Friends who message you via less acceptable or egregious apps.

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The alt-app in my circle of peeps has been Viber for the most part. I looked at whatsapp for like 5 mins because a workboss demanded I hop on so she could send me some pics of the work halloween party. I left it off for weeks then fired it up to discover days and days and days of the Indian co-workers, all talking "off record" about shopping, lunch break spots, their kids... wtf. Uninstalled it after that.

One friend asked me to join kik ages back. I got a dick pic and 3 unsolicited come ons from strangers within an hour. The hell. Binned.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 14 May 2017 02:42 (seven years ago) link

I love lunch

mh, Sunday, 14 May 2017 04:56 (seven years ago) link

I like the FB messenger app, it seems pretty versatile, plus I can also use it to send regular texts.

ps: I'm elderly

Moodles, Sunday, 14 May 2017 05:29 (seven years ago) link

whatsapp is superior to sms in all respects - group chat, read receipts, images/video etc. - it's totally become the standard among ppl i know

ogmor, Sunday, 14 May 2017 10:36 (seven years ago) link

wtf can't believe ppl talk to each other

in a soylent whey (wins), Sunday, 14 May 2017 11:14 (seven years ago) link

Even my mum uses WhatsApp and she uses no other social media platform at all, that makes it pretty fucking mainstream.

Facebook Messenger is complete trash though.

Matt DC, Sunday, 14 May 2017 12:08 (seven years ago) link

It's like ten times better than google hangouts, which is just sad

mh, Sunday, 14 May 2017 16:24 (seven years ago) link

i don't have phone numbers or even email for most of the people I contact regularly on FB mesenger and I usually only use it on the computer anyway. they seem to have folded the app back into the fb app.

I don't get whatsapp. I have it, but the only people I know who use it are the teams I work with in Mexico and London. so I use it when I'm there.

akm, Sunday, 14 May 2017 16:37 (seven years ago) link

Read reciepts are the devils testicles btw. how am I meant to politely ignore some idiots message if they see Ive seen it!?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 15 May 2017 03:48 (seven years ago) link

you can turn it off in WhatsApp

(±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Monday, 15 May 2017 04:26 (seven years ago) link

the only person who communicates with me by standard text now is my mum

literally everyone else I know is through WhatsApp

Number None, Monday, 15 May 2017 16:00 (seven years ago) link

WhatsApp is extremely popular, but I don’t use it and am not aware of many people who do.

the ghost of markers, Monday, 15 May 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link

it's used very heavily outside the US but not so much within

ciderpress, Monday, 15 May 2017 19:45 (seven years ago) link

huh, had no idea. It's infinitely better than SMS

Number None, Monday, 15 May 2017 19:49 (seven years ago) link

i could be wrong about that, its just based on my own observation

ciderpress, Monday, 15 May 2017 19:51 (seven years ago) link

can confirm that yore mas all use whatsapp

spud called maris (darraghmac), Monday, 15 May 2017 19:51 (seven years ago) link

WhatsApp has killed both SMS and email for social life stuff, IME. Hugely popular.

Also huge rolling group chats between friends/acquaintances, those have genuinely broadened my social life or renewed old bonds.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 15 May 2017 19:58 (seven years ago) link

https://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/messaging-marketshare1.png

apparently Americans aren't too keen on instant messaging apps in general

Number None, Monday, 15 May 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link

only started using Whatsapp becasue of family in Barcelona where everyone uses it but it's all i use now

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 15 May 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link

Does WhatsApp have ads yet?

calstars, Monday, 15 May 2017 20:21 (seven years ago) link

facebook messenger would be completely fine if you weren't also required to download the messenger app to see messages

marcos, Monday, 15 May 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link

I wonder if they counted iMessage what the US usage number would be

mh, Monday, 15 May 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link

The Facebook messenger stupidly huge, like 180mb, and gets rapidly bigger. Is ridiculous.

Heavy Doors (jed_), Monday, 15 May 2017 21:59 (seven years ago) link

Typos.

