Friday, 22 July 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)

I really like the way Whitby responds when asked if the guy is dead

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 22 July 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)

Passenger told BBC News: "The tube pulled into the station and we were sitting there, you know, as you do, ... "

― Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 22 July 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

MORRIS: There's growing evidence this evening that suspects held in police cells are being eaten by police. This report from Ted Maul has that story.

MAUL: Four men vanish overnight from a Reading police cell. The next detainee complains of a drain blocked with caked blood and pieces of fat on his floor. A drunk man in Cheltham is banged up for the night and has his arm punched full of holes. He says the police tried to fill his arm with garlic. Just part of an increasingly muscular body of evidence that, say activists, prove suspect eating is on the increase, and that the increase is getting rapid. The best evidence of all is this - a 'Bow Street Bastard', a special truncheon used for beating suspects which tears out cubes of flesh small enough to fry. Activist Harkon Peddy says this is just one piece of evidence of suspect eating from a huge list in his head.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

I beleive standard practice for suicide bombers is a head shot, unless they have on an Algernon P Razzamatazz hat full of explosives.

It does inspire confidence, I had no idea we had police trained to do that kind of thing. I would have imagined them bumbling in a Will Hay-like fashion.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

wow, they're actually serious about cracking down on fare evaders

(boom-tsh)

― Seuss, Friday, 22 July 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

is victoria line closed just between victoria and brixton

― charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

I wasn't accusing the police of incompetence. I was just hoping they had very good cause. If the "bomb" turn out to be someone's groceries the fallout in race relations terms could be horrendous. I have sympathy with the police, who may have to make snap decisions when they may have reasonable cause to think both their and bystander's lives may be at risk. But the security forces track record in this area is spotty at best - people shot for carrying water pistols, table legs that allegedly looked like guns etc. It's reasonable to be concerned.

― frankiemachine, Friday, 22 July 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

News 24 have just spectacularly cocked up w/r/t that andrew dude they've just interviewed

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

table legs that look like guns that people refuse to put down when asked in what is obviously a 'JDI' type situation... the police were wrong there, on balance, but they don't often shoot people *totally at random*.

tissp -- how?

― N_Rq, Friday, 22 July 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

They filmed him giving out his name and phone number to journalists--they realised half way through the number and killed the sound

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

At least it was only the sound they killed

(boom-tsh)

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe this happened. I didn't find out about it until yesterday evening and was slightly puzzled by a message to the Clientele mailing list. This as unreal as The Secret Agent. It would be as funny as the book if it were not real. Now it's just puzzling and sad.

― youn, Friday, 22 July 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

what a strange day. security alerts *everywhere*. now one at canary wharf.

― N_RQ, Friday, 22 July 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

now one at canary wharf

"there's a man in there. We think he might be an Editor. He's got his hands on a newspaper, and he's willing to use it!"

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 22 July 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

the word i'm getting is:

stockwell dude had no bomb on him, was shot getting on northern line
BUT he had dumped bomb on victoria line train, so the police weren't shooting a random.

harrow road in maida vale is on lockdown.

― N_RQ, Friday, 22 July 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

Kicking off at Harrow road now.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 22 July 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

what's the dealiyo-yo?

― N_RQ, Friday, 22 July 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

"666 new answers"!!!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 22 July 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

Londoners should be very proud of a police force who are striving to protect you all.

― Lara (Lara), Friday, 22 July 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

Where are you getting your word, N-RQ? The street? Did you put a coin in a pretend blind man's cup?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 22 July 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

my girlfriend, i guess she must have the tv on.

― N_RQ, Friday, 22 July 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

Oh, right.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 22 July 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

haha, just kidding -- i'm actually a high-ranking mi5 officer.

― N_RQ, Friday, 22 July 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

http://media.mth.net/jimmy_fr/v3/images/series/mi5/perso_105_105/tom.jpg

― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Friday, 22 July 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

you got the right idea there!

― N_RQ, Friday, 22 July 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

they've put out cctv pix of 'the four', one in brix in a 'new york' hoody, one in westbourne grove area...

― N_RQ, Friday, 22 July 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41333000/jpg/_41333025_suspect_four_203x152.jpg

― beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 July 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

after 9/11 i remember seeing 'the cable guy':

"Oh my God! Oh my God! My twin brother has been shot! I think it was an Asian gang or something... There was this guy, he looked Asian... and he was speaking another language, I'm pretty sure it was... Asian."

― N_RQ, Friday, 22 July 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

Warren Street:
http://img311.imageshack.us/img311/5390/suspect18iq.jpg

Oval:
http://img311.imageshack.us/img311/7223/suspect20pu.jpg

Nubmer 26 bus:
http://img311.imageshack.us/img311/1387/suspect32bm.jpg

Westbourne Grove:
http://img311.imageshack.us/img311/5791/suspect41yw.jpg

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 22 July 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

is the stockwell guy one of the four?

― N_RQ, Friday, 22 July 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Could someone put that first picture in the picture of Lee Harvey Oswald playing in a band, pls.

― Jimmy Mod Is Sick of Being The Best At Everything (ModJ), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

http://members.cox.net/billz3bub/lhoswald.jpg

This one, I mean.

― Jimmy Mod Is Sick of Being The Best At Everything (ModJ), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Zero tolerance for fare dodgers? He did jump the barrier, after all.

― Alex M (Alex M), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Apparently Birmingham Moor Street and Birmingham Snow Hill stations have been evacuated, and a friend of mine has seen lots of police cars heading into the city. Theres nothing hit the news wires yet so i dont know if its anything to worry about.

― dmun drive-in (dmun), Friday, 22 July 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

PA SNAP PA
A man has been arrested at Snow Hill station in Birmingham under anti-terror legislation and two suitcases are being dealt with by explosives officers, British Transport Police said tonight.
end

― Alex M (Alex M), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4708373.stm

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 22 July 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

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