They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

Only opens in the UK today (think there were previews yesterday) and not until next week in the US.

i might go and see it this weekend

the lure of franco immolation is too strong to resist

Wasn't at all interested in seeing this but I was promised some food if I went out, the pizza was good, the film went beneath my low expectations.

There's some pretty impressive sights, visual references to Bocklin and possibly John Martin, but it probably all looked better in the concept art stages because it has that fakey blockbuster look to it.

The aliens never look as good as they did in the first four films, which surprised me. Looks like they stuck to cgi entirely?

There was some bizarre choice of sexual innuendo in the dialogue which the audience cracked up at. Several people started shouting about how much the film sucked, they were told to fuck off and thankfully they did after 10 minutes or so. I got a sense that they wouldn't have liked it even if it was great.

Fassbender gets some of the bulk of the bad dialogue and I'm not sure how well he could have delivered it all but the lead actress is good.

Genuine question: why did people have such hopes for this one? Have Scott's recent films been good?

who are these "people" you're referring to?

I don't know if I've ever been in a commercial theater where people yelled stuff at the screen unless it was some special event or like rocky horror

my god, you are a fortunate soul

I understood that was an unavoidable aspect of the experience in the US of A

Rich Juzwiak, suffering for art

http://themuse.jezebel.com/in-space-everyone-can-see-you-make-a-shitty-sequel-lik-1795018650

...a weird homoeroticism between Fassbender droids ensues. I wasn’t sure if David teaching Walter to play a recorder-like wind instrument was meant to be funny—“Watch me, I’ll do the fingering”—but the screening audience I saw this movie with on Friday evening certainly found that line hilarious. You have to take your entertainment where you can find it, I suppose.

Yeah that was the moment.

fwiw Vanity Fair preferred Life over this

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/03/life-jake-gyllenhaal-daniel-espinosa-review
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/05/alien-covenant-review-ridley-scott

yeeesh

I also prefer having a life over this

how would you know

:)

:D

Matt Zoller Seitz gave it four stars on Ebert's site, Ignaty gave it a B+ on AVClub.

i'm willing to give this a chance, i often don't agree w/the conventional wisdom on movies like this.

Seitz is about one notch above Peter Travers; the motherfucker likes everything.

The warning signs are too blatant (not least its red-flag predecessor) and the criticisms too specific and consistent for me to buy that this movie is secretly good.

it's such an awesome secret that you won't actually no how awesome it was until the NEXT sequel comes out and you go see that too

Has there ever been a backwards series of sequels where each movie takes place before the last one?

Indiana Jones, if you don't count the fourth one

oh, damn the third one wasn't set first. nevermind

Has there ever been a backwards series of sequels where each movie takes place before the last one?

The Conjouring series does this, doesn't it? Also didn't Paranormal Activity go this route for a while?

Hmm, I know the second takes place before the first, but the third follows the second. So second is just a standard prequel.

Technically each Back to the Future installment takes place before the last one. But they also take place after.

Rep. Mike Simpson (R-Idaho): “What I’m worried about is, in the early 1970s, politicians like me were standing around saying, ‘Nixon’s okay, he didn’t do anything,’ and look what it led to,” he said. “And every day there is something that adds on to it.”

Genuinely shocked at level of reflectiveness here tbh

Was Nixon an alien host?

lol whoops

“What I’m worried about is, in the late 1970s, people like me were standing around saying, ‘Scott’s okay, he didn’t do anything bad with Alien,’ and look what it led to,” he said. “And every day there is something that adds on to it.”

hahaha

Lol bump accidental set spike

Left the house intending to see Colossal, was too late, couldn't bear the thought of going back out in the heat so I saw this instead. Whoof. Oddly I think it managed to be better than Prometheus in a great variety of ways while still having most of the same flaws, in many cases having them much worse (especially w/r/t the characters all being morons). It basically kind of pissed me off but I can't say I didn't deserve it - fool me once, etc. etc. I will say I was not expecting callbacks to Alien3, so that at least was some kind of surprise.

I don't think this deserves its own spoiler thread, but I don't want to spoil anything here. How much longer do we normally give these things?

It's inconceivable that the characters in this can be dumber than those in Prometheus, with its map makers getting long and that idiot petting the space parasite like it's a puppy.

it's more diffuse - only one or two actions are quite as dumb as that, but everybody is operating with a generalized dumbness from the word go. the entire reason they are in the situation at all is dumb and the situation chiefly escalates because of further dumb decisions. and, this is as spoiley as i'll go, one character goes full Lambert within the first four seconds of anything remotely stressful happening and it all goes to shit from there and it's like, man, where do they keep finding these crackerjack crews for critical space missions?

a coupla white robots sitting around playing the flute. is what they should have called it.

"It's inconceivable that the characters in this can be dumber than those in Prometheus..."

you wrong!

it's pretty quick though. and some great visuals.

Do ppl get ate

it's mostly ate.

it's mostly blood and fassbender. which also would have been a good title. you gotta be down with the fassbender. could have been a one man show on broadway. with flutes.

on the plus side, you don't have to care about anyone if caring isn't your thing. they are all stock horror movie characters with the exception of aryan robot boy.

Fassbender hams it up like a goddamn champion in this. He OWNS.

It's basically an evil episode of Star Trek or a wacky mad scientist flick stuffed inside a conventional alien movie. It moves way too fast but I liked it.

all the pretty planet and ship stuff really made me wish he could just make a 3 hour pretty planet and ship movie. that stuff was lovingly done and i wish i could have lingered with it longer. it was worth seeing just for that.

there is one part, the apex of the part where they're climbing the pretty planet (again trying not to spoil anything specific) that is gooorrrgeous and yeah it was like, if these images were married to a really great story and about half as many characters who actually were characters, there would be the potential there for a really spectacular latter-day sci-fi triumph from scott. in practice it's more like pandorumetheus but so it goes.

These characters would be colonists rather than scientists, right? So I'd expect a certain level of dumb.

Not this dumb. You land on a previously unknown planet with a rich ecosystem, take no biological or quarantine precautions, and aren't concerned when someone starts to look really sick really quickly? These are Golgofrinchans.

"guys they're only colonists, doesn't matter if we just choose the first couple of dozen idiots that apply"

This is the type of movie where an evil robot sings opera to himself in the mirror while cutting his hair.

It's not wrong to say that the characters frequently act like idiots in this but it feels kinda beside the point maybe?

Also like, have y'all been watching the news lately at all or

a coupla white robots sitting around playing the flute. is what they should have called it

waiting for podot *awaits erudite applause*