Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

It would probably be more interesting to watch 45 minutes of the actors having lunch in full makeup than any given episode of the series.

my daughter and I just got to the Space Seed last week, she was so into it

Not only were the actors boring, they stayed boring for SEVEN WHOLE SEASONS. That's an almost respectable commitment.

wtf is this vic fontaine shit? and apparently he becomes a recurring character?

Vic Fontaine was a bad idea, but the actor/singer playing him is enjoyable, and the episode with him and PTSD Nog is really good, so they kinda manage to salvage that it could've been.

Apparently he was only added to the show because Ira Steven Behr loves '50s crooner music. And they originally intended to cast Frank Sinatra Jr. for the role!

The holodeck heist episode that takes place in his casino was an enjoyable breather amidst the Dominion war arc too. Really, they managed to make lemonade out of that particular lemon.

Fuck all the haters, Vic is awesome. Best holodeck character in all of ST. For whatever that's worth.

Picard and riker would disagree

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It's weird that they never really get into the ethics of a captive holodeck being. Especially with Vic, who remembers his past experiences, etc.

TNG "Ship in a Bottle"? and i'm sure Voyager did it with the Doctor at some point though not necessarily well

I'll have to look that one (Ship in a Bottle) up.

Ship in a Bottle gets into the ethics of holodeck beings like Triumph of the Will gets into the ethics of fascism.

yeah it's not at all a hard look at it but it plays off the concept

Its decent for a TNG ep

Rewatched "Ship in a Bottle" for the poll and was underwhelmed. I think knowing the episode's ONE TRICK THAT WILL SHOCK YOU beforehand drains a lot of the fun from it.

OTOH, Voyager's "Blink of an Eye" is fun!

I think knowing the episode's ONE TRICK THAT WILL SHOCK YOU beforehand drains a lot of the fun from it.

haha yes

yeah i rewatched it last night after mentioning it in here and i still enjoyed but the ending is certainly more effective if you aren't expecting it

Blink of an Eye another good exmaple of the sort of silly high-concept thing that produces the most watchable Voyager eps

pretty sure Moriarty was lying about being awake while in storage. he was smarter than data, you know!

I can't believe this is going to air first before Discovery ever does. Or maybe I can.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-first-trailer-for-seth-macfarlanes-star-trek-spoof-1795237662

ew

i'll watch that tripe. over/under on episodes until cancellation?

Oh god that's a TV series?? Why couldn't it just be a movie, where we could hold our breaths during its opening weekend and then forget about it afterwards?

boo. makes me want to retroactively forget any Family Guy episodes i have watched

I wish Cleveland Show was still around tbh

Just watch Galaxy Quest again

I'm glad he helped get cosmos mk ii made and that he likes to hire old school film composers but other than that seth mcfarlane completely sucks shit

Otm

MacFarlane's smoothness creeps me the fuck out. He's like an unattractive version of Jude Law's sexbot from AI.

cosmos mark 2 was kind of pointless

dude is chummy with patrick stewart, no?

this is probably anathema on this thread, but is it okay to ask if patrick stewart is a normally intelligent person? he always seems like a genial dope to me, but i am not a fan exactly.

An actual trailer, who knew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dxe_ugmIVM

new Lady Gaga album cover? cool

something about this feels more babylon 5.

can't watch the discovery trailer (not for canada apparently) but i just watched the orville one, cool to see beverly from larry sanders show in there!

fuckin lens flares, really?

idk doesn't looks terrible to me

So fucking irritated that this is going to be on their proprietary streaming service. I literally watch NOTHING on CBS.

May have to dust off my t0rrentz client.

Looks kind of good. The trailer is paced like a summer movie - I'm assuming the show will be allowed to breathe a bit.

this is probably anathema on this thread, but is it okay to ask if patrick stewart is a normally intelligent person? he always seems like a genial dope to me, but i am not a fan exactly.

I remember that he had a reputation for being a prima donna and also he referred to himself in the third person when that was a thing.

reading the next 25 years, his input at the time of TNG was that he wanted the captain to shoot and fuck more. they wrote him a die hard episode in season 6 just to placate him.

i think patrick stewart seems to have chilled out a lot over the last 10 years or so - from interviews i've read he seems to acknowledge that he was an uptight prick through at least the shooting of the first season of tng

a combination of counselling through his anger about having an abusive childhood and coming to terms with the realisation that his dad suffered from undiagnosed ptsd from wwii seems to have allowed him to become the chill brooklyn-dwelling stoner (and best bro of ian mckellen) that he is now

having said that, fuck him for looking better at 76 than i ever have or ever will

lol

Every time I netflix the original series episode, I end up fast forawrding at about the 7 min mark - that shoudl could have been much shorter

. We returned home - we baked sponge cakes - lots of junk food and called injustice to the people who got it - like they did not get along with them so shocked. They do not get the same thing that they are very shocked.

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