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Lamb wasn't on the plane that crashed - he called those cops and told them to kick Keith off the plane, but he wasn't there himself.

― The Yellow Kid (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 6 October 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Bummer.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Lamb was on the pre-season 3 panel with the regular cast (minus Wallace) at Comic Con, which was where I made out w/ KB backstage. So yes: Alive.

― c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 6 October 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

which was where I made out w/ KB backstage

LIES!

― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

that was the grossest post-coital scene ever.

it was not particularly good, but season openers are hard. and college just doesn't work as well as high school as allegory-for-life.

and it's true, it didn't look or feel noir-y enough. the tone was way too sunny for most of it. also, I hate Mac. am I supposed to like Mac? that comment she made about her roommate having a tip jar + being mean to her perfectly nice adoptive parents because they don't have money=she sucks.

I'm hoping this I-don't-give-a-shit-about-anything vibe Veronica's giving off is going to crumple soon, but I don't want it to be this Piz guy who makes it happen.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Saturday, 7 October 2006 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link

LIES!

The backstage part was true!

― c('°c) (Leee), Monday, 9 October 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Twisty good episode!

― c('°c) (Leee), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

the twistiness was nice. and stupid Piz wasn't in it, so bonus. I'm still not loving it, but I'm giving it till midseason to get riveting again.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Much better episode. I'm back on board.

Also, redheaded sorority chick is hot.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

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I'm hoping this I-don't-give-a-shit-about-anything vibe Veronica's giving off is going to crumple soon
well, didn't have to wait too long.

The Stanford Experiment story was nicely done, but it felt forced a bit.

And am i the only one who doesn't care much for Keith story so far?

The credits started too soon, and new version of the song sucks. Actually i liked till the very last bit where it kinda ruins the whole thing for you.

― scnnr drkly (scnnr drkly), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Veronica's second sorority ensemble (or at least the skirt) - yowzahs.

― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

The fake-drunk Veronica dance was spectacular! And, "a vagina monologue, perhaps?", hahaha.

Also, I love the Battlestar Galactica references.

― Hanna (Hanna), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

The 70s had the Hustle. The 80s, the Moonwalk. We have the faux lesbian dance.

― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I was a bit irritated at the Mac-and-roomie scene where Mac told her to stay. It was all so stupidly quick, raped-girl was really weepy and suppressed by her family and, well, raped, and then Mac just went "stay, I got your back", and raped girl was just like oh ok then.

― Hanna (Hanna), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Veronica-blames-herself for that was kind of lame. The audio clearly didn't make it sound like anything was amiss, and if I walk into a room with the sexing going on, I'm not turning on the lights for an ID check or anything.

― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 23:14 (seventeen years ago) link

For the first half of the ep, I was thinking I liked it better when it was in Buffy Season 2.

Then, it got better. Although I kinda of hate guilty Veronica.

― J (Jay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 00:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Veronica should've sequestered herself in her own room and posted to the internets about it.

― c('°c) (Leee), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Despite a few missteps, this episode was pretty good. But I'm *totally* pissed that Weevil didn't get to stay on as a jr. investigator.

― J (Jay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 00:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but Weevil having janitor's keys obviously will be a crucial plot point.

I don't know, this story arc just seems so much more a trifle than the previous seasons. The major characters are barely involved at all. The first season's plot was so epic by comparison.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 04:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm already a little sick of the "those crazy feminists!" portrayal of the women's group on campus. They all talked like hippies from some production of Hair.

― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I knew a bunch of girls like that at Cal, though.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Another rape and Logan doesn't seem to have an alibi again. I know it's too early to start guessing, but half the fun is turning out to be spectacularly wrong.

― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Ed Begley, Jr. is the rapist! I'm sure of it!

Good episode. I know the first major mystery seems a bit downplayed, but they're fighting to get new viewers. I like the mysterys-of-the-week.

― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

But this MOW was pretty paltry. Oh noes, lost playbook means no scholarship for big guy about whom I don't care.

― c('°c) (Leee), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, so, at first I was annoyed because there doesn't seem to be as big a mystery this season, as you've all discussed. But I think introducing some huge mystery in the first episode can cause some pacing problems. It's hard to spread something out for so long, if it's not a really HUGE DEAL -- which is why I think Season Two had so much trouble in the middle. So, yeah, it's ok. I liked Weevil in this episode.

― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, she's only been in college for about three days now, let her settle in before you call for her head on some Buffy-meets-Colombo-or-else-it's-fatwa-time shit.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Weevil seems like shitty life has humbled him a lot.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Shit; I was watching the Mets and I missed this ep. Now I have to remember how to make bittorrent work.

― Pork Cheops (willpie), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:51 (seventeen years ago) link

can we trade Piz for Trish?

― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 19 October 2006 01:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i am totally on board w/ this season so far. i was also hoping for a lot more "Weevil & Mars Invetigates", but I can see the benefit to having him on campus plot-wise. the portrayal of college mostly rings true for me, i have to say.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope that the dorky RA isn't the rapist, because that would be a really boring reveal. Ed Begley Jr. can't be the rapist; people would notice the dean cruising dorm parties.

This episode was alright. The use of "Hold On Hold On" made me happy, and Veronica's complete hatred of painter-stalker guy cracked me up. Her sudden realization that tracing Logan's car was a mistake was highly lame, though.

― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Thursday, 19 October 2006 05:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Weevil's investigative career might not be over, Veronica doesn't work there anymore either and it doesn't stop her.

― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 19 October 2006 12:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Logan has turned into Ned Nickerson.

― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Thursday, 19 October 2006 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Dorky RA won't be the rapist because he's already been fingered as a suspect.

Weevil, Junior ~~Veronica Mars~~ Detective was awesome and so sad to see it end (presumably) so soon.

― c('°c) (Leee), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Weevil got fat in the big house.

― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 19 October 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't get over how buff Logan is now! He's not even that cute anymore, I miss skinny Logan.

I kind of hated the Logan/Veronica business in this episode, right up until the final scenes in the library, and then I gave in to the sentimental romance and got all teary-eyed.

Love that Weevil is back, and yeah I think they could have let him be mini-detective for at least a couple of episodes...

― Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 19 October 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

all the dudes on this show got weirdly puffy in the offseason. I was really sad they nipped the weevil/keith as partners storyline so immediately in the bud. it was my favorite thing to happen so far this season.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm already a little sick of the "those crazy feminists!" portrayal of the women's group on campus. They all talked like hippies from some production of Hair.

I know, right? this show has weird gender politics. I used to chalk it up to the noir thing, but it hasn't even been that noir this season.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't realize it at the time, but this is suck a common tv trope. Lots of male writers scarred by freshman orientation experiences?

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Doesn't seem that odd to me given that the feminists are upset by a wave of rapes on campus, many of which are happening to their friends. You should be more upset about the horrible bald caps that the makeup dept uses.

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think the existence of feminists on campus is odd, obviously, just the way the show played them as slightly ridiculous.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Based on how just nearly every presence on the show is characterized (good/bad Logman, sorority = bad no wait they're cool people actually, yeah journalists rawk wait they're cliquey too omg), I wouldn't be surprised if one of the feminists gets fleshed out to break out of the Shrill & Humorless mode.

― c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Nice shoes, you change your major to womens' studies?

― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 02:02 (seventeen years ago) link

oh my god, is there nowhere I can be safe from that fucker Logan from the Gilmore Girls?

what the fuck kind of feminists don't want to know who's actually responsible for a rape. absurd strawman feminists, that's who.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 02:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not really enjoying Tortured Logan episodes. And having this as a Veronica/Logan two-hander ain't gonna work.

― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 02:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Not enough Wallace.

― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 26 October 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, it's just mean to have him show up for .2 seconds.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 26 October 2006 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link

More Wallace, more Weevil, Logan should go on a European trip to find himself.

― J (Jay), Thursday, 26 October 2006 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link

So what did you think? I loved that we got a lot of Weevil, and I hated Veronica for pinning him as the robber. Mystery of the week was good as well, the most complex one so far this season I think. And hahaha Logan & Veronica as White Stripes!

― Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 2 November 2006 00:27 (seventeen years ago) link

agree. back to back good episodes have me encouraged that it hasn't been ruined/buried by too many college cliches and Ed Beagley.

― Jimmy_tango (Jimmy_tango), Thursday, 2 November 2006 01:31 (seventeen years ago) link

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