brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

disappointing lack of tories-tearing-themselves-apart tbh

it's probable that their shookness over the possibility of fighting another election right now is keeping them in order, plus the lack of any credible challenger. give them time to start unravelling in parliament, it's very hard to believe she'll see out 5 years.

i seem to recall a certain "short-lived cleggeron era"

The tabs seem worried by the fact that all SF's MPs are flying to London today. No suggestion that it isn't just for administration business atm but there is a press conference later, I think.

Cleggeron didn't have to deal with Brexit. The Tories are keeping May in place so she can cop the blame for that impending disaster as well as the election. Then they can get a new broom in.

What's the average by-election rate, 2 or 3 a year? That's yr majority right there.

anyone who thinks they came up with "the absolute boy" doesn't understand culture or politics tbh

is yvette cooper a big beast

all the big beasts are gone, we're on our own now

Haha he has disowned whatever five min joke that was.

He understands politics far more than Owen Jones (this might not be hard)

Haha he has disowned whatever five min joke that was

^^^he doesn't understand politics or culture, making his account private is sensible

For now its usually an open account (you have rt-ed this person btw)

no fact more damning tbr

We're the big beasts now

full firm beasts

RTs by big firm full beasts are no endorsements ofc

The lrb paisley essay is now a free-read, btw.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v04/n06/tom-paulin/paisleys-progress

Tx Jed will look later

was listening to Gove earlier trying to dismiss his erratic voting record on environmental matters as a "misrepresentation" and he has previously claimed to be a "shy green". That would be shy in the same manner that IDS was a shy disability rights advocate.

lord buckethead on brexit fyi

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19105883_10154601561077411_6088932478758234175_n.jpg?oh=36e957940ee5ec48ff880b95de5050dc&oe=59D62331

Rudd has refused to apologise for pulling figures out of her arse on the tv debate last week when she exaggerated what is spent on disability benefits by £13 billion. It's a good job they didn't use her fucked up math on the re-count as well.

just imagine the fuss if she was non-white and maybe called Diane Abbott.

no but it's different when diane abbott does it because uh

Turns out Stroud is the scene of the longest-running personal political rivalry in UK politics but no one outside Stroud has ever noticed. pic.twitter.com/E1JgYt1Eei

— Jim Waterson (@jimwaterson) June 12, 2017

The person (and people that I follow around on my Twitter TL) who came up with it has absolutely slated her/Owen Jones and Mae O'Hagan, most of it with good reason

RMDE if people are slating Ellie Mae O'Hagan, who has been broadly supportive throughout, actually bothered to talk to Momentum supporters and understand them, and literally went out campaigning for Corbyn in marginal seats, then they aren't able to tolerate the tiniest bit of even constructive/healthy dissent.

xp kinda surprised by that, would've assumed everywhere in the Cotswolds was die-hard Tory.

cheltenham was quite close between the tories and libdem iirc.

Conservative
Alex Chalk
Votes 26,615

Liberal Democrat
Martin Horwood
Votes 24,046

Labour
Keith White
Votes 5,408

getting a bit worried about Corbyn's performance radicalizing people on my FB timeline guys:

"With Corbynism on the rise fighting back against the excesses of high Toreyism, it is time for the Housemartins to make a comeback. They are needed now in these troubled times, more than ever."

https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/anthony-barnett/age-of-corbyn-i-most-powerful-person-in-land

"Two days after the election and writing for millions of readers Mandelson shows us that he is the twentieth century politician. He instructs the ‘moderates’ among Labour MPs to… support Theresa May!"

Greg Knight!

http://danielrachel.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Red-Wedge-036__Melody-Maker-front-cover.jpg

The word coming out of Number 10 is that the election result changes nothing about their approach to Brexit negotiations. This doesn't strike me as wise at this particular time.

The raw numbers are striking in Stroud. 7,000 extra labour votes that weren't there two years ago.

Also, lololololololol, proposed boundary changes would give, on 2017 results, a majority of NI seats to Sinn Fein http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/boundaries2018.html

fucking hell, greg knight in the melody maker!

his election jingle keeps popping into my head so it's well-deserved tbh

he discusses arsequake with the stud brothers iirc

would read

Thinking seriously about legislation they might be able to pass, the lock-down-the-internet stuff looks very difficult now- you've got a handful of tory mps who like to grandstand on the issue of civil liberties, and more importantly you've got Big Tech giants opposed, the kind of people the tory party exists to serve. Big Tech more than capable of buying offenergetically lobbying a few dozen tory mps, especially with such a lame duck PM.

Also it was fucking stupid and unachieveable from the start and everyone except May seemed to know that.

One reason the Fixed Term Parliaments Act is good thing and not a bad one, is that it's harder for minority govts to arbitrarily designate tough votes as confidence issues, to force things through, as the Callaghan and Major govts used to do all the time.

There's still scope for governments to blackmail their own mps of course, but it's more difficult, more hoops to jump through. A small step on the long road to bringing British democracy into the 19th century

the harperson speaketh (to the correct thread this time)

Harriet Harman, the former Labour party deputy leader, has said Jeremy Corbyn should take the credit for the party’s success at the general election and she would now expect all Labour MPs to want to serve in his shadow cabinet.

Speaking before a meeting of the parliamentary Labour party (PLP), Harman, who has been in the Commons since 1982, conceded that her earlier doubts about Corbyn’s leadership had been misplaced.

As another influential Labour backbencher, Clive Efford, argued that the existing shadow cabinet deserved to keep their positions, Harman said she would expect former critics in the party to now be happy to serve under Corbyn.
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Harman told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme she had been wrong in her assumption that Corbyn could not take the party forward.

“He’s confounded those expectations. Just as, if we’d have lost seats under his leadership, he would have had to take responsibility, we’ve gained seats under his leadership, and he can take the credit for that.”

Harman said the atmosphere among Labour MPs even shortly before the election had been morbid: “We were expecting the Tories to lay waste to us. Instead it turned around and we come back coherent, united.

“The atmosphere is verging from on one hand relief to jubilant, and the Tories are in disarray. And Jeremy Corbyn has to take the credit for that, because he was the leader and he’s gone forward.”

can't believe the number of conservative MPs who want a hard brexit is 295.

stephen bush had a good piece yesterday on the effects of the FTP act on the DUP's leverage

hey, just because she couldn't police the entire internet doesn't mean she couldn't make it a bit shittier

missed this a couple of days ago but the lols are as fresh as ever

Not only is a there a poll showing the Tories behind Labour, there’s also one showing every replacement for May would make them less popular pic.twitter.com/3qvAu7MvRJ

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) June 10, 2017

Stephen Bush wrote a piece yesterday saying that the Fixed Term Parliaments Act gives a disproportionate amount of power to the DUP even by Hung Parliament standards. Essentially the DUP can withdraw their support on anything they want, inflicting defeat after defeat upon the party, unless they get their way, because the FTPA means that only a No Confidence vote can bring the government down.

Result = zombie government unable to do anything, OR one in which the DUP get whatever the hell they want.

the dup are finding themselves in the wholly unfamilar position of being able to hold a gun to someone's head to get what they want

oof

but at least they can force May to go full term

haha

strung and stagnant