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"In heaven, all circumcised men reunite with their foreskins' souls"

a lot of catholics/orthodox christians cut dicks because they want to make it really hard for their boys to masturbate

― i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, June 5, 2017

What? I come from a country where the majority is Christian Orthodox and I've never, ever heard of this.

A fren u bleed is a fren indeed

also gonna say it since this is the contoroversial opinion thread

fat dudes have lower sexual appetite/function (cut or uncut) and act more feminine

What? I come from a country where the majority is Christian Orthodox and I've never, ever heard of this.

― pomenitul, Monday, June 5, 2017 9:22 AM (forty-four seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

because those same people are too conservative to talk about it so openly so they mask it in "tradition"

also tradition has taken over so they don't really understand why but culturally, masturbation is seen as a negative in christian communities, so if you read some wierd esoteric texts these days, they'll hint at it, but mostly goes people's heads

your stupid googled opinions and gut feelings is why you're the worst poster on this board btw

^ triggered lol

I'm sorry, but I'm gonna need a source on that. If anything, circumcision comes across as a strictly Jewish and therefore condemnable practice in Christian Orthodox countries that have yet to overcome their age-old antisemitism.

notice i said a lot

take a trip to south america and talk to the catholics there

i agree that in a lot of euroeapean christian orthodox communities it does come across as stricly jewish but it's not like that everywhere

"surgically attaching a "ring of clits" to a male member produces higher gains"

k3v don't worry i still luv u man

cuz you're one of god's creatures, so fallible

My parents had me circumcised because in the early '70s it was the trendy thing to do in pediatric health.

i never said it should be mandatory. it is an example of an intervention whose risks and benefits closely approximate one another, so either decision is reasonable

That makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.

If anything is "ilx in 2017" about this thread it's that the response to an endorsement of fgm was mostly a bunch of dudes arguing about their foreskins

take a trip to south america and talk to the catholics there

wtf...

Mr Infinity, are you possibly using 'christian orthodox' to mean something different than 'orthodox christian' and why on earth would you do that...

I agree about the dog pants.

an endorsement of fgm

believing it should be legal != endorsement of the practice. i think it's depraved and immoral.

sorry yeah I realised that was the wrong wording after posting

I'm pretty sure it shouldn't be legal tho lol xp.

in other news: having 4skin is 2 cool

If anything is "ilx in 2017" about this thread it's that the response to an endorsement of fgm was mostly a bunch of dudes arguing about their foreskins

Though "mostly a bunch of dudes arguing about their foreskins" = next board description?

having 4skin is 2 cool

Prince tracks that should have stayed in the vault

take a trip to south america and talk to the catholics there

wtf...

Mr Infinity, are you possibly using 'christian orthodox' to mean something different than 'orthodox christian' and why on earth would you do that...

― Frederik B, Monday, June 5, 2017 9:48 AM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

uh in the usa, most boys are circumcised, there are quite a few orthodox christians in the usa who are fine with and practice it...sorry if this breaks yours and others' euro-centric vision of the world

randomly googled this which is one greek orthodox church that speaks positively about it: http://www.stgeorgegoc.org/pastors-corner/fr-ricks-sermons/meaning-of-circumcision

i mean i can tell you about my catholic upbringing, some of my family members' rank in their parish, or about my devout mother and her education, but really this does little to convince someone who only believes people practice a religion based on a doctrine written in a book

it's far more than just rules in a book or an encyclopaedia entry

my uncle does a lot of missionary work and spent most of his time in south america btw

take a trip to south america and talk to the catholics there

no it's pretty rare here, circ was mostly done for medical issues later in life but there are non-invasive ways to treat phimosis etc now so it's even rarer. I've seen & been w/ lots of south american dick in my time so trust

O and to be off-topically uncontroversial: the circumcision of newborn males is not even remotely comparable to female genital mutilation. Not morally comparable, not societally comparable, and (except for a few relatively rare cases) not medically comparable.

It's like that thing where "a man fears that a woman may laugh at him; a woman fears that a man might kill her." Yes, they're both afraid, but the two fears are not equal in severity or scope.

A normal middle-aged American man who was circumcised at birth in a hospital, but who has gone on to have a healthy and active sex life, may occasionally wonder about what things would be like had he not been circumcised. It is not part of a system of oppression against his personal autonomy or his right to sexual expression.

Been a while since we've seen that one wheeled out

take a trip to south america and talk to the catholics there

no it's pretty rare here, circ was mostly done for medical issues later in life but there are non-invasive ways to treat phimosis etc now so it's even rarer. I've seen & been w/ lots of south american dick in my time so trust

― epigone, Monday, June 5, 2017 10:24 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, it's generally only done for medical reasons in chile afaik?

