I mean he is 1000% otm on the carbon tax
― frogbs, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:53 (nine years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY
― the ghost of markers, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 18:20 (nine years ago)
To mark rejection of Paris accords, Antarctica about to calve a Wales-sized iceberg, one of largest ever recorded https://t.co/CFctzJFEhb— Bill McKibben (@billmckibben) May 31, 2017
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:29 (nine years ago)
bigger big-league bergs
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:31 (nine years ago)
SAVE THE WALES
― heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:33 (nine years ago)
i can't believe i tweeted a correction at bill mckibben but i had to. the article says it was the size of Delaware (1,930 sq miles) which is about a quarter the size of Wales (8,023 sq miles). I guess he meant that the iceberg was about the length of Wales. anyway, oof
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:34 (nine years ago)
SAVE THE DELAWALES
― heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:35 (nine years ago)
thank you!— Bill McKibben (@billmckibben) May 31, 2017
i want to ride around on bill mckibben's ankle like fievel in a shirtpocket
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:37 (nine years ago)
I remember when icebergs the size of Manhattan were a big deal.
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 21:06 (nine years ago)
*heavy sigh*
Trump calls mayor of shrinking Chesapeake island and tells him not to worry about it
― cast your vote for fully automated gay space luxury communism (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:41 (nine years ago)
“He said we shouldn’t worry about rising sea levels,” Eskridge said. “He said that ‘your island has been there for hundreds of years, and I believe your island will be there for hundreds more.’”Eskridge wasn’t offended. In fact, he agreed that rising sea levels aren’t a problem for Tangier.“Like the president, I’m not concerned about sea level rise,” he said. “I’m on the water daily, and I just don’t see it.”
Eskridge wasn’t offended. In fact, he agreed that rising sea levels aren’t a problem for Tangier.
“Like the president, I’m not concerned about sea level rise,” he said. “I’m on the water daily, and I just don’t see it.”
makes sense
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:48 (nine years ago)
starting to think that dilbert dipshit might be on to something about trump's hypnotic powers
― cast your vote for fully automated gay space luxury communism (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:52 (nine years ago)
another post hat makes me want to move to Canada - in this case because it will be the only place with snow in the future and not 140 degrees in summer
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 19:20 (nine years ago)
It's not hypnotic powers. Most if not all here on ilxor are complex personalities, ensconced like an onion with something approximating Freud's Id, Ego, and Superego. Some further than themselves with irony or deadpan humor about the human predicament.
Trump's onion has a rather thin, if any cortex. He's just a grasping Id, little burnished by education or curiosity. Most with this defect go unseen by the educated classes, as they don't make it through the socioeconomic filters.
But there are millions like him, just exposed ids awaiting someone to articulate their resentments and desires. As many Americans confuse wealth with virtue, Trump's largely inherited wealth insulated him from moral critique.
As this is the climate thread, I think we who are concerned about climate, about effects that linger for thousands of years, need to start speaking to these unfilted ids. I care about those billions living (or not) in the year 3000. That's perhaps why those on the national security side (from DoD reports to Obama) have started talking about future refugee crises, because if slow sea rise doesn't scare the recalcitrant, perhaps a deluge of brown people will.
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 19:44 (nine years ago)
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55736/climate-change-storms-scott-pruitt/
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 16:55 (nine years ago)
yayyy!
Scientists have spent decades measuring what was happening to all of the carbon dioxide that was produced when people burned coal, oil and natural gas. They established that less than half of the gas was remaining in the atmosphere and warming the planet. The rest was being absorbed by the ocean and the land surface, in roughly equal amounts.In essence, these natural sponges were doing humanity a huge service by disposing of much of its gaseous waste. But as emissions have risen higher and higher, it has been unclear how much longer the natural sponges will be able to keep up.
