Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

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Based on a novel written by a climate denier, btw.

Bashir-Worf Hypothesis (Leee), Friday, 5 May 2017 21:39 (nine years ago)

there's six billion of us and counting while annual temperature records mount and the US government is *officially* like fuck you 'what, me worry'

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 6 May 2017 00:05 (nine years ago)

7.5 billion, tbf

there are now more people living in cities than were alive when i was born

mookieproof, Saturday, 6 May 2017 01:48 (nine years ago)

they like the hustle and bustle

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 6 May 2017 04:00 (nine years ago)

Kinda love how the Svalbard vault's interior uses the same shelving as my local hardware store.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Friday, 19 May 2017 20:03 (nine years ago)

lefty conspiracy from the Eisenhower days, no doubt

64 years ago today: "How Industry May Change Climate" by Waldemar Kaempffert, May 24, 1953 @nytclimate pic.twitter.com/PYFjsE28JR

— Brad Johnson (@climatebrad) May 24, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 May 2017 16:28 (nine years ago)

makes sense

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/05/report-trump-is-planning-to-pull-out-of-paris-climate-deal.html

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 28 May 2017 15:03 (nine years ago)

well, nice knowing you all

, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 14:38 (nine years ago)

the tweet embedded in that piece is legit terrifying

How hot does Earth get if the U.S. abandons the Paris #climate agreement? @borenbears found out. https://t.co/gPZGvVRcFC? pic.twitter.com/BCSORD8r7D

— Jonathan Fahey (@JonathanFahey) May 27, 2017

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 14:43 (nine years ago)

NBD, we'll all be dead by then. Because the US pulled out of the Paris accord.

Trockasturm Hoar The Ramming Battle Ceraton (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 14:50 (nine years ago)

cities are going to get hotter faster, shoulda posted the piece last week

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 15:01 (nine years ago)

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/global-warming-is-turning-cities-into-costly-urban-heat-islands/

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 15:04 (nine years ago)

old article but interesting

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/dec/12/james-hansen-climate-change-paris-talks-fraud

Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 16:53 (nine years ago)

I mean he is 1000% otm on the carbon tax

frogbs, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:53 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY

the ghost of markers, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 18:20 (nine years ago)

To mark rejection of Paris accords, Antarctica about to calve a Wales-sized iceberg, one of largest ever recorded https://t.co/CFctzJFEhb

— Bill McKibben (@billmckibben) May 31, 2017

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:29 (nine years ago)

bigger big-league bergs

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:31 (nine years ago)

SAVE THE WALES

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:33 (nine years ago)

i can't believe i tweeted a correction at bill mckibben but i had to. the article says it was the size of Delaware (1,930 sq miles) which is about a quarter the size of Wales (8,023 sq miles). I guess he meant that the iceberg was about the length of Wales. anyway, oof

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:34 (nine years ago)

SAVE THE DELAWALES

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:35 (nine years ago)

thank you!

— Bill McKibben (@billmckibben) May 31, 2017

i want to ride around on bill mckibben's ankle like fievel in a shirtpocket

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:37 (nine years ago)

I remember when icebergs the size of Manhattan were a big deal.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 21:06 (nine years ago)

*heavy sigh*

Trump calls mayor of shrinking Chesapeake island and tells him not to worry about it

cast your vote for fully automated gay space luxury communism (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:41 (nine years ago)

“He said we shouldn’t worry about rising sea levels,” Eskridge said. “He said that ‘your island has been there for hundreds of years, and I believe your island will be there for hundreds more.’”

Eskridge wasn’t offended. In fact, he agreed that rising sea levels aren’t a problem for Tangier.

“Like the president, I’m not concerned about sea level rise,” he said. “I’m on the water daily, and I just don’t see it.”

makes sense

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:48 (nine years ago)

starting to think that dilbert dipshit might be on to something about trump's hypnotic powers

cast your vote for fully automated gay space luxury communism (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:52 (nine years ago)

another post hat makes me want to move to Canada - in this case because it will be the only place with snow in the future and not 140 degrees in summer

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 19:20 (nine years ago)

It's not hypnotic powers. Most if not all here on ilxor are complex personalities, ensconced like an onion with something approximating Freud's Id, Ego, and Superego. Some further than themselves with irony or deadpan humor about the human predicament.

Trump's onion has a rather thin, if any cortex. He's just a grasping Id, little burnished by education or curiosity. Most with this defect go unseen by the educated classes, as they don't make it through the socioeconomic filters.

But there are millions like him, just exposed ids awaiting someone to articulate their resentments and desires. As many Americans confuse wealth with virtue, Trump's largely inherited wealth insulated him from moral critique.

As this is the climate thread, I think we who are concerned about climate, about effects that linger for thousands of years, need to start speaking to these unfilted ids. I care about those billions living (or not) in the year 3000. That's perhaps why those on the national security side (from DoD reports to Obama) have started talking about future refugee crises, because if slow sea rise doesn't scare the recalcitrant, perhaps a deluge of brown people will.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 19:44 (nine years ago)

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55736/climate-change-storms-scott-pruitt/

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 16:55 (nine years ago)

yayyy!

Scientists have spent decades measuring what was happening to all of the carbon dioxide that was produced when people burned coal, oil and natural gas. They established that less than half of the gas was remaining in the atmosphere and warming the planet. The rest was being absorbed by the ocean and the land surface, in roughly equal amounts.

