immigrant & ethnic food cultures, white ppl & appropriation, foodies

I did that, but it turned out the wall was mirrored

I did that, but it turned out I was the dumpling

we need to steal all of chinese character username's chinese food and never let him back in this thread

no place for old ilxors in nu ilx newayz

Turning into a bit of a burrito stall anyways

dmac have you seen this

you'll probably hate it but whatevs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e6qyxHc0ng

Before I commit are they Irish or american

yes

irish

I will brook no criticism of dayo's impeccable ilx brand and good opinions itt specifically

^^^ it sometimes seems like, in lieu of an overlord editor that will rephrase statements like the above you all want a revolution carried out by people who won't slip on discursive ice.

I enjoyed that youtube

white people: the same, everywhere

It's possibly more that wite yanks are too far immersed in the wite yank gloop to sufficiently recognise the fairly unsubtle characteristics of other discrete wite cultures, possibly allied with a racially-indiscriminate yank trait of assuming the wider world is just so many milder flavours of yankism tbh.

Only possibly, mind. And I've not watched the video yet tbfttwy

Who is lion in winter and why are they being such a dick?

strangely they didn't take well to being told to crawl back into whatever hole they came from

harshness aside I think dayo was on point there, tbh.

it's not mysterious

this thread has become a solid hate read

good for you, ogmor. refreshing to see someone with a pc gone mad stance in this liberal fascist world of ours

i kind of like this thread because it's one of the few political-ish topics on ilx where there seems to be genuine disagreement

i like food...

i believe i can support the crusade of political correctness while still feeling a sense of weary disappointment at how things unfold itt

yeah i broadly agree with the underlying sentiments expressed by dayo and others itt, i just think this phenomenon is more of a symptom than a cause of inequality and since nothing can really be done legislatively about it, expending valuable energy haranguing people about it seems silly and pointless

also food is good

in the bad old days in philly in the 90s i used to love to eat at the taco house on pine street. crusty punk central. i have NO idea where they got the recipes for that place or even how you would describe the taste of their idea of mexican food. i ate a ton of it. hippie punk mexican? i think that's a thing.

I only regret my biographical post because I was trying to figure out where I was centering my viewpoint but it was just self-indulgent

wasn't meant as any sort of statement of qualifications for sure

post-racial left vs. identitarian left is a pretty huge fucking deal, particularly along generational lines. my mom will insist until the day she dies that race doesn't matter because she believes it's the only way to bring about a world where race doesn't matter, which is what she wants. for anyone with eyes in their head the post-racial left is not credible, but man the white left of my mom's generation is not super equipped to deal with the notion that race matters and will continue to matter for a long, long time yet.

i feel like it's still defensible to construct a matrix of shame around taco bell and rick bayless that transcends race, no?

counterpoint: Taco Bell, while not really "food" per se, is delicious

DJP you're possibly from territory where you can judge: Taco John's has better baseline quality than the Bell but their experiments are not as good, agree?

100%!

i feel like it's still defensible to construct a matrix of shame around taco bell and rick bayless that transcends race, no?

― Philip Nunez, Thursday, June 1, 2017 10:33 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not that this is exactly what you or anyone else was saying but: the idea that latinos don't also eat the shit out of taco bell and only go to 'legit' mom and pop taquerias is...weird

it's fast food, people love it

So apparently Taco Bell was "inspired" by Mitla Cafe in San Bernadino, whose owner sez

"Good for him!" She pointed out that Mitla had never suffered a drop in business because of Taco Bell, that her restaurant had been in business longer than his, and "our tacos were better."

I debated posting this cuz it seems sorta glib but : http://www.ocweekly.com/restaurants/let-white-people-appropriate-mexican-food-mexicans-do-it-to-ourselves-all-the-time-8133678

the circle is now complete

i have never eaten at a taco bell! they were just never close to wherever i was living. i don't even know where there is one around here. probably northampton. or a mall maybe. they should really open a popeyes here in town. i would go there.

god that video. we prob should start a shag marry kill poll.

i know they must have had them in philly when i lived there but not near me.

those are very authentic modern irish young people, imo. like they are obv deplorable but for a video entitled "irish people" i feel they've got some fairly typical specimens of irish norms.

uh

that link was posted above and there was some discussion about it with beefs included

xp to lukas

most american restaurants now are such a hodgepodge melting pot. i kinda like that though. i mean its different than the hipster "i invented the taco/noodle/beer/coffee..." attitude. its more fun than restaurants used to be that's for sure. i just looked at the appetizer list for my friend's restaurant here in town: crab rangoon dip, sesame fried green beans, mezze plate, tamale popper, greek chicken thighs, etc.

you know? she is italian-american. i would eat the hell out of some greek chicken thighs. (fyi: the greek restaurant in town is dire...)

they also have jamaican jerk meatloaf on the entree list now.....would eat.

sorry, i forgot about ctrl-f

apparently this argument is _still_ going on. willamette week did a roundtable with chefs, most of whom were politely bemused and nonplussed at the reaction.

if there's something that rankles me about all this it's that the blame for this gets placed on portland. as if death threats over stuff like pop-up food carts were a "portland" thing and not an "internet" thing.

Man angered after ordering a mild curry and getting a receipt marked 'white ppl'

too much time on ilx etc etc

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/06/11/532086897/grappling-with-race-class-and-southern-foods-great-debt-of-pleasure

...

https://ny.eater.com/2017/6/30/15841234/david-bouhadana-japanese-accent-sushi-chef

pffffffft

lol

man this has to be the dumbest "issue" within this subject

i'm more worried about getting ripped off by korean/chinese-managed japanese restaurants that yell out japanese phrases and charge an exorbitant fee for mediocre to okayish food because they dress up their restaurants in fancy meiji-era decor and sell you the "authentic" card. then they blatantly talk to each other in korean/chinese because they think people don't know the difference

in front of customers i should add

you deserve to get ripped off tbqf

i never do :-)

they do get surprised when i talk to them in japanese and they can't speak a lick of it