In essence, these natural sponges were doing humanity a huge service by disposing of much of its gaseous waste. But as emissions have risen higher and higher, it has been unclear how much longer the natural sponges will be able to keep up.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/26/climate/carbon-in-atmosphere-is-rising-even-as-emissions-stabilize.html?platform=hootsuite&_r=1
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:44 (eight years ago)
three years till the point of no return. good thing mr. trump is in the white house and mr. pruitt heading the EPA
https://www.nature.com/news/three-years-to-safeguard-our-climate-1.22201?dom=icopyright&src=syn
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 29 June 2017 02:55 (eight years ago)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/06/29/iran-city-soars-to-record-of-129-degrees-near-hottest-ever-reliably-measured-on-earth/?utm_term=.3a1ec637f002 🔥🔥🔥
― Jeff, Friday, 30 June 2017 09:46 (eight years ago)
The Earth has experienced five mass extinctions before the one we are living through now, each so complete a slate-wiping of the evolutionary record it functioned as a resetting of the planetary clock, and many climate scientists will tell you they are the best analog for the ecological future we are diving headlong into. Unless you are a teenager, you probably read in your high-school textbooks that these extinctions were the result of asteroids. In fact, all but the one that killed the dinosaurs were caused by climate change produced by greenhouse gas. The most notorious was 252 million years ago; it began when carbon warmed the planet by five degrees, accelerated when that warming triggered the release of methane in the Arctic, and ended with 97 percent of all life on Earth dead. We are currently adding carbon to the atmosphere at a considerably faster rate; by most estimates, at least ten times faster. The rate is accelerating. This is what Stephen Hawking had in mind when he said, this spring, that the species needs to colonize other planets in the next century to survive, and what drove Elon Musk, last month, to unveil his plans to build a Mars habitat in 40 to 100 years. These are nonspecialists, of course, and probably as inclined to irrational panic as you or I. But the many sober-minded scientists I interviewed over the past several months — the most credentialed and tenured in the field, few of them inclined to alarmism and many advisers to the IPCC who nevertheless criticize its conservatism — have quietly reached an apocalyptic conclusion, too: No plausible program of emissions reductions alone can prevent climate disaster.Related StoriesWhen Did Humans Doom the Earth for Good?
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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/climate-change-earth-too-hot-for-humans.html
SWEET DREAMS
― Karl Malone, Monday, 10 July 2017 04:04 (eight years ago)
sooo...we arming up for the revolution or nah?
― nice cage (m bison), Monday, 10 July 2017 04:58 (eight years ago)
https://lastexittonowhere.imgix.net/uploads/catalogue/productimage-picture-quietus-regular-t-shirt-5955.jpg
― bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 July 2017 10:14 (eight years ago)
S'okay.
Cancer now more common than getting married or having a first baby.
― полезные дурак (Sanpaku), Monday, 10 July 2017 20:08 (eight years ago)
If The Graduate were remade in 2017, there's a decent chance that when the young hero is pulled aside by the middle-aged man and told the secret word describing the path to making big money, it wouldn't be "plastics", but "cancer".
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 10 July 2017 22:49 (eight years ago)
Editors of PNAS usually less fretful.
Ceballosa et al, 2017. Biological annihilation via the ongoing sixth mass extinction signaled by vertebrate population losses and declines. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. doi: 10.1073/pnas.1704949114
― полезные дурак (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 15:25 (eight years ago)
if this even happened, it was probably chinese dynamite that did it
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/07/trillion-tonne-iceberg-breaks-antarctica-170712095845744.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 13:25 (eight years ago)
underrated album imho
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 14:32 (eight years ago)
forgotten kung-fu exploitation picture from the 70s iirc
― ﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 15:06 (eight years ago)
An iceberg of 5800 square kilometers!
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 16:16 (eight years ago)
i. c. e. b. e. r. g.what's that spell? iceberg baby can't you read?
― popcorn michael awaits trumptweet (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 17:31 (eight years ago)
A small thing, but
https://www.buzzfeed.com/zahrahirji/lamar-smith-tours-the-arctic
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 July 2017 12:56 (eight years ago)
Oh cool my rep *barfs*
― nice cage (m bison), Friday, 14 July 2017 13:46 (eight years ago)
This also sounds like some good news:
Seaweed shown to reduce 99% methane from cattle
― DJI, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 23:22 (eight years ago)
the David Wallace-Wells series has been unavoidable and immiserating in the extreme
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 00:19 (eight years ago)
Immiserating is a word that David Foster Wallace would use.