In essence, these natural sponges were doing humanity a huge service by disposing of much of its gaseous waste. But as emissions have risen higher and higher, it has been unclear how much longer the natural sponges will be able to keep up.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/26/climate/carbon-in-atmosphere-is-rising-even-as-emissions-stabilize.html?platform=hootsuite&_r=1

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:44 (nine years ago)

three years till the point of no return. good thing mr. trump is in the white house and mr. pruitt heading the EPA

https://www.nature.com/news/three-years-to-safeguard-our-climate-1.22201?dom=icopyright&src=syn

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 29 June 2017 02:55 (eight years ago)

The Earth has experienced five mass extinctions before the one we are living through now, each so complete a slate-wiping of the evolutionary record it functioned as a resetting of the planetary clock, and many climate scientists will tell you they are the best analog for the ecological future we are diving headlong into. Unless you are a teenager, you probably read in your high-school textbooks that these extinctions were the result of asteroids. In fact, all but the one that killed the dinosaurs were caused by climate change produced by greenhouse gas. The most notorious was 252 million years ago; it began when carbon warmed the planet by five degrees, accelerated when that warming triggered the release of methane in the Arctic, and ended with 97 percent of all life on Earth dead. We are currently adding carbon to the atmosphere at a considerably faster rate; by most estimates, at least ten times faster. The rate is accelerating. This is what Stephen Hawking had in mind when he said, this spring, that the species needs to colonize other planets in the next century to survive, and what drove Elon Musk, last month, to unveil his plans to build a Mars habitat in 40 to 100 years. These are nonspecialists, of course, and probably as inclined to irrational panic as you or I. But the many sober-minded scientists I interviewed over the past several months — the most credentialed and tenured in the field, few of them inclined to alarmism and many advisers to the IPCC who nevertheless criticize its conservatism — have quietly reached an apocalyptic conclusion, too: No plausible program of emissions reductions alone can prevent climate disaster.

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When Did Humans Doom the Earth for Good?

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/climate-change-earth-too-hot-for-humans.html

SWEET DREAMS

Karl Malone, Monday, 10 July 2017 04:04 (eight years ago)

sooo...we arming up for the revolution or nah?

nice cage (m bison), Monday, 10 July 2017 04:58 (eight years ago)

https://lastexittonowhere.imgix.net/uploads/catalogue/productimage-picture-quietus-regular-t-shirt-5955.jpg

bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 July 2017 10:14 (eight years ago)

S'okay.

Cancer now more common than getting married or having a first baby.

полезные дурак (Sanpaku), Monday, 10 July 2017 20:08 (eight years ago)

If The Graduate were remade in 2017, there's a decent chance that when the young hero is pulled aside by the middle-aged man and told the secret word describing the path to making big money, it wouldn't be "plastics", but "cancer".

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 10 July 2017 22:49 (eight years ago)

Editors of PNAS usually less fretful.

Ceballosa et al, 2017. Biological annihilation via the ongoing sixth mass extinction signaled by vertebrate population losses and declines. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. doi: 10.1073/pnas.1704949114

полезные дурак (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 15:25 (eight years ago)

if this even happened, it was probably chinese dynamite that did it

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/07/trillion-tonne-iceberg-breaks-antarctica-170712095845744.html

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 13:25 (eight years ago)

underrated album imho

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 14:32 (eight years ago)

forgotten kung-fu exploitation picture from the 70s iirc

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 15:06 (eight years ago)

An iceberg of 5800 square kilometers!

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 16:16 (eight years ago)

i. c. e.
b. e. r. g.
what's that spell?
iceberg baby can't you read?

popcorn michael awaits trumptweet (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 17:31 (eight years ago)

A small thing, but

https://www.buzzfeed.com/zahrahirji/lamar-smith-tours-the-arctic

Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 July 2017 12:56 (eight years ago)

Oh cool my rep *barfs*

nice cage (m bison), Friday, 14 July 2017 13:46 (eight years ago)

This also sounds like some good news:

Seaweed shown to reduce 99% methane from cattle

DJI, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 23:22 (eight years ago)

the David Wallace-Wells series has been unavoidable and immiserating in the extreme

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 00:19 (eight years ago)

Immiserating is a word that David Foster Wallace would use.

I've commented on the article (and its annotated version) on other forums. Its on the extreme side, and though its explicit that its presenting worst case scenarios (business as usual, long term, lower probability), some climate scientists have come out attacking it for being alarmist. Frankly, conservative IPCC reports aren't getting through, weather casters ascribing mildly catastrophic weather events to climate change isn't getting through, so maybe its time for alarums. I've already encountered everything it reports studying climate change and mass extinction events in the geological record.

As for myself, I can't imagine how humanity exits the 21st century with more than 5 billion considering multiple environmental/resource issues, which entails a lot of future suffering. I'd raise the alarm all the time were there appropriate venues, but yesterday I attended my brother's baby shower and smiled benignly.

полезные дурак (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 01:32 (eight years ago)


Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX), noted climate change denier and chair of the House Science Committee, on Monday penned an eyebrow-raising op-ed that argued there are “benefits” to a changing climate.

“The benefits of a changing climate are often ignored and under-researched. Our climate is too complex and the consequences of misguided policies too harsh to discount the positive effects of carbon enrichment,” Smith wrote in an op-ed for The Daily Signal, a website run by the conservative Heritage Foundation.

Smith acknowledged that the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is increasing and argued that it would help plant growth and farming. He also posited that sea ice melting in the Arctic would open up new shipping routes, spinning ice melt as a positive change for the Earth.

nope
https://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-positives-negatives-basic.htm

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 17:50 (eight years ago)

so sad that the place where i found the article about smith's comments (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lamar-smith-benefits-climate-change) didn't bother to mention WHY he was completely wrong. all they did was call it "eyebrow-raising" and put "benefits" in quotation marks.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 17:51 (eight years ago)


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