Fire at Grenfell Tower in London

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Sorry if this has already been discussed, but it looks like Reynobond PE was used in the cladding rather than Reynobond FR - where FR stands for fire-resistant. It just kind of amazes me that there even exists a cheaper alternate that is somewhat flammable. "I couldn't stretch to the Audi A6, so I bought the model they make that comes without brakes or airbags." The idea being that you don't use it in buildings taller than the fire service can easily get to. FFS.

Michael Jones, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:49 (nine years ago)

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cast your vote for fully automated gay space luxury communism (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 June 2017 13:51 (nine years ago)

The idea being that you don't use it in buildings taller than the fire service can easily get to. FFS

The example I heard was you use it in shop fronts and places like petrol stations. Because those burning is clearly not a concern

stet, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:56 (nine years ago)

This is obviously historic, but fuck Rees-Mogg anyway. Can't bear this "he's such a retro ledge; look at his insta i luv him" thing that has been springing up around him http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-safety-standards-workers-rights-jacob-rees-mogg-a7459336.html

stet, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:58 (nine years ago)

Can't bear this "he's such a retro ledge; look at his insta i luv him" thing that has been springing up around him

wait is this really a thing? ffs what is wrong with people

cast your vote for fully automated gay space luxury communism (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 June 2017 14:03 (nine years ago)

may be a niche thing w/i london media, i seriously doubt anywhere beyond that

mark s, Friday, 16 June 2017 14:11 (nine years ago)

People like Owen Jones and Mhairi Black have talked with an apparently genuine sense of fondness about JR-M. Either he's exceptionally good at public school social cues and making people feel at home in person, or he has the sort of genial magnanimity and friendliness with political opponents that comes from having being brought up in such a rarified stratum of society that you can afford to, because you genuinely don't understand why other people consider the stakes so high. I'm guessing he isn't very bright and generally behaves like someone's loveably dotty old aunt who everyone loves until they suddenly say something reprehensible.

Matt DC, Friday, 16 June 2017 14:12 (nine years ago)

on hignfy one time victoria coren said she fancied him

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 June 2017 14:16 (nine years ago)

Well, nerds are her fetish so...

syzygy stardust (suzy), Friday, 16 June 2017 14:17 (nine years ago)

also there is no transitional demand more vital to the revolution than "cancel hignfy"

mark s, Friday, 16 June 2017 14:18 (nine years ago)

🤝

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 June 2017 14:19 (nine years ago)

sounds like we need a 'dry, musty sex with jacob rees-mogg: y/n' thraed

cast your vote for fully automated gay space luxury communism (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 June 2017 14:21 (nine years ago)

the guy's got like eight kids though so maybe he is a top-flight fuck-machine

cast your vote for fully automated gay space luxury communism (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 June 2017 14:22 (nine years ago)

Rees-Mogg likes to attend the Tridentine Mass when available: "We're very lucky if we get it in Somerset once a month. The more you go the more you will find that it is a good thing to go to. You get some time to think and it's not all noisy – and there's no risk of guitars. I think Mass can be too noisy and guitars should be banned."

Matt DC, Friday, 16 June 2017 14:23 (nine years ago)

hawt

cast your vote for fully automated gay space luxury communism (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 June 2017 14:24 (nine years ago)

You get some time to think and it's not all noisy – and there's no risk of guitars.

New board description for ILM.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 16 June 2017 14:29 (nine years ago)

in 20 years time we're going to learn that mogg's continued presence in public life was the one hurdle the May-DUP negotiations failed to clear

mark s, Friday, 16 June 2017 14:32 (nine years ago)

It's going to be a nightmare unpicking the contractual stuff around the tower improvement project: design and build, subcontractual arrangements, compliance with regs at sign off. How many parties knew that the non-fr panels were being installed and didn't think, from a potential fire safety point of view, "excuse me I'm not sure this is a good idea ". All parties have a duty to h&s under the cdm regs.

wtev, Friday, 16 June 2017 14:44 (nine years ago)

And I think that contractual unravelling, with loads of legals making a mint, will be enough diversion to cover for the more senior people who should be in the frame.

wtev, Friday, 16 June 2017 14:46 (nine years ago)

d-notice thing is bollocks

stet, Friday, 16 June 2017 15:04 (nine years ago)

The TMO have been making good use of their time today, not by managing rehousing, but by hand delivering letters dated Wednesday to local residents warning about anti social behaviour - ball games - according to the graun.

wtev, Friday, 16 June 2017 15:13 (nine years ago)

they're lucky they don't get those letters shoved up their arse

stet, Friday, 16 June 2017 15:20 (nine years ago)

re "enough diversion to cover for the more senior people who should be in the frame": i think the pressure point from here on in will not so much be the results of this inquiry and who's to blame -- tho i'm totally happy with david lammy agitating as he is, that senior councillors shd end up in jail -- than during the upcoming process of making sure such estates are safe in every city and town in the entire country

= active residents committees availing themselves of informed expertise and legal advice and refusing to be fobbed off with obfuscation and opacity in council and city contract-making

mark s, Friday, 16 June 2017 15:26 (nine years ago)

Someone probably said you'd better not get those letters out today with all that's going on, they can wait till Friday. But make sure they're out by then, this ball games issue needs dealing with.