I've commented on the article (and its annotated version) on other forums. Its on the extreme side, and though its explicit that its presenting worst case scenarios (business as usual, long term, lower probability), some climate scientists have come out attacking it for being alarmist. Frankly, conservative IPCC reports aren't getting through, weather casters ascribing mildly catastrophic weather events to climate change isn't getting through, so maybe its time for alarums. I've already encountered everything it reports studying climate change and mass extinction events in the geological record.
As for myself, I can't imagine how humanity exits the 21st century with more than 5 billion considering multiple environmental/resource issues, which entails a lot of future suffering. I'd raise the alarm all the time were there appropriate venues, but yesterday I attended my brother's baby shower and smiled benignly.
― полезные дурак (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 01:32 (eight years ago)
Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX), noted climate change denier and chair of the House Science Committee, on Monday penned an eyebrow-raising op-ed that argued there are “benefits” to a changing climate.“The benefits of a changing climate are often ignored and under-researched. Our climate is too complex and the consequences of misguided policies too harsh to discount the positive effects of carbon enrichment,” Smith wrote in an op-ed for The Daily Signal, a website run by the conservative Heritage Foundation.Smith acknowledged that the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is increasing and argued that it would help plant growth and farming. He also posited that sea ice melting in the Arctic would open up new shipping routes, spinning ice melt as a positive change for the Earth.
“The benefits of a changing climate are often ignored and under-researched. Our climate is too complex and the consequences of misguided policies too harsh to discount the positive effects of carbon enrichment,” Smith wrote in an op-ed for The Daily Signal, a website run by the conservative Heritage Foundation.
Smith acknowledged that the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is increasing and argued that it would help plant growth and farming. He also posited that sea ice melting in the Arctic would open up new shipping routes, spinning ice melt as a positive change for the Earth.
nopehttps://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-positives-negatives-basic.htm
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 17:50 (eight years ago)
so sad that the place where i found the article about smith's comments (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lamar-smith-benefits-climate-change) didn't bother to mention WHY he was completely wrong. all they did was call it "eyebrow-raising" and put "benefits" in quotation marks.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 17:51 (eight years ago)
Yeah, one thing his constituents need in Texas is hotter weather and less rain.
― nickn, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 20:28 (eight years ago)
lamar smith is my MC and i want him to drink bleach
― nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 21:31 (eight years ago)
read it and weep:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/07/climate/document-Draft-of-the-Climate-Science-Special-Report.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
also, your dog is killing us all:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/19316/ucla-climate-change-study-has-some-very-bad-news-james-barrett#
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 20:19 (eight years ago)
Technically, V-dog exists. The chow I feed my dog is largely potatoes and/or rice, with chicken meat by products for flavoring. He gets leftovers. I doubt dog food competes with the human demand for steaks/hamburger.
― #IMPOTUS (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 22:11 (eight years ago)
from the grauniad
The small Louisiana town of Cameron could be the first in the US to be fully submerged by rising sea levels – and yet locals, 90% of whom voted for Trump, still aren’t convinced about climate change
some highlights:
For 10 years, Smith was a truck driver, which gave her a particular vantage point from which to observe the coast. “I think the coast is disappearing, I really do. Because I traveled this road so much, driving for the oil fields. By the way it looks, it looks like the water is getting closer and closer.”But Smith stops short of offering an explanation. “I really don’t know what is causing it, I don’t know what you’d call it – erosion? I guess it’s probably caused by climate change, but I don’t really believe in the concept.
But Smith stops short of offering an explanation. “I really don’t know what is causing it, I don’t know what you’d call it – erosion? I guess it’s probably caused by climate change, but I don’t really believe in the concept.
“If you go by what the real scientists say, there’s no proof. In the last 10 years the average temperature of the world hasn’t even risen a half degree. And if you listen to everyone talking it, it’s up five or 10 degrees. And it’s not true! It’s a political thing. How much money has Al Gore made off global warming?,” he laughs, shaking his head with a cackle. “It ain’t happened yet!”
