Democratic (Party) Direction

it's assumed among most American leftists I interact with that the Dems are beyond saving in the long run

This is why American leftists are so influential

it has nothing to do with "defeatism." American institutions do not do leftism, not in the last 50 years.

Then what do you do? The way for your expressed political views to be anything other than defeatism is if you're basically a nihilist or possibly the most cantankerous and unhappy stoic I've ever met.

Why this constant need to single out Morbius? Politics makes people unhappy those threads are wall to wall w people doomsaying and complaining about being mad unable to sleep fearful etc. Why always pick on the good Dr?

yeah it seems to me he was simply stating a fact just there

Because he is by far the worst?

Other people complain because things go wrong, then something good happens, then they get a bit happy again. Morbs is just shouting, shouting, shouting, shouting.

I absolutely agree that the US is a lost cause. I call that realism.

I support kicking until we go, though. Rage against the dying of the light etc.

Just out of curiosity, any country that isn't a lost cause?

Monaco

Currently the administrative party, Horizon Monaco, (right-wing) holds 20 seats. The opposition party, Union Monégasque, (center) holds 3 seats. Renaissance represents the principality's largest employer SBM, and currently holds 1 seat.

you should see the polling for the next election tho

i thought this was good and kinda inspiring

https://www.thenation.com/article/women-are-leading-the-charge-in-georgias-sixth-congressional-district/

they're baaaaaaaaaack

@DougHenwood
DLC vets Rahm Emanuel & Bruce Reed: to win Dems must be centrist, disappoint base, and make it all about Trump.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/riding-the-2018-wave/530952/

clowns

to win Dems must be centrist, disappoint base, and make it all about Trump.

The problem with Democrats is that everybody thinks they're the base.

Who's the base? Suburban liberal moms? Black people? Immigrants and their kids? Teachers? Chapo Trap House listeners? Gay people? Grad students? Unionized factory workers? College students?

PUMAs? Democratic socialists? Martin O'Malley stans?

Old hippies? Wind entrepreneurs? Yoga instructors? Federal and state employees? Tech bros?

Harold Ford, Jr., one of the few incumbent Democrats to lose a seat in 2006 because he was too obtuse to change his mind about gay marriage, still yammered about supporting the Iraq War, and wanted intervention in the Terri Schiavo case -- this man a few hours was on Morning Joe lamenting Democratic fealty to the abortion lobby.

Suburban liberal moms? Black people? Immigrants and their kids? Teachers? Chapo Trap House listeners? Gay people? Grad students? Unionized factory workers? College students?

All these groups want the same policies in place, don't they?

really think they only have two options: either move legitimately Left (Warren should be the baseline), or just start murking white ppl over the age of 60.

except basket-weaving hippies

who is the base?

people who need the government and know it.

All these groups want the same policies in place, don't they?

I would say no, though of course there's substantial overlap.

I'd love to see the venn diagrams or the basic explanations of where they don't overlap.

Racism?

For example.

'College students' covers a pretty large spectrum of ideologies (and levels of privilege), 'suburban liberal moms' is a niche that's pretty heavily slanted (expand to 'suburban moms' and you've got the basic ideological split that led to a majority of white women voting Trump), etc..

I guess I'm saying I legitimately have no idea who people are talking about when they talk about "the Democratic base," and I kind of think different people mean different things, and furthermore I kind of think most people are thinking "people like me."

people who think the govt should help ensure their income and health

you know, there are a lot of suburban moms who _really_ love guns.

Lots of Republicans think the government should help ensure THEIR income and health.

Kansas 4th district
2016: 60.7% R / 29.6% D (-31.1%)
2017: 52.5% R / 45.7% D (-6.8%)
A 24.3 point shift towards the D's

Montana at-large district:
2016: 56.2% R / 40.6% D (-15.6%)
2017: 50.2% R / 44.1% D (-6.1%)
A 9.5 point shift towards the D's

Georgia 6th district:
2016: 61.7% R / 38.3% D (-23.4%)
2017: 51.9% R / 48.1% D (-3.8%)
A 19.6 point shift toward the D's

South Carolina 5th district:
2016: 59.2% R / 38.7% D (-20.5%)
2017: 51.1% R / 47.9% D (-3.2%)
A 17.3 point shift toward the D's

don't fuck this up next november!

eephus, i'm not so sure

(at least that's not the Republican base.)

Democrats looking for a boost going into the midterm-election year of 2018 will rely on their solid prospects in the two states holding regular gubernatorial elections in November, New Jersey and Virginia.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/the-democrats-losing-streak-will-likely-end-in-november.html

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/06/ghost-candidates-are-not-acceptable

I dug this. Gets into why you'd want to run an electoral campaign even if you're not sure you'll win.

you guys realize all kinds of people live in the suburbs. Fred you have to lay off looking for the boogyman chill the fuck out sometimes. you are talking suburban Atlanta and you are living in Denmark. give me a break

adam otm

Yep

I live in the suburbs. Please be nice to me. :-)

How's the racism out there

Everyone here realizes all kinds of people live in the suburbs.

In my outer ring NYC suburb it's just me and 750,000 clones of me

All kinds of people are evangelicals too, but 80% voted for Trump. So even though 16% voted for Clinton, people just say evangelicals went for Trump. It's how people talk about voting blocs, in generalizations.

That sounds like literal hell, Treesh.

Nah it's chill

nobody like me lives in the suburbs

because I don't have a driver's license

Commie.