They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

Lol

"I want to be devoured by mosquitoes and then see a film reducing my will to live."

David the Android: "...so my little creations would be...a release?"

i hated prometheus with all my heart but i liked this

You and Alfred, fighting the tide.

i mean it's just a horror movie surrounding a weird explicitly queer star trek-y middle. fassbender vs. fassbender is the best ridley scott film in years imo

ppl were like "wow the crew in this movie is the dumbest yet" but nah other than the lady who broke quarantine and fired on a bunch of oxygen tanks no way do they make dumber decisions than anyone in prometheus

Imagine if Cronenberg had cast Fassbender as Freud and Jung.

naked fassbender or just the regular one?

All Fassbender is Naked Fassbender

ppl were like "wow the crew in this movie is the dumbest yet" but nah other than the lady who broke quarantine and fired on a bunch of oxygen tanks no way do they make dumber decisions than anyone in prometheus

Bad robot: hey captain come peer into this monster egg I promise it isn't a monster egg

Captain: ok well I just found out you're the bad guy so *sticks entire face right the fuck into the monster egg*

^^^as dumb as any of the decisions in prometheus, maybe. dumber? no

lol fair, I'd say the same of the woman who shot up the oxygen tanks actually - all about equally dumb

Bad robot: hey captain come peer into this monster egg I promise it isn't a monster egg

Captain: ok well I just found out you're the bad guy so *sticks entire face right the fuck into the monster egg*

― in a soylent whey (wins), Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:02 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

eh, i'll allow it if it causes billy crudup to die horribly

as a friend said, at least there wasn't an unmotivated suicide in this one

Crudup was beautiful once.

also i'm pretty inured to horror movie logic so "peering into something that is obviously going to kill you" is fine with me in a way that, say, "charlize theron gets flattened by a spaceship bc she's only capable of running in a straight line" isn't

i revisited prometheus before watching the new one, the anger is fresh

I went to the local theater that has the beer/food delivered to your seat and they seat you early to get orders, and show a reel of material related to the movie. Included was one of those youtube "honest reviews" or w/e for Prometheus, which would normally drive me nuts because it's nitpicking, but with Prometheus... they were pretty on point

Which was the unmotivated suicide?

idris elba sacrificing himself and two other undeveloped crew members by flying the prometheus straight into the side of the engineer's ship... because....noomi rapace said it was a bad ship????

He'd already seen the armaments by then, and had a conversation with her about how that ship could never reach earth.

(I assumed you meant The Boy with the Worm in his Eye)

yes i also remember the scene where idris started speaking in pure exposition

ugh

thrilled that covenant doesn't follow up on "why did that one guy turn into a wolf zombie"

so is it too explained, or unexplained? it can't be both (lol or maybe it can)

in re new one, yes the captain is egregiously stupid but it's very baked into his character and the script

so is it too explained, or unexplained? it can't be both (lol or maybe it can)

i mean, maybe i was really tired when i watched prometheus the other day but imo yeah it totally can bc the character relationships are so arbitrary and unformed

i saw prometheus on t.v. long after it had come out and had zero expectations and i was probably drunk and i didn't mind it. remember thinking a movie about the alien dudes and no earthlings would have been cool.

How about a movie about the alien dudes and just a few earthlings?
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i'm just always hoping to see a big budget sci-fi movie where the cast doesn't look like it just got off the hollywood freeway 20 minutes before a scene was filmed. but that's mostly what you get. stupid american generics who sound like they are from 1992 and their ship.

i liked that one about the monoliths that land on earth. except for all the people in the movie.

was good fassbender's accent supposed to be generic american or irish?

when will they finally make an Alien movie where the characters all make smart choices, avoid danger and get to their destination safely?!

Alien: Avoid

lol Darin

Once again, the people generally make smart decisions, and at the very least make in-character ones. That this isn't enough to get them all out alive is part of what makes the alien so terrifying! The Covenant crew seem like they'd have ended up the same way faced with the rascally rodent from "Mouse Hunt." So, not such a fun summer horror movie.

ER I mean "the people in the original Alien"

see, for me, the awful choices and general dumbness of the characters just adds to the nightmarish sense of dread. maybe I'm just more eager to dump my suspension of disbelief for this franchise I dunno.

or I should say hold on to my suspension of disbelief

I mean if you genuinely can't see a difference between wanting characters who are infallible and wanting ones who can turn left, if those two things look the same from where you are standing... I have a mission for you

the only thing that REALLY bugged me was the very end w/whatsherface hopping in her sleep chamber all willy nilly w/out questioning Walter/David

Dude I'm such a moron it literally never occurred to me

I was like "Why does Walter seem slightly amused by this alien chase"

haha

I immediately thought, when "Walter" emerged from the fight with David, "IT'S DAVID!!! WATCH OUT!!"

I was starting to question whether they actually let Walter win, but then remembered that David had a really strong case to play the long game -- thousands of humans and embryos for experiment fodder. So, no matter how nice he seemed or how scorched his arm looked, I knew that fucker was David

walter turning evil would have been a better twist. also funnier if walter ended up severing david's head and smuggling it back with him.

It's kind of a cheat, we don't know for sure if Walter is dead or just incapacitated when they leave the planet. So there's the opportunity to continue from this movie with Fassbender once again being the only recurring actor

Guy Pearce is in both films too

I'd blocked out that awkward David intro

tbh i love that intro

I liked it, but Ridley's tendency to do these mood pieces and then jam them in at random spots is not so hot

Was there a suggestion that Demian Bichir and the guy who spawned the second alien were a couple, or did I make that up? Rest of the crew was couples, and those two seemed to have a moment.

it's implicit iirc

What if this film and Prometheus are about not only the production of aliens as a species but of Alien as a franchise

And thus our protagonists are Walter (Hill) and David (Giler)?