“Do I think it is climate change? That’s hard,” she says, smiling. Theriot seems caught between her job as a science educator and her life as a longtime Cameron resident, tasked with teaching about the environment in a fiercely red town.“From a scientific perspective ... data is manipulated all the time. So whoever is interpreting the data, as much as you try to not have a bias, you could still have a bias. Of course, I am going to be more proactive about coastal restoration and protections because it is directly affecting me, so for me, looking at the data, I am very very worried.” She relents: “But I think the data is incomplete. And I am still not sure about climate change. I am still researching it. I feel like I don’t have enough good sources to say yes or no on if climate change is a real thing.”
“From a scientific perspective ... data is manipulated all the time. So whoever is interpreting the data, as much as you try to not have a bias, you could still have a bias. Of course, I am going to be more proactive about coastal restoration and protections because it is directly affecting me, so for me, looking at the data, I am very very worried.” She relents: “But I think the data is incomplete. And I am still not sure about climate change. I am still researching it. I feel like I don’t have enough good sources to say yes or no on if climate change is a real thing.”
― licking the yellow Toad next to the teleporter (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 August 2017 11:54 (eight years ago)
“If you go by what the real scientists say, there’s no proof. In the last 10 years the average temperature of the world hasn’t even risen a half degree. And if you listen to everyone talking it, it’s up five or 10 degrees.
hoo boy. a big part of the problem is that many people have failed to achieve even basic science literacy (or another way to put it, we have failed to provide our people with basic science literacy), and then those people "debate" each other and get incredibly confused, mixed in with rush limbaugh people screaming deliberately misleading things at them on the radio
― Karl Malone, Friday, 18 August 2017 15:45 (eight years ago)
we have failed to provide our people with basic science literacy
Included in "people" are science teachers, apparently. D:
― Leee Media Naranja (Leee), Saturday, 19 August 2017 00:27 (eight years ago)
Blind. Deaf. Dumb.
The Trump administration just disbanded a federal advisory committee on climate change
The committee was established to help translate findings from the National Climate Assessment into concrete guidance for both public and private-sector officials. Seattle Mayor Ed Murray (D) said in an interview Saturday that the move to dissolve the committee represents “an example of the president not leading, and the president stepping away from reality.” An official from Seattle Public Utilities has been serving on the panel; with its disbanding, Murray said it would now be “more difficult” for cities to participate in the climate assessment. On climate change, Trump “has left us all individually to figure it out.”
Seattle Mayor Ed Murray (D) said in an interview Saturday that the move to dissolve the committee represents “an example of the president not leading, and the president stepping away from reality.” An official from Seattle Public Utilities has been serving on the panel; with its disbanding, Murray said it would now be “more difficult” for cities to participate in the climate assessment. On climate change, Trump “has left us all individually to figure it out.”
― tactical piñata (Sanpaku), Sunday, 20 August 2017 19:35 (eight years ago)
the free market will pay for it. privatize the profits; socialize the losses :)
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a57276/harvey-longterm-effects/
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 17:10 (eight years ago)
As it happens, Harvey has killed an estimated 44 Texans and forced some 32,000 into shelters since it struck, a week ago. That is a catastrophe for every one of those individuals, of course. Still, those figures look small alongside the havoc wreaked by flooding across southern Asia during the very same period. In the past few days, more than 1,200 people have been killed, and the lives of some 40 million others turned upside down, by torrential rain in northern India, southern Nepal, northern Bangladesh and southern Pakistan.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/01/disaster-texas-america-britain-yemen
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 2 September 2017 15:33 (eight years ago)
I just realized that anything happening in Bangladesh is automatically going to affect more people than the same thing happening anywhere else.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 September 2017 15:45 (eight years ago)
Does anyone have a recommendation for reading up on the various geo-engineering options?
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 3 September 2017 14:54 (eight years ago)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraforming_of_Venus
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 3 September 2017 15:05 (eight years ago)
step one of terraforming venus seems u&k
Reducing Venus's surface temperature of 462 °C (864 °F).
― Wesley Shackleton explained "look at that beast." (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 3 September 2017 15:17 (eight years ago)