Kmart's lease at the site doesn't expire until 2053.
what the hell
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:36 (nine years ago)
i know, it's wild
― goole, Thursday, 18 May 2017 03:02 (nine years ago)
is that the one where the road runs into the parking lot? maybe people accidentally drive in and figure they'll do some shopping
― mh, Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:05 (nine years ago)
it's the worst
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:06 (nine years ago)
I really wonder how a pretty notable street came to stop, turn into a k-mart, and then continue
― mh, Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:09 (nine years ago)
The city has tried unsuccessfully to reach an agreement with Kmart that would allow Nicollet Avenue to reopen while store operations continue, said David Frank, the city's director of economic policy and development.
i can kinda understand kmart balking at this. what could the city tell them? "yeah, the store can stay open, we're just gonna, sort of run a road right through the fuckin middle of it, and the parking lot"
― goole, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:11 (nine years ago)
― mh, Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:09 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
from what i've pieced together, 70s redevelopment ideas were about as bad as they are now, just different.
― goole, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:13 (nine years ago)
Today, it almost feels like it was a move to intentionally block off one section of neighborhood from the other.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:14 (nine years ago)
as someone who doesn't live in mpls, but has been there enough times to mostly navigate without checking a map by knowing cardinal directions and major streets, I've been bitten by driving into the dead ends on *both* ends of that fucking k-mart
― mh, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:18 (nine years ago)
instead of this busy street with old storefronts and people hanging around, why not have a big new superstore with ample parking, like in the suburbs!
xp yeah it's a huge pain. i hope they work something out.
― goole, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:20 (nine years ago)
also if you've ever been in there, the detail that it's something close to a kmart flagship is stunning
do you think it was some dominance move by k-mart during target's early years? lol
― mh, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:21 (nine years ago)
i haven't read this thru yet but here's a short history:
https://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2014/04/history-nicollet-wall-and-hamstrung-city-hall
the street was blocked before kmart even agreed to go in there? jesus
― goole, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:26 (nine years ago)
It's a travesty, and whoever gave them that lease was a fool, but does "Eat Street" benefit by being less of a thoroughfare?
Also part of this bit of sad local history:
http://truecrime.wikia.com/wiki/Murder_of_Anne_Barber_Dunlap
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:37 (nine years ago)
didn't it get put in for the same reason that they ran the fucking interstate right through the middle of a neighborhood aka racism?
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:39 (nine years ago)
not sure that Lake and Nicollet would be the place for that? foolhardy visions of an urban Southdale seems more plausible.
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:46 (nine years ago)
xp that's what I'm saying! Feels a little Rondo lite
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:52 (nine years ago)
Total segregation. The Uptown side is white and gentrifying, the other side is new arrivals/black residents.
― syzygy stardust (suzy), Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:55 (nine years ago)
in 1977?
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:55 (nine years ago)
Lyndale has always been the dividing line tho in that neighborhood, not the interstate.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:57 (nine years ago)
Hmm yes, definitely - my mom was born around Bloomington and Lake in the 40s on the 'new arrivals' side (Swedish dad, Polish mom, maternal grandmother with a tavern on Lake). The other side has always had MIA and MCAD so a transient student/younger renter population even back then. Also nicer houses between Lake and Franklin.
― syzygy stardust (suzy), Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:02 (nine years ago)
Wouldn't between Lake and Franklin be what's theoretically getting walled off here?
Lived in this neighborhood pre-K-Mart (though I guess my parents were transient students at the time), and doesn't make sense to me (could well be wrong).
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:07 (nine years ago)
I'd actually submit that a Kmart is actually more beneficial to many of the residents of the neighborhood many of whom rely on public transportation than knocking it down and turning it into more fucking brewpubs. It's actually one of the few stores in that area you can get essentials at non-corner store inflated prices.
