The stars turn: the TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread

I was hoping to read the plot synopsis on wikipedia butnto tehre yet - come on internet!

Maybe he should have called it Hooters.

works on several levels

Found it hilarious that the dialog when Denise was talking to Gordon about Chrysta Bell's character sounded like it was from an episode of Decker.

Otherwise I loved this. The box, the opening scenes of episode 3 and bad coop vomiting in the car were exactly the kind of 'eat my fear' nightmare I was hoping for.

obvious point, but i love how the box is really the camera. i loved that scene where the stoic top secret guy without emotions and the horny coffee delivery person start to get it on, with the big box/camera watching them, and the earth cameras in turn trained on the box camera. it was like a documentary about a documentary about a director filming a really weird porno

one cool thing about the sound design: when gordon and albert are having the conversation in ep 4 i thought something was wrong with my speakers whenever lynch spoke, but it's the metallic echo of his hearing aids

I've watched the first 4 eps, and unless I'm missing something, they haven't directly followed up to what was going on between those two guys in Las Vegas in episode 2, have they?

afaik no

He enjoys a Police Academy marathon every couple of months but that's about it.

That was either one of the giant's clues or I posted in in the wrong thread.

I think my favorite scene so far (aside from the thrill of the re-enacted 'sometimes my arms bend back' scene) was the entire beginning of episode 3 with the purple glitchy shit and the eyeless woman and the non-ronette pulaski. It looked new, and different, but having cooper in it made it feel firmly of-a-part. less enamoured with the scene once he and the woman were outside in the starless void but everything up to that was pretty thrilling.

i love how the box is really the camera

To push it a little farther, it's the camera and the screen at the same time. The watched watching the watchers. [mind-blown gif]

exactly!

there are so many new scenes that already seem like instant classics, but the entire mystery box setup hasn't left my mind since it first came on

also - i guess that evil force that came through the box and murdered the horny people is on the loose in south dakota now?

Love the box and Lynch's continual fascination with industrial set aesthetics. Made me think of Silent Hill which Lynch influenced

Have finished through ep 4 now and am over the moon about this, feel like I could paint some shovels gold I'm so happy.

(David Foster Wallace would have loved the box, it feels like something out of a James Incandenza movie.)

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, May 22, 2017 3:01 PM (five hours ago)

I think this is really spot-on.

The evil force from the box was Mike's arm's doppelganger, right?

(haven't seen eps 3&4)

"I am the arm and I sound like this... *garbl garbl*" <3

Only just seen 1&2, but yeah, this is... quite something. Mind-blowing stuff, fantastic cinematography, and I watched it with headphones on. No wonder Lynch is doing sound design himself: superb how nearly every scene is layered with a deep drone, different from any other scene.

Patrick Fischler's role felt as if it could've been a straight continuation from his Mulholland Drive. In a suit now, but danger still looming, him dealing with someone you wouldn't ever want to deal with. Love that guy so much.

And then ending it with the Chromatics.. Boy, I'm probably not alone in this but that felt especially for me.

One random thought: with the X-Files reboot, after so many years, the use of modern technology was this big thing, I like that here it isn't. There's smart phones now, Bad Coop uses something like a tablet to get into the FBI system, but it's all very unassuming and 'normal', without emphasis on it.

Catherine Coulson absolutely broke my heart. I've never seen anything like her emotion delivering those cryptic lines, and what it must have been like for her and Lynch to film them.

Yeah that was gut wrenching

xpost i thought bad coop's hacking scene was so great because of how unmodern the tech was! it had a 2000s era Windows logo on the side, and a really big "DOWNLOAD" button on the right side of the display, off-centered.

No Zach I agree! But it didn't look 'clunky' or - worse - pretended to be hyper modern either. I love how unmodern it is. X-Files2 struggled with this as they wanted to show the works and failed miserably.

(Disclosure: I do actually want to believe an FBI login and download button today, in 2017, looks exactly like it was screened on this show)

that's probably a question for El Tombot and he'd probably tell you they do look like that

i think Lynch is struggling with using technology in TP world and Lucy not being able to wrap her head around cell phones is the personification of this. that WIN95 style graphics was A+.

Only two episodes in but they really held over the scene of Twin Peaks in relative normality for as long as they possibly could, didn't they?

2000s era Windows logo on the side, and a really big "DOWNLOAD" button on the right side of the display, off-centered.