Heavy Doors (jed_), Monday, 15 May 2017 21:59 (seven years ago) link

i can't stand any of these. text me or fuck off. bloatware, all of it.

goole, Monday, 15 May 2017 22:26 (seven years ago) link

i mean, sure, there are times when this is a necessity, and have rec'd many lovely messages on all platforms, but i find the competitive practices of fb, google and apple in this space really offputting

goole, Monday, 15 May 2017 22:27 (seven years ago) link

texting is so limited, whatsapp trounces it in every way

spud called maris (darraghmac), Monday, 15 May 2017 22:45 (seven years ago) link

WhatsApp >>>>>>

Spottie, Monday, 15 May 2017 23:55 (seven years ago) link

purely by accident/through circumstance i spend 90% of my time on wechat/line and the other 10% in sms, not because it's good but because it's there. the 4–5 people i'm closest to are facebook users and don't/won't use anything else.

it's pretty annoying to be passively squeezed out of social circles because i don't use facebook and old-timey friend groups have gradually forgotten i exist. i don't get invited to a lot of stuff because of this. recently i've considered making a facebook account but the downside is that i would have a facebook account.

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:38 (seven years ago) link

Ive the same issue re Twitter. Dont ever look at my account, and sometimes find out I was hald-assedly invited to something important because I should have seen so and so's tweet about it. How is that any way to invite people to a thing.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:44 (seven years ago) link

also the way apps like whatsapp and linkedin nag the user to turn on notifications/share all contacts really fucks me off. i will decide how i use your app, thanks very much.

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:45 (seven years ago) link

So no one uses Skype? I was under the impression that was one of the bigger ones.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:47 (seven years ago) link

years ago i asked linkedin to stop getting up my arse with the incessant "let us scrape all your contacts" nag screen and they were "guhh sorry it's a bug". it wasn't a bug.

xp i've used skype twice in the last two years, doesn't seem to be much need for it since every* app does voice/video calling.

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:49 (seven years ago) link

What if the worst “app” to be contacted through is . . . ILX.

the ghost of markers, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:59 (seven years ago) link

Every time on opening: "you have disabled push notifications" - yes, I'm aware of that. I was the person that disabled them.

Heavy Doors (jed_), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:39 (seven years ago) link

ppl just use skype for video chat i think, or facetime

mh, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:53 (seven years ago) link

I have exactly 9 people who've ever whatsapped me, it was filed under 'Dating' at first because it was only when I went back into the scene that anyone ever asked to contact them on that. Mostly I use it when I'm contacting people out foreign, particularly if I'm sending a photo or something that I expect they'd rather receive via wi-fi than via a painful data plan.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 02:08 (seven years ago) link

Every time on opening: "you have disabled push notifications" - yes, I'm aware of that. I was the person that disabled them.

― Heavy Doors (jed_), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 11:39 (fifty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't know whether whatsapp does this specific thing, but some apps hassle the christ out of you to turn on notifications, then barrage you with template nags begging you to open the app. all this cynical shit gets deleted.

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 02:31 (seven years ago) link

I just had a customer complain his MMS messaging wasnt enabled on his phone, and my work colleagues answers were all "who uses MMS anymore!?". HELPFUL

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 04:10 (seven years ago) link

agree, but generally speaking mms can be stupidly expensive if it's not in your plan. telstra was slogging me 50/75c per pic/vid last i checked.

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 04:19 (seven years ago) link

"texting is so limited" what does this mean? why? what is wrong with it?

akm, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 06:08 (seven years ago) link

no sms group chat, no desktop client, no stickers

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 06:25 (seven years ago) link

i guess I don't like talking to people that much

akm, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 06:38 (seven years ago) link

imessage does group chat, im not sure why SMS would need desktop access given its a phone thing, and stickers... gah!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 08:30 (seven years ago) link

fucken imessage. the messenger app for everyone as long as everyone has an iphone.

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 09:00 (seven years ago) link

btw

im not sure why SMS would need desktop access given its a phone thing

i meant in reference to sms being limited. ftr i use desktop clients all the time, was only just using line to do exactly that.