Though I'm sure it will eventually be another ugly ass condo with first floor retail
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:18 (nine years ago)
Also true
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:21 (nine years ago)
Man, this Current countdown of listeners' 893 artists is weird. And by weird, I mean super predictable.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 18:45 (nine years ago)
Dave Matthews Band approximately 250 slots higher than Mozart.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 18:47 (nine years ago)
well I'm going to be irrationally angry for the rest of the day now
― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 18:47 (nine years ago)
LOL, no need to listen now. It's gotten past the amusingly oddball/random phase and is settling decisively into the boring phase. Just holding out hope that somehow Bjork places higher than Dessa tbh.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 18:53 (nine years ago)
http://www.thecurrent.org/countdown/893-essential-artists/
2pac hologram is gonna be so psyched at making #154
― j., Thursday, 25 May 2017 03:17 (nine years ago)
i noticed there were like 17,000 disqus comments on it and immediately closed the page
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 25 May 2017 03:44 (nine years ago)
ah yes, crammed into a cage next to a mud road, the delights of downtown in the summer
Sidewalk cafes are back on south end of Nicollet! pic.twitter.com/DlfjkdFGLX— R.T. Rybak (@R_T_Rybak) June 5, 2017
― goole, Monday, 5 June 2017 19:40 (nine years ago)
lol
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 5 June 2017 19:40 (nine years ago)
http://m.startribune.com/the-yanez-jurors-a-snapshot/428447093/
Juror 10: A middle-aged white male who is retired from preprinting work, he said he followed news about the case off and on. He said he had seen Reynolds' Facebook video. "She seemed overly calm" he said on his juror questionnaire. He owns a handgun and hunts.
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 20:32 (eight years ago)
Jeez, the number of jurors who claim only passing familiarity with the cast at best ...
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 20:40 (eight years ago)
10 of the Trumpiest folks in Ramsey co. and 2 black people
― Dan I., Wednesday, 14 June 2017 20:53 (eight years ago)
Doesn't speak well of the prosecution's competence.
― Dan I., Wednesday, 14 June 2017 20:54 (eight years ago)
FWIW, the jury foreperson:
Juror 6: A white male in his 40s who is the jury foreperson. A wellness coach for the last seven years, he believes too many "victimless" crimes are prosecuted, including drug use and sex work. He believes marijuana should be legalized. He said he was "somewhat isolated" and knew nothing about the Yanez case.
So one fewer Trumpy folk.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 21:05 (eight years ago)
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having worked downtown for a little more than 2 yrs nowthe nicollet project has been almost bafflingly mishandled...like to an unreal degree
also it's like they are turning a street w/sidewalks into a....street w/sidewalks
they act like it's the big dig in boston or some shit
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 21:06 (eight years ago)
Worse sidewalks on top of that.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 21:07 (eight years ago)
You've got about 16 years to go before you can say the Nicollet Project has been mishandled as badly as the Big Dig.
― a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 21:22 (eight years ago)
sorry, 14 years
not including the 9 years of preplanning
― a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 21:23 (eight years ago)
I'm enjoying the "how do we get in the building today?" part of the project.
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 21:36 (eight years ago)
it's one of those clusterfucks that looks so ridiculous I want to see it if I'm in town
I'd hurry up to do so, but it sounds like I have time
speaking of clusterfucks, outside of the controversy, how's the walker's new sculpture garden?
― mh, Thursday, 15 June 2017 00:33 (eight years ago)
i'll let you know when i see it --- NEXT WEEK
(btw i go to mpls next week)
― gbx, Thursday, 15 June 2017 00:49 (eight years ago)
"She seemed overly calm" he said on his juror questionnaire
you dumb motherfucker can you not recognize a sublime moment of terrible humanity when you see it
― j., Thursday, 15 June 2017 03:42 (eight years ago)
The ridiculous vicissitudes of being the 15th biggest metro area in the U.S.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 June 2017 03:59 (eight years ago)
Yanez found not guilty, fucking bullshit
― Dan I., Friday, 16 June 2017 20:06 (eight years ago)
https://www.facebook.com/CBSMinnesota/videos/10155552597118825/
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Friday, 16 June 2017 21:01 (eight years ago)
Pretty fiery speech.