oh Castro, go get yer shinebox
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2017 00:59 (seven years ago) link
what booooooooooooo castro
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 June 2017 01:12 (seven years ago) link
i wonder, cuz i have no idea what "Wanna" is
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:52 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It's "I Wanna Be Adored" by Stone Roses, 1991.
It's just "Wanna" on Youtube because I don't want copyright police to shut it down (though I guess they can just Shazam it, as the do with everything else.)
― pplains, Thursday, 1 June 2017 01:22 (seven years ago) link
Lol the organist is playing that's amore
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 01:47 (seven years ago) link
you wanted "Layla"?
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2017 06:13 (seven years ago) link
"Jump Into The Fire"
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 1 June 2017 13:33 (seven years ago) link
so this was pretty good
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link
confirmed good film
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:24 (seven years ago) link
this scorsese guy, I think he could really go places
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:25 (seven years ago) link
was sweet when the crowd clapped for Ballhaus' credit at the end. I did not stick around for the Marriage of Maria Braun, however (sorry Werner)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link
the pace of this movie is incredible, it's like the shortest two-and-a-half-hour movie ever made
― heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link
yeah I was really struck by that at the point where it circles back to the opening scene w Batts in the trunk - all this amazing stuff has flown by, one adrenaline rush after another for about 30 minutes (?) - and then bang oh yeah, here we are back at the beginning, where things start to *really* go wrong.
the final shots of him in suburbia still felt a bit abrupt. His betrayal/turning rat happens really quickly and while I love when he walks out of the docket and talks directly to the camera, it's a bit disconcerting that there's not a more dramatic denouement for Jimmy and Paulie besides the post-script text
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:34 (seven years ago) link
the suburbia stuff worked because it is so abrupt, in my opinion, and you can see how it would feel worse than prison for Hen-dry.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:37 (seven years ago) link
yeah, henry's been in freefall for a while and suburbia is the crash landing. it's all over for him and he's our pov, so why hang around to watch him clip coupons or wait in line at the post office or whatever?
― heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:42 (seven years ago) link
yeah you can always listen to Hill's '90s appearances on the Howard Stern show
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link
I didn't mean more shots of him being bored in suburbia I meant something that maybe leaned on the ramifications and fallout of his betrayal on the others
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:14 (seven years ago) link
one thing I did notice on rewatch that I hadn't thought about much before is how many children are in the movie - kids are constantly shown as (mostly) mute observers, helpless bystanders and occasionally helpless accomplices to the behavior of these psychos
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link
so this ones worth watching?
dude has released so much it looks like he poops it all out once a year
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:18 (seven years ago) link
well it's no Star Wars: The Force Blows Up a Death Star Pt VIII
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:43 (seven years ago) link
it is just like Inception tho
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link
sounds good enough
check out taxi driver if u haven't heard/seen it tho
pretty decent
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link
other random thought: the music cues in the coke bust sequence are crazy, in my memory that whole thing was just Jump Into the Fire, but there's like 7 or 8 songs all cut together through the whole thing
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link
From the GQ piece ∞ linked to in the Spinal Tap thread:
http://www.gq.com/story/spinal-tap-vs-hollywood
Consider producer Irwin Winkler's 2015 suit against Warner Bros., which stated he hadn't been paid his 50 percent share of the net profits from the 1990 Mob classic Goodfellas. According to the complaint, Warners sent periodic net-profit reports for a while (the studio eventually stopped, claiming the film would never, ever be in the black), but those reports intentionally misrepresented how much the film had made (allegedly more than $275 million). Winkler claimed that Warners had concealed about $140 million in revenue by playing a sort of shell game with its wholly owned subsidiary, Warner Home Video, and had also charged fees and interest on past fees. “This was ‘studio accounting’ on steroids,” the suit alleged. “It was also fraud.” Warners settled last year.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:05 (seven years ago) link
The film only did modest bizness at the box office; I would imagine home video turned it around.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link
lol *27* Sopranos castmembers were in this
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:39 (seven years ago) link
A favorite Scorsese cue nobody talks about: Syncing Henry's rejuvenating bump of coke to the 70s Waters/Winter version of "Mannish Boy".
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:48 (seven years ago) link
I love that he only uses the opening line of "Mannish Boy" and then segues into "What Is Life." And the "Magic Bus" edit/usage is perfect.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link
yeah Magic Bus is only in there for like 5 seconds!
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:00 (seven years ago) link
tarfumes
hollywood accounting right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link
Yep.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:15 (seven years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Thursday, June 1, 2017 5:14 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nah the looks from Paulie and Jimmy say it all, then Henry continues on from there just annoyed about his lack of access to decent Italian food. which says it all about him.
― nomar, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link
re-watching this really reaffirmed the parallels between this and WoWS, just this parade of psychopathic assholes driven by greed
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 22:02 (seven years ago) link
But the similarity ends there. One is spaghetti with marinara sauce, the other's egg noodles with ketchup.
― clemenza, Thursday, 1 June 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link
if WoWS is inferior it's because it's bloated/too long and the cast is not quite as great.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 22:19 (seven years ago) link
No real appetite for reviving something we exhausted three or four years ago, but for me the difference goes much, much deeper than that--it's Highway 61 vs. some useless mid-'80s Dylan album. (But bloated/too long, definitely.)
― clemenza, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:05 (seven years ago) link
I like WOWS as much as Empire Burlesque: tacky, bloated, probably unnecessary, but a lot of fun anyway.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:06 (seven years ago) link
forty minutes >>> 4211 minutes or however long WOWS is.
(I think it will be another 5-10 years before a consensus develops around how bad The Wolf of Wall Street really is. Gangs of New York got a lot of great reviews when it came out.)
― clemenza, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:07 (seven years ago) link
yeah I reject GONY without a second thought. The mustaches were the giveaway.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:10 (seven years ago) link
GONY with the Wind--a high-concept pitch that got cut from The Player.
― clemenza, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:12 (seven years ago) link
me too, never liked it. WoWS is great though.
xp
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:12 (seven years ago) link
GONY and WOWS are great fun but they're not watch-twice movies
― D'mnuchin returns (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:23 (seven years ago) link
GONY is an entertaining view, but a second viewing didn't do as much for me beyond some of the spectacle and a DDL performance that was eclipsed by two superficially similar roles, both his own in There Will be Blood and Ian McShane in Deadwood (lunatics with old timey facial hair.)
― nomar, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:56 (seven years ago) link
otoh WOWS is i think a genuinely excellent film
― nomar, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:57 (seven years ago) link
Wolf of Wall Street depressed the shit out of me for reasons I'm not entirely comfortable with. It made me worried for the same reasons that parents used to get worried about their kids watching violent horror or action movies, that it was going to produce a generation of violent sociopaths. I can seriously see this being the film that inspires a whole generation of future corporate assholes who like their money and coke plentiful and their women disposable. I hate taking this kind of moralistic stance towards a film, but that is what three hours in the company of these people did to me.
― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:18 (seven years ago) link
rest assured -- we'd never elect a violent sociopath as president
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:24 (seven years ago) link
Interesting history of Maurie the wig merchant http://mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Martin_Krugman
― calstars, Monday, 21 August 2017 03:31 (seven years ago) link
Krugman was unable to drive. His wife would drive him wherever he needed to be.
"Maybe we should let him drive."
― pplains, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:45 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3fU_nrrxeA
― pplains, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 01:01 (six years ago) link
lmao
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 01:06 (six years ago) link