^^^
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 21:56 (seven years ago) link
sexism definitely played a big part but I think being the Candidate of Destiny/"Most qualified candidate ever" up against the TV Ratings Clown Candidate was even bigger. everyone expected Clinton to win and therefore she got criticized like someone who had already been in office for several years. Trump got positive press just for staying silent for a day.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 21:58 (seven years ago) link
I don't know the particulars of the email datasets the FBI had, but in my experience its not too hard to boil down emails to a MD5 hash value and dedupe one set of emails across another (weiner docs v. private server docs). Granted the hash values could be changed by Huma forwarding them to Weiner but I'd like to think the FBI has better resources than a mediocre sized law firm but I dont think it could have taken longer than a couple days to determine what exactly was in this stuff - or if it was just dupes of what they already had. The letter wasnt necessary, IMO.
* then again for all I know the broke ass government/fbi was reviewing this stuff in fucking paper form =|
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 21:59 (seven years ago) link
on the merits, the email issue was of course pretty trivial. obviously, ideally a candidate wouldn't compromise her viability by exercising judgment poor enough to invite a legitimate FBI investigation. didn't help that the media seemed to treat her unfairly in comparison to trump. comey's letter obviously a disaster. plenty of blame to go around
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 3 May 2017 22:05 (seven years ago) link
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries),
it was!
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link
we get what we pay for =(
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 22:24 (seven years ago) link
I dreamt she was President last night.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 22:33 (seven years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/apr/26/new-william-gibson-novel-world-where-hillary-clinton-won-agency
― El Tuomasbot (milo z), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 22:36 (seven years ago) link
The Woman In the High Server Farm
― okey-dokey, gnocchi (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:24 (seven years ago) link
FBI search warrant for Clinton emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop made publicThe discovery of the emails on the disgraced New York congressman’s laptop prompted the FBI director, James Comey, to briefly reopen an investigation that he had closed over the summer into Clinton’s use of the private server to handle emails she sent and received as secretary of state.After getting court consent to delve into the newly discovered emails on 30 October, agents spent several days analyzing them before Comey announced that they contained no new evidence of any wrongdoing by Clinton.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/20/hillary-clinton-emails-anthony-weiner-fbi-search-warrant
The discovery of the emails on the disgraced New York congressman’s laptop prompted the FBI director, James Comey, to briefly reopen an investigation that he had closed over the summer into Clinton’s use of the private server to handle emails she sent and received as secretary of state.
After getting court consent to delve into the newly discovered emails on 30 October, agents spent several days analyzing them before Comey announced that they contained no new evidence of any wrongdoing by Clinton.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/20/hillary-clinton-emails-anthony-weiner-fbi-search-warrant
some william gibson-level irony here. the only reason the emails had to come back up was because of the Weiner investigation and the them forwarding some emails at the wrong time essentially stepping on their own rake. wasn't this supposed to be part of the famous Russian plot? how unfortunate she lost the election over some dick pics.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 21 May 2017 20:46 (seven years ago) link
no.
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Sunday, 21 May 2017 20:58 (seven years ago) link
when an election progresses over 16 months and involves more than a dozen candidates and 100 million voters, the outcome hinges on something more than dick pics
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 21 May 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link
not so. close elections hinge on thousands of factors
― flopson, Sunday, 21 May 2017 21:12 (seven years ago) link
both otm
― k3vin k., Sunday, 21 May 2017 21:22 (seven years ago) link
― A is for (Aimless)
i know we'd like to believe this
― Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Sunday, 21 May 2017 21:25 (seven years ago) link
Surely the point of that article is in the final paragraph:
In statement, E Randol Schoenberg, a Los Angeles lawyer who had sued to obtain the court papers, said on Tuesday that he saw “nothing at all in the search warrant application that would give rise to probable cause, nothing that would make anyone suspect that there was anything on the laptop beyond what the FBI had already searched and determined not to be evidence of a crime, nothing to suggest that there would be anything other than routine correspondence between secretary Clinton and her longtime aide Huma Abedin”.
That is to say, it wasn't some dick pics, or a rake of their own design. It was institutional failure at the FBI and the media, caused by bullshit both-sides-ism, that blew a story out of proportion and allowed people to paint Clinton as equally bad as Trump. Because saying both sides were equally bad were too many places seen as evidence of objectivity.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 21 May 2017 23:16 (seven years ago) link
I'm a bit frustrated by the seizing of my liberal friends on the Ivanka world bank fund Saudi donation thing given how impossible it was to convince them that there was anything remotely unseemly about the Clinton Foundation (which, unlike this Ivanka thing -- a World Bank project -- is actually controlled by the Clintons). Really I see many more parallels between the Clintons and the Trumps, and the Clintons are somehow always given a pass - nepotism, conflicts of interest, even sexual harassment and rape.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:30 (seven years ago) link
cool lookin' book
http://www.orbooks.com/catalog/how-i-lost/
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link
With a foreword by JULIAN ASSANGE
disgusting imo
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:25 (seven years ago) link
yeah id prob skip the intro
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:25 (seven years ago) link
in the words of the Democratic candidate and her close associates
but speaking of disgusting
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 May 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link
"But her slaves!"