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 09:02 (seven years ago) link

only ever use skype or facetime when my parents phone me on it. in a weird way this technology, which i guess sort of did seem like how we imagined the future must be, seems to bore our generation but thrill the one that came before, at least ime. friends have told me the same thing about their parents and skype/facetime. a few weeks ago my dad facetimed me at about 1pm on a saturday, i was in bed with a horrible hangover, his face just appeared huge against the screen as he demanded help fixing the tv so he could watch a match that was starting in about 10 minutes - i then saw my own face as he saw it, bags under my eyes, his 34-year-old son obv in bed at 1pm, hungover. somehow managed to get through the call without permanently damaging our relationship.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 09:06 (seven years ago) link

WhatsApp seemed much more popular in the US several years ago when text messages still cost 10 cents each (or sometimes 20c) on many mobile plans. Now that texts are usually free here, WhatsApp use has declined.

I usually use texts or iMessage, which everyone with a cellphone (even a flip phone) will receive. Or email for long or more formal stuff.

Lee626, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 09:59 (seven years ago) link

ok, trying out whatsapp.
all ok on phone.
trying web/app version.
i am constantly being asked to scan the QR code.
i can then send a message, but next time, i have to scan one again.
i have ticked the 'keep me signed in' option.
is there a way to stop it demanding the QR code, or, is that just how it works ?

mark e, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:06 (seven years ago) link

webb/app version

WHY

spud called maris (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:11 (seven years ago) link

Oof. Grounds for divorce.

On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 16:26 (seven years ago) link

will try the web/app version on my home based laptop later on.
could be a work based network restriction thing that makes me have to register every few seconds.

well, installed whatsapp desktop app on home laptop and get exactly the same problem.
i checked, and there is no W10 app available via the Windows Store,
you have to get the d/l from the whatsapp website, and that only makes reference to W8, not W10.
suspect there is a slight bug when it comes to useage on a W10 laptop, hence no official app via the W10 store.

mark e, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 16:30 (seven years ago) link

Hmmm, no such thing/bug on my w10 laptop. Only had to scan it once after installing it. I don't really use it on my macbook/w10 laptops tho.

On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link

i can of course use the website app as opposed to standalone, but just wanted to try and figure out the root cause.
that said, the friend i wanted to chat to decided she hates whatsapp,
so, sticking with messenger.

mark e, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 16:37 (seven years ago) link

i use signal. i like it. only a few of my friends have it. so the feds can still read 85% of my communication. knowledge is power.

goole, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 16:38 (seven years ago) link

nope - checked, website version does the same.
weird little thing.
could be a setting in W10 (privacy setting), chrome setting, or a bug with the latest W10 build that came out last week.
cant be bothered to dig in further.

mark e, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 16:39 (seven years ago) link

unannounced video calls

unacceptable. unannounced audio calls are bad enough.

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 22:09 (seven years ago) link

FWIW when I referred to Skype I actually meant as a chat program, not the calls/video part of it.

We use it at work extensively to do workbased / group chats. I know Slack is the done thing everywhere else but I dunno.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:43 (seven years ago) link

Skype has the best emoji but nobody uses it for texting

Doubtless they are toss. (sic), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 01:23 (seven years ago) link

using skype for texting is like buying a land rover for the spacious glove box

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 02:52 (seven years ago) link

I think we just ended up using it for that cos we use it/all have accounts for other stuff... and Skype are a customer...

Sic otm about the emojis though, they're hilarious and fun.

https://az705183.vo.msecnd.net/onlinesupportmedia/onlinesupport/media/skype/screenshots/fa12330/emoticons/talktothehand_80_anim_gif.gif

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 03:46 (seven years ago) link

the conclusion to draw from all this is that as usual tech companies have made our lives worse for their own ends

softie (silby), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 03:46 (seven years ago) link

I use a combo of mime and interpretive dance.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 04:05 (seven years ago) link

trayce otm, ultimately it doesn't matter what we prefer because we end up using what everyone else uses

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 04:05 (seven years ago) link

now that I know we can, I might sign all my ILX posts with a skype emoji

https://az705183.vo.msecnd.net/onlinesupportmedia/onlinesupport/media/skype/screenshots/fa12330/emoticons/discodancer_anim.gif

Doubtless they are toss. (sic), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 04:24 (seven years ago) link


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