Observation suggests that every possible opinion about circumcision is controversial.

xxxp

never said it was the majority, but it is still a lot:

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuncisi%C3%B3n#Distribuci.C3.B3n_geogr.C3.A1fica

7,4 % en Brasil,3 6,9 % en Colombia, entre el 10 % y el 31 % en México

http://larepublica.pe/12-11-2014/mitos-y-beneficios-de-la-circuncision

Se calcula que en la población masculina adulta 3 de cada 10 son circuncidados”, explica el médico urólogo del Centro de Litotricia, Jorge Álvarez.

My indifference to James Corden looks tame now.

lol

A man who as far as we can tell consists mainly of foreskin tbf

randomly googled this which is one greek orthodox church that speaks positively about it: http://www.stgeorgegoc.org/pastors-corner/fr-ricks-sermons/meaning-of-circumcision

― i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, June 5, 2017

Because a Greek Orthodox church in Chicago is representative of practices in, say, Serbia? You'll need to find a non-American example that's more than just an outlier.

Anyhow, in my native language I found nothing of the sort.

huh? i never said it was representative of serbia or europe

i'm in the usa dude

the red white and blue

I think rescinding someone's acceptance to college over what they posted in a PRIVATE facebook group is gross and chilling, but I'm sure many people here will be all too happy to tell me why it's a Very Good Thing.

i think that's an uncontroversial opinion

hmm I guess I'm hanging around the wrong corners of the internet then because most of what I've seen has been very laudatory of Harvard's decision.

i'm actually fine with it. i havent read about the case you're referring to, but i bet this kid painted a very different picture of himself in his application essay. not a freedom of speech issue

no, it's not a freedom of speech issue, no one is entitled to admittance to Harvard. that doesn't mean it can't still be gross.

I envision a lovecraftian leviathan of foreskins that have united like voltron to claim revenge on the cutters

It is an outstanding thing.

Harvard is a private institution that tells propsective freshman that their acceptance is conditional upon their subsequent behavior in their acceptance letters. Everyone who actually reads the letter knows that they need to behave or else they could put their admission in jeopardy. Furthermore, these kids were in a private group with a whole bunch of people that they didn't actually know, intentionally and purposefully associating their real names with reprehensible shit as a first impression to their classmates. It's not like a subset of them got together and only passed super gross stuff around among themselves; they had to show their asses to the wider audience first, which is how the school found out about it in the first place. This is also the type of thing that would get a current student brought in front of the Administrative Board for breach of student conduct and likely made to take a year sabbatical before they could finish their degrees (the schools, both undergrad and graduate, are very loathe to kick students out once they've started studies, which is why they tried to handle so many date rape situations internally and got into trouble with Title IX violations). Finally, anyone who is dumb enough to actually participate in this type of thing, particularly associated with their real names, as a first impression to the community where they intend to spend the next four years, is actually too stupid to be at Harvard.

yeah, fuck racists imo, DJP otm

Like, do you think these kids would have been offered admission had they walked into their interviews namechecking sexually explicit material and making pinata jokes about beating Mexican children? They absolutely would not. Basically, these kids helped out some waitlisters and hopefully will reflect on the consequences associated with their actions as they get their degrees at Penn.

is there anything in the harvard crimson rule book about cancelling your degree if you declared war on a country?

I think rescinding someone's acceptance to college over what they posted in a PRIVATE facebook group is gross and chilling, but I'm sure many people here will be all too happy to tell me why it's a Very Good Thing.

― evol j, Monday, June 5, 2017 2:12 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark

there's no such thing as privacy on Facebook

as they get their degrees at Penn.

stone cold

yeah solid subtweet

there's no such thing as privacy on the internet in general IMO

there's no such thing as privacy on Facebook

― 龜, Monday, June 5, 2017 6:25 PM (three minutes ago)

it is kind of amazing how many ppl do not grasp this, the thing is called "social media" ffs

This is also the type of thing that would get a current student brought in front of the Administrative Board for breach of student conduct and likely made to take a year sabbatical before they could finish their degrees

I find this very hard to believe, given that the student who hung a Confederate flag out her dorm room window wasn't disciplined in any way.

And yeah, I am basically against this move, because I think 17-year-olds, even Harvard-bound 17-year-olds, are idiotic in predictable ways, and yes I am more willing to give them a pass than I am some middle-aged clown who makes a surgeon's salary trolling liberals and weeping about the silencing of his views