Hillary Clinton: Classic or Dud?

did she kill someone again?

she gave an interview: "I accept total responsibility for my loss, and here's whose fault it was..."

eye on the prize, Morbz

you're right she should refrain from ever appearing in public or answering questions for the rest of her time on Earth.

she had to wait an entire 100 days before she could blame everyone. that takes presidential fortitude.

YES, and it's for our own good... bcz the next step is she runs again. HEED MY WARNING. xp

no scott, she's been doing it for weeks now

i think there's zero chance she runs, i mean i cannot imagine the DNC letting her anywhere near the nomination process whatsoever, they're not that du--well, ok maybe.

Hillary Clinton says she won't run for public office again

she's not going to run again unless she wants to endure the humiliation of not even winning the nomination.

like Hubert Humphrey in '72 and '76? check

she's not going to run again gimme a break

ok, cancer kept him from running in '76, mea culpa

xp

it's much more likely that Chelsea would run, which would at least offer the lulz of causing the dirtbag left to commit seppuku.

Will put money on HRC running again in 2020. Don't think she would get nominated though.

Who else is there? Warren, and... um, uhhh....

Classic

flappy, i'd bet $500 that she doesn't run in 2020. i'm sure there's some escrow website we can use or something to enforce the terms.

Classic

Buncha senators (booker, gillibrand, warren, etc) wanna run. Plus Cuomo. At least! Dems are gonna have a big field.

Also, she'll be 73 in 2020. Of course she's not going to run.

probably a decent person, bad politician with moderately bad policies. gave us donald trump.

Gillibrand said today she will not run for prez, which i find ~2% more believable than HRC

gillibrand said she wouldn't yesterday fwiw (probably not much)

Glad we're finally having this discussion. It's been too long.

the emails were classic

i'll extend that bet to anyone who thinks hillary running in 2020 is easy money

shameless co-opter/panderer. good debater. very hard worker. knows policy as well as anyone. voted for iraq war and learned pretty much zero lessons from it. married to bill. overall admirable response to decades-long smear campaign.

Hillary Clinton did not give us Donald Trump. People who voted for Donald Trump gave us Donald Trump; I am not willing to delegate that responsibility away from the people who marked his name on their ballots.

i will say that 10 years ago it would have been a lot more fashionable to hate hillary on the left. i personally find the reclamation efforts pretty transparently disingenuous but i understand that that's how the current left-of-center political zeitgeist wants to see things

Anyone as wealthy as the Clintons is overwhelmingly likely to be a dud.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/387201/BILL-CLINTON-AL-GORE-SHORTS.jpg

thanks djp

Would say automatically but Dirk Nowitzki and Lebron seem pretty cool. I wouldn't want either to be President, though.

i will say that 10 years ago it would have been a lot more fashionable to hate hillary on the left

is it not incredibly fashionable now

that photo -- it's Hillary out with her gay manfriend!

on the bernie left it is for sure. i think the intersectional left currently is making a point of being pro-hillary, which again is understandable from an optics standpoint but kind of hollow imo

i will say that 10 years ago it would have been a lot more fashionable to hate hillary on the left.

don't understand this, hating Hillary is practically prerequisite for being progressive these days.

sorry when i say left there i don't mean hard left, obv they've always hated the clintons and always will

Minorities understand her like whites never will, as shown in the turnout.

I don't think it's "hollow" if you're a woman. My wife still hasn't gotten over November and it's hard to blame her.

it's because she's much more deserving of it now xxp

"$675,000? I don't know, it's what they were paying." Really what is up with these progressives who can't see she's on the side of the angels, and a true "ally" of "everyday Americans"?

yes, like Alfred said.

sentimental bullshit

you got it, that's the spirit that's making America great again!

you are a minority of one, it's true

I wouldn't really call you sentimental, Morbius.

Who else is there? Warren, and... um, uhhh....

― flappy bird, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:01 (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i doubt warren is especially liable to win over the "lock her up" brigade, even if I do enjoy watching her grilling bankers, it makes me feel powerful.

i'm not going to be quite as harsh as morbs because i think the lingering feelings are legitimate, but i def think there is a certain tendentious revisionism currently in fashion among certain people under the democratic umbrella that has more to do with her differences with donald trump than it does with her own virtues

huh?

she's viewed favorably because people would rather her be president

she*

(i mean, with good reason obv)