It's really tragic for both Valentina AND Nina. The elimination was the direct result of both Nina's crippling self-doubt and Valentina's blind self-confidence. And if Valentina's embarrassment was a stinging shock, Nina's going to be taking more than her share of the burden of fan fallout.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Saturday, 20 May 2017 17:41 (nine years ago)
I just don't get, like.... CLEARLY Valentina was supposed to slay Nina and send her home, and we've had people in the bottom two like this many many times before and the stronger person has always knocked it out of the park, how is this anyone's fault but V's?
― he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 20 May 2017 17:53 (nine years ago)
Logic doesn't exactly prevail when you're dealing with a show that trades in so much artifice.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:01 (nine years ago)
Anyway, you're exactly right. The untucked ep shows Nina more or less stuffing the earbud into Valentina's ear to learn the song
Next episode after this should have Ru's last warning be "Good luck...and don't make me fuck YOU up."
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:03 (nine years ago)
"I thought you had what it took to go all the way." Just brutal.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:05 (nine years ago)
ok i havent watched untucked yet but O_O
on the one hand, shocking... on the other hand, be prepared & come to play 24/7 or your ass is going home no matter how cute or polished you are
valentina ya fucked it up. byeeeeeee
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:49 (nine years ago)
also most queens who make it even past the first 4 or 5 episodes wind up being big enough in their own right on the RPDR circuit for a few years but like how do you bounce back from this? Inevitably this will define her from here on out
I think, eventually, she'll be able to leave it behind her (Phi Phi *almost* pulled it off), because a pretty face buys a lot of leeway. It won't be easy, of course, but a lot of people are going to give her the benefit of the doubt (rightly or wrongly). All that said: entirely inexcusable. At least she owned up to it.
Any hate spilled onto Nina is entirely stupid (while she and Valentina both contributed to falling into the bottom two, nothing Nina did DURING the lipsync made Valentina unprepared), but then don't bet against stupidity on the Internet and of the people.
OK but let's talk about Sasha and Shea! Yay!
― Bashir-Worf Hypothesis (Leee), Saturday, 20 May 2017 19:25 (nine years ago)
omg they were so good
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 May 2017 19:37 (nine years ago)
Saw a comment that it was almost like an audition for their own WOW Presents series. Would watch.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 May 2017 19:59 (nine years ago)
totally. they have great chemistry
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 May 2017 20:12 (nine years ago)
I do love their chemistry a ton. Tho I do think Sasha's Russian act suffers from having to follow Katya.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Saturday, 20 May 2017 21:11 (nine years ago)
idk, that seems like a reach as a criticism
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 May 2017 21:28 (nine years ago)
https://i1.wp.com/www.towleroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/tumblr_oq84f72RUa1qlvwnco1_500.gif?resize=500%2C281
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 May 2017 22:15 (nine years ago)
also in other news i really like John Polly's recaps
https://youtu.be/DancDHS0o48
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 May 2017 22:20 (nine years ago)
oh no I really hate him :(
― he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 20 May 2017 23:00 (nine years ago)
but i have a knee-jerk hatred of hot gay men who think that they're hot/funny/interesting and also i project a lot so
― he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 20 May 2017 23:01 (nine years ago)
Bring back Pandora Boxx
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 May 2017 23:01 (nine years ago)
he reminds me of popular gay ppl i've met at parties and bars and stuff who I'm introduced to and are rly standoffish and snobby, did i mention i project a lot?
― he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 20 May 2017 23:02 (nine years ago)
he was a bit too "caricature of a flaming queen" at first but i love his references & i dig his sense of humor
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 May 2017 23:04 (nine years ago)
ugh otm stevie
― clouds, Monday, 22 May 2017 01:14 (nine years ago)
i think valentina will be ok. it was shocking and sad in the way stevie describes but i think people recognize her talent, and she wasn't defiant or arrogant about her lip sync disaster like charlie hides. it was a very human failing, people usually empathize with that. also i think i read something about her being pretty popular anyway.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 23 May 2017 03:54 (nine years ago)
sad for the show tho. i think she was really talented and unique and i hope she gets brought back on the inevitable next edition of all stars.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 23 May 2017 03:55 (nine years ago)
production crew makeovers in the new ep this week 😃
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 16:38 (nine years ago)
have to say i'm not dreading this episode
http://i.imgur.com/UQJvNri.jpg
― he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 16:56 (nine years ago)
yeah i saw a clip & the crew are all p cute
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 16:58 (nine years ago)
No one will ever top Detox's military makeover sister.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:11 (nine years ago)
Well, I mean, probably someone has and/or will top her *in that sense*
*badumtish*
Also if you see an advance and even breathe a word about it we will hunt you down.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:17 (nine years ago)
After reddit leaked #maskgate last week, I'm not sure I'll get episodes as quickly from here on out.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:27 (nine years ago)
oh good
― clouds, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 19:22 (nine years ago)
So now that we've all had a few days...who's your top three *now*?
(I would not be unhappy with Shea, Sasha and Peppermint.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 22:06 (nine years ago)
^^^
― clouds, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 22:13 (nine years ago)
yep to that! i wouldnt be mad if trinity was top 3, i like her more & more. I love Pep but seems like she could go either way at this point? like she could blow us all away or flame out totally
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 22:27 (nine years ago)
Alexis needs to get the heave-ho next AFAIC
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 22:34 (nine years ago)
is it just me (tm) or is the talent pool not very deep this season? I don't really love any of these queens that are left.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 22:36 (nine years ago)
You terrible person.
Way upthread a couple of years back or so, the big change was noted in that there's very little emphasis on creating something in the work room to wear anymore. It's the one element I would change back -- you can tell people already have their costumes and things brought to bear.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 22:38 (nine years ago)
otm
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 23:00 (nine years ago)
Blame Willow.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 23:23 (nine years ago)
Er, Willam
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 23:24 (nine years ago)
http://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5580/49/16x9/960.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 23:27 (nine years ago)
i'm in2 Shea, Sasha, and either Peppermint or Trinity in the top 3. Alexis is terrible and I have to say I'm really fucking disappointed with Nina's shitty-ass attitude.
― he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 23:27 (nine years ago)
Anyone who bombs the Snatch Game is always going to be fighting an uphill battle with me, so even tho Pep has grown on me, I'm not ready to declare her top 3
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 23:45 (nine years ago)
i understand & am sympathetic to Nina but she is down *so* deep mentally that it's just translating as bad tv
i mean even Shea is giving up on her. at least Trinity K Bonet had a turning point before she went home
i still keep rooting for Nina tho. this seems like pretty much all she has & she's so good when she's performing
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 23:55 (nine years ago)
wow, that was bleak
― he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 27 May 2017 01:03 (nine years ago)
It was a long time coming, regrettably.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Saturday, 27 May 2017 01:09 (nine years ago)
Also, Sarge camping it up as Peppermint's sister lifted me up.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Saturday, 27 May 2017 01:10 (nine years ago)
yeah, it was a long time coming for sure, but I'm really bummed it ended *that way*
― he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 27 May 2017 01:11 (nine years ago)
but apart from the elimination this episode was SO FUN
And, damn, Ru only hires blazingly (if boringly) hot PA's on this show.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Saturday, 27 May 2017 01:13 (nine years ago)