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 8 June 2017 00:14 (seven years ago) link
I was wondering when that was gonna cross over
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 June 2017 01:33 (seven years ago) link
idgi
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 June 2017 02:38 (seven years ago) link
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/06/the-clintons-had-slaves
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 June 2017 04:40 (seven years ago) link
Slaves make license plates. Slaves sew products for third-party companies. Slaves cook for other slaves.
― pplains, Thursday, 8 June 2017 05:26 (seven years ago) link
The Hillary-Bernie online camp battles get more annoying by the day (even with her mini-comeback tour I don't think she'd run in 2020) but the way she wrote about that is pretty horrifying.
― El Tuomasbot (milo z), Thursday, 8 June 2017 09:53 (seven years ago) link
WHO GIVES A FUCK
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 8 June 2017 10:47 (seven years ago) link
the Clintons used slave labor when he was governor of Arkansas and his wife was tone deaf about it? Fuck I'm glad to hear this is blowing up on twitter I thought I would have to think about some actual politics shit today
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 8 June 2017 10:49 (seven years ago) link
Thank god we didn't elect this woman amirite fellas
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 8 June 2017 10:50 (seven years ago) link
Without clicking on that can I just check what slave means in that article pls
― D'mnuchin returns (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 June 2017 11:41 (seven years ago) link
Unpaid prison labour, see also that handy loophole in the 13th amendment
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 June 2017 11:47 (seven years ago) link
If you just want to read the excerpt without the commentary, it can be found here https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBp4hQYVoAER0g8.jpg
― Frederik B, Thursday, 8 June 2017 11:57 (seven years ago) link
there was also something about a country club they used to golf at too
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 June 2017 13:38 (seven years ago) link
It's wrong to keep throwing around the word "slave" in reference to this.
Though if you want to go ahead and talk about how Mike Huckabee "freed a slave" and then the "former slave" went to Washington and killed a bunch of cops, go right ahead. At least you'll sound consistent.
― pplains, Thursday, 8 June 2017 14:55 (seven years ago) link
it's a more honest way to talk about the prison industrial complex than is generally done imho
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:07 (seven years ago) link
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― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:09 (seven years ago) link
LALALALALA
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:10 (seven years ago) link
What? You mean we almost elected a racist as president?
Whew! Way to dodge a bullet there USA
― waterbear say hi to me (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:35 (seven years ago) link
It would be great if this was a part of establishing a more honest way to talk about the prison industrial complex, but I suspect it's just a way to shit on Clinton again, and many of the people outraged will be laughing at the new season of Orange is the New Black tomorrow.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:40 (seven years ago) link
I don't care about the excerpt, but the logic/morality pretzels being thrown out there in her defense over it are depressing. Take the L, people.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:41 (seven years ago) link
and yeah obviously this is just one small anecdote indicating a much, much broader issue
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:42 (seven years ago) link
I don't think it's that hard to defend her, honestly. It was tradition, and she wasn't the governor so it wasn't her call. There.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:46 (seven years ago) link
to do something would have been a huge inconvenience to them
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:47 (seven years ago) link
It's obviously horrific, and if it brings attention to the horror, good, and the Clintons clearly played their part in a horrific system. But are anyone surprised? I've never been to Arkansas, but it strikes me as exactly the kind of thing I would expect to happen in Arkansas, and we've always known Bill Clinton was the governor of Arkansas. So...
― Frederik B, Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:48 (seven years ago) link
It's just fairly typical that this was posted in the thread about Hillary Clinton, and not a thread about race or the prison system or anything else.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:53 (seven years ago) link
Simon OTM.
― Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:56 (seven years ago) link
what would be surprising is if they weren't acquainted w Trump at all during their early 90s real estate golfing with rich people heyday
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 June 2017 16:02 (seven years ago) link
It was tradition, and she wasn't the governor so it wasn't her call.
She was married to the governor. Do you not think she could have done anything about it if she'd cared to?
― jmm, Thursday, 8 June 2017 16:22 (seven years ago) link
Sure. Eleanor Roosevelt passed and signed an anti-lynching law singlehandedly.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 June 2017 16:23 (seven years ago) link