Bond #24: SPECTRE

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Agree. Also, weirdly, License to Kill has some exceptional action scenes - exciting, well-choreographed and shot, nifty stunt ideas - and the slow bits are luxurious and fun. It's (obvs) much better than Glen's other Bonds. I don't really understand second units and editors and cinematographers - presumably a change of hands there?

I wondered if anyone would rescore the opening sequence, they dropped the ball by not using the Radiohead song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4mIWoLg69Y

It's better, not that it's hard to top the Sam Smith doodle. Tomorrow Never Dies's intro rescored with kd lang's song is the best of these.

i love that kd lang song

I love the Radiohead theme, though I can sort of see why they didn't go with it - you can't really make out the lyrics.

But yeah the Sam Smith one really is crap.

The Kd Lang song is nice, yes, but the actual Sheryl Crow theme is one of the best in Bond.

Really? Not even top 10, tbh.

Surely there has been a poll for the bond songs, right ?

I think the much hated post-Goldeneye Brosnan era was strong in terms of themes that were just playful enough and not just Shirley Bassey pastiche ala Adele and Sam.

A poll would be good

I'm convinced there's already been one, but I can't find it.

voilà !

What's the best Bond theme?

but it's a bit old... might need a re-match

The rightful winner is shamefully low.

The Kd Lang song is nice, yes, but the actual Sheryl Crow theme is one of the best in Bond.

― abcfsk, Friday, December 8, 2017 5:11 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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I love kd but the sheryl tune has a way better melody, and an actual chorus, whereas the kd is just an (admittedly fun) mess of Bassey pastiche atmospherics

Still better than Smith or Adele though

Imo "license to kill" is the great underrated bond theme

I somehow don't hate the Smith one but it's still not a contender in the Bond theme sweepstakes

also the moody string bit after the 2nd chorus on the sheryl is goooorgeous

I don't understand why they haven't asked Goldfrapp yet, or would that be too obvious?

presumably it's because they look at how much of a profile the act has in the US, unfortunately

do usa’ers give a fuck about sam smith?

Right before he performed the SPECTRE theme:
At the 57th Annual Grammy Awards, held on 8 February 2015, at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, Smith performed "Stay with Me" and also received four Grammy Awards: Best New Artist, Record of the Year and Song of the Year (for "Stay with Me") and Best Pop Vocal Album (for In the Lonely Hour)

with a few exceptions (Cornell, maybe) nearly all of the last 20 years of Bond themes has been artists either at their commercial peak in the US, or with a couple top singles within the last year

they just offer it to whoever got the most solo vocal artist grammy awards half the time

I assume there's a preference towards acts on Sony labels -- Cornell, Jack White, Alicia Keys, Adele were all on Sony. Sam Smith wasn't.

A View To A Kill is the only one that seems to get regular play as just a pop song from its era. Just heard it played in this restaurant in fact.

god that was rubbish

Quite enjoyed it in the cinema, but caught a bit of it on TV last night and wasn't at all impressed.

Well.....I mean you've seen mendes other bonds?

this was the first Craig one i didn't see on a big screen, landscape porn and booming sound system would've improved the experience but i feel like somebody should've written a story for it

how does anybody fucking waste Christoph Waltz?

only the fact that i was watching it with my mum stopped me from putting my foot thru the telly

incidentally the first episode of McMafia on BBC1 last night was far better than this

yeah I think I went too easy on this one upthread, it's a bad bond. no desire at all to rewatch ever.

there are no good bonds

how does anybody fucking waste Christoph Waltz?

xp

i'm aware of your rongness on this point

this one was bad enough to make me regret all of them tho

Yeah I caught this last night for the first time and it was laughably bad.

The dreadful lifeless theme tune should have warned me what was to come really.

quite like the song, one of the least rubbish things about the whole experience

there are no good bonds

http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/d4fc01bc47ce9d36a6267106f2880236a382da96.jpg

Mendes hates Bond it's pretty obvious

i found this more diverting than skyfall but it's not very good no

This one def went through a spectacular reversal for me too, from seeing it in the theater & thinking whoa that was p great to rewatching & going ... ok wtf WAS that

(Dave Bautista henchman still great though, that chase was dope)

all that Christoph Waltz/Blofeld backstory was so fkn STUPID grrr it makes me so mad now

Skyfall held up a little better to rewatching, plus it’s shot so gorgeously I get distracted from the silly stuff

But yeah Spectre just annoys me more & more every time I put it on (ive rewatched twice since theatres)

if it helps my pals and i made best sense of this (the equal worst entry in a long series all just as bad) by assuming that everything that happens after the torture scene is only happening in bond's head as he lies unconcious and feverish on the operating table, as will be revealed in the next ep when he wakes up

it’s the worst thing to hope for bcz god how shit is THAT but tbf i kind of hope it’s true

Did ILX ever poll the best Bond film opening scene? This would be...top half.

Bond Pre-Credits Sequences: POLL

for your eyes only robbed imo