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No, I read nothing about the film anywhere, after reading the blurb and reviews of the book I had absolutely no reason to.

Do we know why the book had to be set in Chicago? Because it was too English?

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

the book was set in london the film was set in chicago

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

it was set in chicago because it was NOT FUCKING AMERICAN ENOUGH!!!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

They should have set it in Kilmarnock.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i couldn't care less where they set it, just that saying something is too english is like saying something is too american, too black, too jewish. plain fucking moronic.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I disagree. But that's possibly only because I love it when my Irish friend slags things off for being too English.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

N - Now THAT would have been entertaining....

Dave - get over it mate, we are Scots and for historical reasons are entitled to complain about things being too english, so ner.

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

It was set in Chicago because the musical Chicago had just come to London and the whole fabric of society would have collapsed unless art evened itself out.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah don't you know you're supposed to like all things equally? what's wroung with you?

xxxpost

― ooops, Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm half-scottish, half-irish.
to be honest i am glad i had the privilege of growing up in england, not scotland, otherwise i could have had a cultural life that consisted entirely of tennents super, sectarian football hooliganism and heroin.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, Dave.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

No, making sweeping generilisations is moronic.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave, you have my sympathy.

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)

okay, okay - you gave the world golf, i could have had that if if was, like, real lucky.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Where I pointed out that a book was too english and had to be made more 'american' for a wider audience, I wasn't being a narrow minded racist buffoon. Unlike your goodself to whom insulting people who are not being offensive seems to come frighteningly easily.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, well I'm from Essex and I used to be a goth. You can't get more marginalised than that.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

exactly - it was a really stupid thing for me to say and that wasn't what you were saying at all. it was a flippant classic kneekjerk bit of english-hating. i KNOW when i'm being an idiot.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread is not English enough. I demand some stiff upper lip.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)

But you're alright now, right Mikey?

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Um, are you sure Dave?

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

sure about what?

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm fine thanks. Although after Chris & Vicky's wedding, my girlfriend asked what music we would have if we got married. I said Bauhaus.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Why on earth would you say it's english-hating? Again, generalisation. Do all Scots hate the English? Even ones like myself with English relatives? How the hell can you possibly categorise me? Someone you know nothing about other than the personality you appear to have attributed to me? You foolish foolish man.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm fine thanks. Although after Chris & Vicky's wedding, my girlfriend asked what music we would have if we got married. I said Bauhaus.

the proclaimers

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)

x-post - well you said "too englishy" (whatever the fuck that is) as perjorative. i'm just calling it as i see it.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Madness.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

So wait, you're from _Scotland_, and you're complaining it's too English? Well, fair enough I suppose, it is a book.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Eh, look at Smees post regarding the setting and culture-speak in the book and you'll know what I meant.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Too uplifting.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

The Proclaimers that is. Not this silly argument.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

In chimes Andrew with a racist comment against Scots. Here we go. Sigh.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

that i might benefit from the many delights scotland has bestowed on us poor philistine folks south of the border, i will listen to deacon blue and runrig for the rest of the day.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, when someone takes something out of context, gets their hackles up and starts retaliating with pish about drug addicts I feel compelled to defend myself. This is the first disagreement I have ever had on this board, as a mixed race person living in Scotland I do not have any strong patriotic ties so I would have absolutely no reason to chant racist pish to anyone. And I don't.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

"In chimes Andrew with a racist comment against Scots. Here we go. Sigh."

Am I reading a different thread? Is what Andrew said racist?

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

It clearly implied that 'scots don't read books'. Or am I misconstruing this? Please explain if I am.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

It didn't come across that way to me. Only Andrew will know of course. I think you're a little wound up and reading between the lines.

I say we all take our clothes off.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Ignore Andrew F, he's showing his usual arrogant English cultural imperialistic snobbery.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

you said something was TOO ENGLISH - i know i was talking bollocks... i was doing it to prove a point

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah andrew's the worst example of stuck-up englishness, just like that ronan

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Can I point out that delicious irony that half the bands bigged up in the film are SCOTTISH?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

To prove a point. Okay, tell me what i said that was in any way derogatory to english people. Go on. Something preferably on par with your sick-making drug addict/sectarianism quip.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

oh i am not repeating myself again... and don't forget the alcoholics

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Are any of the bands Runrig or the Proclaimers? Deacon Blue? Cause this is the only music we produce Matt.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Repeating yourself? You haven't yet stated what my racially pointed comment was.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Donald where's your trousers?

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

That and the natural music of the agonised screams of tenement blocks.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

The Beta Band bit is naffest evah. I was tres disappointed with the film, and I like Cusack AND Jack Black. It's no 'Con Air', put it that way.

BTW 'Con Air' FACT: 'In Da Club' is a clear steal off of the soundtrack. Truly.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

That's only racially pointed if you're not called Donald and you are wearing trousers.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I was winding up Scottish nationalists, a hobby of mine (the local nationalists are bit too dangerous to wind up).

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave, you're being a prick.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

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