Bill Maher - classic!

Yeah no kidding

bill maher is human garbage

to repeat my own phrase, I've been hoping he trips into traffic for quite some time now. this will have to do

I'm sure Kathy Griffin is somewhere muttering to herself "thank god"

y'all are some complex thinkers eh

talk me through the complexity of using the n-word in that context no actually don't bother

it was dumb to say it. but saying it doesn't make him racist. or human garbage. it's exactly this type of reflexive outrage that turns off people to liberalism that would otherwise be sympathetic.

That's not the thing that makes him human garbage, everything else about him makes him human garbage. This is just the weird foam on top of the pile of shit.

fair

This definitely has quite a lot with why he is human garbage, though.

i can vaguely guess what happened from the last 11 posts, but the ILX thing of discussing some recent news w/out mentioning the thing itself is supremely annoying. but hey i'm the one who doesnt CHECK HIS DEVICES every 5 minutes.

He referred to himself as a "house n****r":

http://www.theroot.com/white-habitual-line-stepper-bill-maher-calls-himself-a-1795778745

oh god he's going to get such a boner from being called a "line stepper"

i really don't see how this is defensible in any way

It's not. Has anyone seen Michael Richards lately?

Btw yes bill maher is racist. Also human garbage. Both well established prior to this ill-advised self-righteous self-pity party.

He started attacking islam later in the show. I didn't really hear the full extent cos i had it on in the background.
Could just about see what the slavery quip was about but thought it pretty tasteless.

He and Ann Coulter are essentially the same person, with the same approach, just playing to opposing crowds. How people don't see right through that shit is beyond me.

His drunk womanizing/rapey behavior is worse than the other stuff imo

He and Ann Coulter are essentially the same person, with the same approach, just playing to opposing crowds. How people don't see right through that shit is beyond me.

a good chunk of his show is devoted towards airing/saying hateful shit but having a picture up of some bad guy from The Other Side you are supposed to imagine saying it instead of the person actually saying it who is obviously getting a kick from being able to get away w saying it

Maher and Kathy Griffin will be sharing a cover story somewhere--maybe not Time, but some high-profile publication--and the accompanying article will make "the age of Trump" partly or largely culpable.

Just so I don't end up with a firing squad around me:

1) This is a dispassionate prediction;
2) It in no way reflects my personal feelings about Bill Maher, Kathy Griffin, Donald Trump, god, truth, or the American Way;
3) I'm old, and often don't know what I'm posting.

I'm sure Kathy Griffin is somewhere muttering to herself "thank god"

― frogbs

i'm kind of muttering to myself "thank god". i hope this will make bill maher go away from the "media ecosystem" forever. please god.

a good chunk of his show is devoted towards airing/saying hateful shit but having a picture up of some bad guy from The Other Side you are supposed to imagine saying it instead of the person actually saying it who is obviously getting a kick from being able to get away w saying it

Lol dude this is the pretty standard set-up for any political satire show. Kinda misreading the intent though, even for Maher.

(this is not a defense of Maher or his comment, just sayin)

Official bill maher apology pic.twitter.com/uQ8IT37PtE

— Adam Friedland (@AdamFriedland) June 3, 2017

pretty on the nose

I feel like the Kathy Griffin thing is more in line with Lena Dunham's comments about wishing she had had an abortion: tone-deaf attempts at liberalism that do our side zero favours. I'd include Maher in with this except I have no idea what he was trying to achieve with his gag.

Because I missed the gag (either my husband or I was saying something to the other while it happened, and we only heard the audience laugh-gasp afterwards), I thought the ickiest moment of last night's show was him shouting down Rebecca Traister as she was making a solid point about religion as a potential outlet for masculinist violence, rather than its cause, so that he could be all "NO! ISLAM IS THE WORST!" But that basic scene happens every week on the show.

Not sure what the republican guest was trying to achieve by suggesting that Bill go and work in the fields with him. Not heard it said as a phrase before. Can see how the comment fit in response but think it wasn't well judged. Shouldn't be something that is being said off the cuff in front of a recording audience though. Some people probably think of that as being overly PC for a humorist but just seems to have been a stupid thing to have said.

i think he gets more curdled the older he gets. just keeps repeating himself all the time like an old man. i didn't mind him years ago. liked his rants. he just seems like a big baby now. comedians shouldn't get so comfortable. he's so comfy/smug in his bubble. i mean he was always smug but i seem to remember him listening more. and it seemed like he took more care to have a good mix of guests. now its just lunatic right wing people and kinda befuddled other people i've never heard of. and some random celebrity.

Nobody intelligent wants to waste time on his show

He's the worst kind of pot head too - he's bereft of original thought and checked out mentally. Not good qualities for running a show imo

I don't understand how he could possibly think it would be cool to say the n word.

Tarantino syndrome

he was playing his Eminem records?

i was gonna bring T****t**o into this but that will lead nowhere productive

Louis CK gets away with it too.

every generation gets the frank zappa they deserve

Haha ouch

Maher def in that lineage of unholy fools and (doyou)seers

i still love george carlin. not everything he did obviously. and he loved his 50's-era jive talk. but i still appreciate him as a writer. bill hicks i can live without. i see maher and hicks in that post-carlin light.

I was too young, or at least too unhip, to be into Hicks at the time, so when I finally caught up with him, I was a bit appalled by this supposedly "revolutionary" comedian just being another sexist, homophobic asshole.

Right

bill hicks is all the worst parts of the "dudes who think they're really smart" brand of comedy

haven't listened to any hicks stuff in years but i suspect his fondness for conspiracy theories and "they're all puppets of the system, man!" attitude toward politics would prob sound a lot grosser in the current climate than it did in the early '90s

yeah, we don't really need more antisocial, conspiratorial types of any political persuasion rn

i can see how this happened in bill maher's mind

1. senator makes a bizarre comment about inviting maher to work "in the fields"
2. maher thinks it's a putdown, calling maher a slave, a member of the bottom class
3. maher tries to think up a joke, maybe a slightly higher class?, what about a slave in the house, what are they called again?

and then he doesn't have the filter to know that the n-word is a bad idea in any context.

Conspiracy theories were just good times fun before 9/11 Truthers and Alex Jones.

Is the phrase 'work in the fields' odd or just regional or what.
I hadn't heard it used non literally before as far as I can remember.
But can see why the response might be what it was if done live.
Odd that I'm watching Dear White People at around the same time where several people are saying 'you can't use that word'. Should be understood though especially between 2 white people especially when they're being recorded. Would be nice if they weren't using it at all but can't control that. Don't want it normalising anyway though may be too late for that since it's used in rap etc. & Patti Smith. Did she get much shit for that? Or Yoko?

Louis CK gets a pass for this all the time

i can see how this happened in bill maher's mind

1. senator makes a bizarre comment about inviting maher to work "in the fields"
2. maher thinks it's a putdown, calling maher a slave, a member of the bottom class
3. maher tries to think up a joke, maybe a slightly higher class?, what about a slave in the house, what are they called again?

and then he doesn't have the filter to know that the n-word is a bad idea in any context.

This is literally not what this joke is

the sen said "IN THE FIELD," a common phrase for doing political legwork

Maher's brain went "WHERE"S THE JOKE" bcz that's what comedians do