Hillery should have gotten with the patriotic russioan hackers
― Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:27 (seven years ago) link
Jim Webb is human garbage who looks like a Dick Tracy villain and should be sealed in a barrel and floated out to sea.
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:27 (seven years ago) link
Ironic to see Hadrian VIII complaining about dynasty imo
― D'mnuchin returns (darraghmac), Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:25 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
A+
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:28 (seven years ago) link
I don't watch sports, but do those ESPN guys larp their way through last year's Super Bowl every day?
The problem being that the systems and mindsets that led to the loss are still in place.
― Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link
why anyone expends any positive energy on politicians to the right of Warren remains a mystery to me
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link
some comic relief from across the pond
The mayor of Manchester, a member of the Labor Party, learnedly explains that the US and UK never intervened in the mideast before 9/11 pic.twitter.com/n51OzuJVkV— Jon Schwarz (@tinyrevolution) June 1, 2017
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:38 (seven years ago) link
Iron Law of Institutions?
― Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:39 (seven years ago) link
XP to simon: because they run everything?
― D'mnuchin returns (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:39 (seven years ago) link
also
Yeah, the Paris accords are pretty weak stuff, but the enlightened wing of the business class is freaking out. pic.twitter.com/jc3gMWybO2— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) June 1, 2017
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:40 (seven years ago) link
Rolling Stone: 'Donald Trump' Tops List of New Meth Nicknames
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:43 (seven years ago) link
I missed the part where Jim Webb was "deterred from entering the race." Could have sworn I saw him in the first debate.
― kajagoogoo's kazooist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:45 (seven years ago) link
he was deterred by all the faces he saw everywhere scowling at him
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:46 (seven years ago) link
I think humans will only agree to climate change actions once their houses are flooded and destroyed and they cant buy gas for their cars cause its too expensive.
Just being optimistic!
― Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:46 (seven years ago) link
I meant in terms of hopes for the future, candidacies, etc. Neoliberalism is a dead end.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link
it still blows my mind that there was a cover feature in the nation praising webb early on as he ran for senator
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link
xp: Simon
Because enough voters don't really know left from right (cf Trump's base), and are looking at things like domineering bearing or whether the candidate reminds them of their ex. I hope we'll see a progressive in the WH soon, but I wouldn't be surprised if that progressive was a military vet.
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link
It's not about knowing left from right, it's about addressing people's material concerns in a credible way. Maybe then some of that 45% that sits elections out will turn up.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:49 (seven years ago) link
Moulton '20
― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link
Sanpaku OTM. Trumpbase's material concerns are being put through a wood chipper and they don't care.
― a warm bowl of soap (WilliamC), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link
well he's "shakin' things up"!
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:57 (seven years ago) link
it's about addressing people's material concerns in a credible way.
WilliamC otm, Trump's core supporters don't process their material concerns in a way that reflects their politics.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:57 (seven years ago) link
or rather their political positions don't reflect their material concerns
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:58 (seven years ago) link
Did u miss the part where I wasn't talking about Trump's "core supporters"
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:59 (seven years ago) link
I'm talking about the millions and millions of people who feel (correctly, I think) alienated from the mainstream American political process and don't bother participating as a result
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, even I took Simon's comment to mean that there are votes to be won among the 45% of turned-off nonvoters The Trumpoids won't be convinced by any means anyways so why try
― kajagoogoo's kazooist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link
DJP blowing up the moulton.house.gov uniques
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:02 (seven years ago) link
When thousands of small manufacturers closed factories in small town USA and moved operations to places like China and Mexico, many of the workers decided it was all the fault of the Chinese and Mexicans.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:02 (seven years ago) link
i can't wait for trump's reality show style countdown to 3pm EST - will he decide to shit all over the world again? will some rich guy convince him not to do it? who will be the last person to whisper in his ear? has he learned anything about why coal mining jobs are disappearing? will he share his discovery of natural gas from earlier this morning? will he refer to climate change as a conspiracy so far reaching that it involves nearly all scientists who have worked on the issue PLUS china, but somehow all evidence of this globalist plot involving tens or even hundreds of thousands of people has been buried (by the lying fake news?!!?!)!?!?!?!?!!? ALL THIS AND MORE AT 3PM EST, sign up for a 3-day free hulu trial to watch live and we'll send you a climate change barf bag!