As I kinda predicted elsewhere, the best possible prep for this new season wound up being FWWM and the Adult Swim "infomercials"

i was waiting for someone to reference the hacking of a mainframe! so good

I did not fully understand his reference to meeting with Jeffries and the Major (if that gets resolved in 3/4 n/m)

xpost i thought bad coop's hacking scene was so great because of how unmodern the tech was! it had a 2000s era Windows logo on the side, and a really big "DOWNLOAD" button on the right side of the display, off-centered.

― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 07:55 (thirty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it looked like one of these but with a windows logo on the long edge (perhaps moved into view so they'd get a kickback from microsoft). the cludgy graphics were bang on and not unlike the cludgy graphics i'm used to from the more cumbersome aus gov departments.

bits of the download flashing onto the screen seemed... odd, though. i get why from a film-making perspective (spice up what's happening for the viewer etc) but in real life it's not a thing, especially when downloading something from an intelligence outfit. this sort of thing always bothers me though.

Whatever assorted narrative ends it serves, it's also part of his ongoing meta-narrative about cinema and perception, who's watching whom, etc.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:58 (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ah yeah. he even opened fwwm with a shot of someone smashing a tv as if to say "this is not the show, you are not watching a tv, let's get on with it".

"I did not fully understand his reference to meeting with Jeffries and the Major"

no that was weird; well, I think evilcoop believes he's speaking with Philip Jeffries on that call. Presumably Jeffries has also gone bad (because he says he wants to be with bob). The meeting with Briggs I think is in reference to how Briggs died (in a fire, right after coop came out of the black lodge after the series ended, which is references in the book and also mentioned, again, in ep 4 I think, though I didn't see that yet). But I can't quite recall exactly what the voice on the call said; and it's def not Bowie's voice, but also doesn't even sound remotely like the voice he did, so maybe it was someone/something else.

The only thing I didn't like was evilcoop saying "i'm supposed to be sucked back into what they call the black lodge". too on the nose, sounds like Frost's book, blah.

I did not fully understand his reference to meeting with Jeffries and the Major (if that gets resolved in 3/4 n/m)

I'm not sure it does.. can someone explain what Albert told Bowie that caused someone to die?

xpost

Maybe it's good David Lynch, but it's not good Twin Peaks. Perhaps once everyone gets back to Twin Peaks and normal Agent Cooper returns... he anchored the show. When he's adrift, it's just too hard to watch.

― erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 01:07 (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i agree re cooper (if he's in it, he needs to be in it), but the essence of twin peaks was how groundbreaking it was at the time. it reset expectations of what can be done on television. if this new show were good twin peaks, it wouldn't be much else.

imo this show does an immaculate job of being good-twin-peaks by being like nothing we've ever seen (and not feeling in any way like a throwback or a lazy reunion), while promising to continue the world and the story.

The only thing I didn't like was evilcoop saying "i'm supposed to be sucked back into what they call the black lodge". too on the nose, sounds like Frost's book, blah.

haha yeah I also thought that was a bit *too* much exposition

xp

he said "it's raining Post Toasties" clearly this is the line that the new series hinges on

i think Lynch is struggling with using technology in TP world and Lucy not being able to wrap her head around cell phones is the personification of this. that WIN95 style graphics was A+.

― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 08:03 (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe i'm trying too hard (again) but are they also telling us the town of twin peaks hasn't moved on but the show (and the world) has? like saying to the viewer "this is why we're spending more time outside the town now"?

major briggs floating head

why don't i remember this? i'm going back through the episodes and i still can't find it.

nm got it

Sound design is incredible. Eyeless woman scene was great

Was the eyeless woman Caroline Earle?

Finished all 4 and - man - this is all I could've asked for: scary, hilarious and just plain beautiful to look at and listen to.

Bad Cooper sounding like a '50s Martian during the jail convo scene lol.

eyeless woman had a name in the credits that wasn't anything thta related to anything before (I'd thought she was maybe going to wind up being josie). also, ronette pulaski was credited as 'american woman' or something

well i guess zoller seitz was otm

god the slicing noises when the woman with no eyes gestures at her neck are so unsettling, not helped by the "two steps forward, one step back" editing rhythm

just finished the first two episodes. it was really good. i love the humor in the glass box. yes for a good chunk of time we are watching someone stare at an empty box waiting for something to happen. trenchant.

really loving Evil Cooper. he looks alot like Bruce Campbell!

James took me by surprise at the end. i had no idea that was him!

did anyone else notice the zig-zags were painted red? i thought they had always been black before. also i loved having the zags shifting up and down in 3d.