Democratic (Party) Direction

i would vote Warren in an instant. i'm surprised to discover she is 67! she obv takes care of herself.

not really seeing her nomiated though. if the same people in charge last year are still in charge they will probably pick someone that sucks.

voters?

unfortunately yes

yes here is your choice the 3 ppl who were able to raise half a billion dollars, pure democracy with a Big D

lost to him by -2,868,691 votes

OK maybe just someone who reads Milton Bradley's instructions about The Object of the Game

jfc at the singing dem congresspeople

haven't heard or seen yet but it seems like an odd moment of misplaced overconfidence

i will never not be embarrassed by and angry at american politicians i guess

CA is moving its primary to March so maybe a bunch of dumb fucks in New Hampshire and Iowa dont have full say on who will be the nominee..

lost to him by -2,868,691 votes

This is up there with Republicans whining that Clinton wasn't legitimate because he only got a plurality of the popular vote.

oh yeah i'm sure it is

it's tantamount to calling the president of the united states "jonad"

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how can dems on one hand talk about life and death (which it is) then sing based on some abstract political calculus 18 months form now?

Like, what's the point at all in looking smug like this? What upside is there? It confounds me.

It does?

The singing was fucked up.

it was an elaborate callback

It's like everyone has lost the ability to take things seriously.

are we sure it was the dems who were singing that?

i've been seeing conflicting reports all day

Idk. I hope it wasn't.

What the House Republicans did today is despicable.

True, but that doesn't make democrats response look good though.

Duh

I don't give a fuck.

me neither

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/05/04/democrats_tone_deaf_response_to_trumpcare_vote_singing_nah_nah_hey_hey_goodbye.html

Seems like there are good sources that it was the Democrats.

I care about this. This health care bill is potentially a death sentence for millions if it passes the Senate. It's not a hilarious tone deaf misstep by the Republicans, it's murder for profit.

Those things are true, and I want to mock these people for being so stupid and myopic.

How about save the gloating and singing until after you win some fucking elections?

House Dems vote as a unit against a bill that will kill people and mocked the Republicans who voted for it. I'm supposed to be upset? Or are we thinking BOO HOO THE DEMS SHOULD BE THE MATURE PARTY

should have included a public option rather than a fucking fine

They're mocking republicans for what? Getting exactly what they wanted?

this is a total non-issue and paying any attention to it at all means you care more about the sound of your own voice than the issue at hand.

^^^

this handwringing is some nonsense. This thing isn't even a fucking law yet! It's ALL optics/theater at this point.

Trade in the poster board on sticks for actual pitchforks from now on

How about save the gloating and singing until after you win some fucking elections?

Strangely enough, Marx, Jesus, Mohammed, Lincoln AND Moses all said the same thing. Also Churchill and Gandhi.

Then I want some DAMN royalties!

it goes without saying that on policy what's happening is disastrous

that said it's hard not feel apathetic reading all the political optimism from some dems coming out of this. the logic that by voting for a bill that is sure to be unpopular they're ensuring their own midterm defeat seems true but...is that all there is now? wasn't this exactly what happened 8 years ago? is this what we're going to see now, alternating wave elections for the foreseeable future? it's depressing.

is this what we're going to see now, alternating wave elections for the foreseeable future? it's depressing.

that's how American history has worked!

Check these out, especially 1894:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_1890

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_1894

means you care more about the sound of your own voice than the issue at hand.

― People like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, May 4, 2017 6:31 PM (twenty-five minutes ago)

could the same be said of the congresspeople singing? smart money says yes

xp i know, it's just depressing to live it out. i was 19 or 20 when the ACA passed and it legit felt like a monumental achievement (even with the reservations that several of us itt shared). now i'm 8 years older and more cynical and tbf i just dgaf about looking forward to the next election or encouraging this infantile mock-singing

i would just like people to have health care

hey look I lived through forty years of Democratic dominance in the House. 1994 and 2002 felt like stomach punches, so much so that 2006 and 2008 were is-this-happening moments.

i would just like people to have health care

― k3vin k., Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:01 PM

otm

damn:

The fragmented and disoriented Democratic Party was crushed everywhere outside the South, losing more than half its seats to the Republican Party. Even in the South, the Democrats lost seats to Republican-Populist electoral fusion in Alabama, Texas, Tennessee, and North Carolina.[2][3] The Democrats ultimately lost 127 seats in the election while the Republicans gained 130 seats (after the resolution of several contested elections). This is the largest swing in the history of the House of Representatives, and also makes the 1894 election the single largest midterm election victory in the entire history of the United States. (A political party would not suffer triple-digit losses again until 1932.)

of course in 1894 I would've been a socialist or Republican.

Your cynicism was delayed by the election of a black president

many cross posts

alternating wave elections

About half the country hating the president's guts is the new normal.

I feel ya, K3v. P sure we all want people to have health care. Depressingly incremental steps in that direction may be the best one can hope for, and those steps will probably involve politics, alas. So stuff like optics and gloating and Bud Light and who sings what and what the tweetwits tweet? All that shit is going to matter to some extent.

this is a total non-issue and paying any attention to it at all means you care more about the sound of your own voice than the issue at hand.

In and of itself, sure. But it is an OMINOUS, OMINOUS sign that we can expect absolute worst from the Dems henceforth. Along with I'M STILL WITH HER gtfo.

we can expect absolute worst from the Dems henceforth

somehow I don't think this will prove difficult for you

this is a total non-issue and paying any attention to it at all means you care more about the sound of your own voice than the issue at hand.

In and of itself, sure.

stopped reading here