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:05 (seven years ago) link
BREAKING: Former FBI director James Comey to testify before Senate Intel next THURSDAY, June 8, at 10 a.m.— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) June 1, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:05 (seven years ago) link
I wonder if this might have something to do with the lack of class awareness in American society leaving people inventing foreign boogeymen
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link
You think the hearings are going to be a summer-long thing like Iran-Contra or something where it's just on in the background for months?
You wander into the lunch room to grab a snack and notice on the flatscreen there's yet another tie-wearing grimaced white dude talking in a mic behind some chyron and a scroll
― Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link
pretty sure that stoking the flames of xenophobia in the face of domestic hardships is a common move throughout the world and history
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:19 (seven years ago) link
^ Chapter eight in the Oligarchic Best Practices Handbook.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link
Well, yeah. Hence the need to counter it with something more effective than centrist sloganeering.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link
Sorry, this is the Trump thread, not the new left policy thread, I'll shut up now
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link
Just FYI, this is what gives us "we spend too much time talking about race" thinkpieces from the racist left.
― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link
I've become pessimistic about this Russia inquiry.
I don't think the disinformation campaign was as organized and targeted as Hillary claimed in that recent interview. All the "fake news" was just following the lead of right wing narratives about the Clintons that had been going on for decades. Russia would not need the help of Cambridge Analytica to make certain kinds of stories go viral among this audience.
I do agree with her that this stuff had an effect. Many voters probably did stay home because they were confused and thought she was about to be arrested or whatever. This sucks but does it indicate "collusion"? How much of what Russia did -- outside the hacks themselves -- was original and how much was just using bots to amplify stories that were circulating on their own? Also how much of the disinformation was from russia and how much was profit driven?
I want Clinton to be right and for Trump to get carted off to jail but it just doesn't seem like a plausible reading of the events to me.
― Treeship, Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link
xposts not to say that simon's wrong, just that it's not unique to americans. one of the reasons it's a classic move is that it often works. people aren't just empty shells ready to receive evil directions from their political leaders; there's something in us that craves a scapegoat.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link
Wonder how long Spicer is going to remain loyal. After not being allowed along on the papal visit how many more mistweets is he going to defend.JUst caught up with last night's Chris Hayes which had the soundtrack to yesterday's press briefing.where he's left continually asking Blake?Blake?Blake?Blake?Blake?
after being asked what the neologism meant.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:37 (seven years ago) link
Huh?
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:41 (seven years ago) link
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/kanye-west-stop-focusing-on-racism-812186179719
― President Keyes, Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:45 (seven years ago) link
Kanye West said he wanted to talk about "race and the idea of racism."
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:46 (seven years ago) link
I guess this is as good a time as any to head to the TNC thread and talk about RL Stephens' piece.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:49 (seven years ago) link
https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0809/31/mcdonalds-grimace-novelty-neck-tie_1_5b47d1d952e93ae8f5bf4c9079b8ee84.jpg
― Balðy Daudrs (contenderizer), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:51 (seven years ago) link
http://www.newsweek.com/congress-investigates-another-possible-sessions-kislyak-meeting-cnn-618964
“I did not have communications with the Russians.”
― Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link
should be "those Russians" imo
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link
I'm trying to stay pessimistic about the Russia stuff but there is just...so...much...there
― frogbs, Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link
CLinton was sucked by a mouth and he was impeached - Trump sucked the world dry and was let be.
― Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link
nah this is crippling his administration, with any luck it will drag on forever
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:10 (seven years ago) link
please untype xp
― Balðy Daudrs (contenderizer), Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link