Should I change the date on the letter?

No it will be alright. Don't be printing all that lot again.

wtev, Friday, 16 June 2017 15:27 (nine years ago)

Given his personal connection to one of the victims, David Lammy isn't going to let this go and therefore neither are Labour.

Matt DC, Friday, 16 June 2017 15:29 (nine years ago)

council on the back foot will include many labour councils sadly: cf the haringey development vehicle >:(

mark s, Friday, 16 June 2017 15:31 (nine years ago)

Good point mark s. Landlords need to be actively engaging with multis residents now. Potential sticking point will be financial cost of increased fire safety works, plus the feasibility of installing those measures in old blocks.

wtev, Friday, 16 June 2017 15:32 (nine years ago)

Protesters have stormed into Kensington town hall apparently?

wtev, Friday, 16 June 2017 15:34 (nine years ago)

Amazed it took so long. It's coming across pretty clearly that there has been fuck-all council action on the ground. Residents saying they see firemen and they see volunteers and that's it. Meanwhile council leader pontificates on telly.

Council had their chance to respond properly and seems to have blown it

stet, Friday, 16 June 2017 15:36 (nine years ago)

when people are heckling the queen you can tell something's not right. people are (rightly) very angry.

||||||||, Friday, 16 June 2017 15:37 (nine years ago)

Those letters were apparently hand delivered fwiw.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 16 June 2017 15:43 (nine years ago)

protests/storming of the council all live on BBC News right now fyi

piscesx, Friday, 16 June 2017 15:53 (nine years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCcyWOGXoAAOD2p.jpg

calzino, Friday, 16 June 2017 16:03 (nine years ago)

I'd fucking love to see Nick Robinson reporting from this protest, and maybe trying to explain to some of them his belief that this tragedy wasn't a result of inequality.

calzino, Friday, 16 June 2017 16:12 (nine years ago)

owen hatherley makes the excellent point in dezeen that the new mp for kensington, emma dent coad, is an architectural scholar as well as an activist involved in debates abt regeneration so-called (versus actually providing good social housing)

mark s, Friday, 16 June 2017 16:20 (nine years ago)

when people are heckling the queen you can tell something's not right.

well...

cast your vote for fully automated gay space luxury communism (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 June 2017 16:30 (nine years ago)

Side issue but there's not much point trying to get a response from a town hall after 4pm on a Friday.

wtev, Friday, 16 June 2017 16:34 (nine years ago)

May's visit has gone down great. She must be begging the BoJo and co. to let her quit at this point.

People here furious about the PMs secretive visit and refusing to speak to ppl outside. Went into the church and was ushered into her car

— AssedBaig (@AssedBaig) June 16, 2017

devvvine, Friday, 16 June 2017 16:55 (nine years ago)

Burn neoliberalism, not people. pic.twitter.com/2cEgXo6RBS

— Clive Lewis (@labourlewis) June 16, 2017

mark s, Friday, 16 June 2017 17:07 (nine years ago)

Shocking scenes as Theresa May bundled into a car by police amid fury from the pushing crowd

— Krishnan Guru-Murthy (@krishgm) June 16, 2017

mark s, Friday, 16 June 2017 17:09 (nine years ago)

that's cracking. folk were shouting murderer at her and that apparently.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 16 June 2017 17:10 (nine years ago)

she has had a (well deserved) bad week

mark s, Friday, 16 June 2017 17:14 (nine years ago)

Wow. This interview with a tearful David Lammy MP really feels like part of something changing, profoundly pic.twitter.com/CeYmTjT74e

— Jack Seale (@jackseale) June 16, 2017

stet, Friday, 16 June 2017 17:17 (nine years ago)

🐦[Shocking scenes as Theresa May bundled into a car by police amid fury from the pushing crowd
— Krishnan Guru-Murthy (@krishgm) June 16, 2017🕸]🐦

more pleasing than shocking, i'd say

cast your vote for fully automated gay space luxury communism (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 June 2017 17:21 (nine years ago)

KGM is actually quite angry about this (abt may not speaking rather than the fury of the pushing crowds)

mark s, Friday, 16 June 2017 17:25 (nine years ago)

anyway i think he is

mark s, Friday, 16 June 2017 17:25 (nine years ago)

that dezeen piece is very good. Interesting how the faux polie language of gentrification has progressed since the 90's from "social exclusion" "regeneration" to str8 ruthless "decanting" and I recall one top architect referring to social housing tenants as "freeriders" last year.

calzino, Friday, 16 June 2017 17:29 (nine years ago)

Just lost it when five year old Isaac Shawo's photo came on TV there.

Heavy Doors (jed_), Friday, 16 June 2017 17:30 (nine years ago)

im hungover and this had me wiping my eyes a bit

.@DavidLammy becomes tearful when remembering Khadija Saye, a friend lost in the Grenfell Tower fire. pic.twitter.com/OJdJA5FYSY

— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) June 16, 2017

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 16 June 2017 17:31 (nine years ago)

fuck that david lammy clip is heartbreaking

cast your vote for fully automated gay space luxury communism (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 June 2017 17:32 (nine years ago)


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