http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/asecondtake/primer.htm
I remember the Wiki page being useful.
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 6 December 2007 09:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Okay I watched this this evening and had no fucking idea what was happening towards the end. Good job the film was so short as we ended up watching a few of the scenes twice.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 13 January 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Okay I wasn't too far off Alex's summary but I hadn't worked out the comatose guy was Rachel's dad. Also I didn't really get who Rachel was - was it the wife or someone else we barely see onscreen?
The scene among the fountains was hugely annoying in that they drowned out the dialogue. I agree with Forks in that I didn't really care what happened to the characters, but it had never occurred to me that a pen wouldn't work in zero gravity before.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 13 January 2008 23:19 (sixteen years ago) link
What was the deal with the last scene and the French translator guy?
One of the Aarons - either 1, 2, or 3 is apparently building an airplane hangar-sized version of the time machine.
Finally got around to watching this and loved it a lot.
― Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Why is there a bow on the refrigerator? What's up with the rats in the attic? Who is Rachel and why do we give a shit if her boyfriend is trying to shoot her?
So tempted to start answering year-old questions, but the number of exhaustive internet sites tackling this job makes it a particular waste.
Not that a lot of talk gets put into this, usually, but: I think the fact that people can do exhaustive plot-tackling with this film says really great things about the non-plot aspects of it -- I don't know that I've read many people talking about light or mood or sound in this thing (since they're obviously overshadowed), but they're all pretty great, I think
― nabisco, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Ouch. My head hurts.
― krakow, Monday, 23 November 2009 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link
It's very simple:
http://deckardpl.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/primer_timeline.jpg
― Biodegradable (Derelict), Monday, 23 November 2009 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link
blatant bragging 2009 but i didn't find this too hard to follow
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Monday, 23 November 2009 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link
everything after the big shootout in the whorehouse is a fantasy, and once you realise that it's simple.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Monday, 23 November 2009 01:49 (fourteen years ago) link
The last 15 minutes are a trial, because the director didn't establish many cues as to which timeline was being followed. It really could have captured more viewers with costume designers cued into the plot, and a few more establishing shots for time-contiguous sections. I don't expect to be spoon fed, but any movie that is incomprehensible after 1 pint is pushing it.
It succeeded marvelously in capturing the geeky excitement of places like Hewlett and Packards garage.
― Biodegradable (Derelict), Monday, 23 November 2009 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link
I get it now. But I watched it twice in one afternoon. Rats in the attic, indeed.
Brilliant, btw.
― kenan, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 03:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Funny true story: So I'm watching this for the second time on my computer, and at one point I pause to check email on a different virtual desktop, and then I absently double click on the icon and restart a second copy of the movie, which made me chuckle. Then I went to the playlist, and it listed "Primer," "Primer (1)," and "Primer (2)," and I realized that I had yet a third copy of the movie, the one I watched the first time, paused on yet another virtual desktop.
― kenan, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link
And then I started bleeding from the ear.
timecrimes wz better
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 04:18 (fourteen years ago) link
lol
― Nhex, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link
yessss timecrimes! gets points for laffs.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 22 December 2009 04:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Please do me a favor and take this scurvy
― =皿= (dyao), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 05:11 (fourteen years ago) link
whats everybody talking about
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 05:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I watched Timecrimes and then Spider Forest (Korean film) and thought I was going a bit mad.
― Not the real Village People, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 06:53 (fourteen years ago) link
timecrimes is the baby version of primer
― leave garbage snickers eat snickers leave garbage (jeff), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 08:28 (fourteen years ago) link
aww no need to take sides
― Nhex, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 08:41 (fourteen years ago) link
http://realdupont.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/470who-needs-training-wheels.jpg
― leave garbage snickers eat snickers leave garbage (jeff), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 08:43 (fourteen years ago) link
she loves timecrimes
primer is the autistic nerd version of timecrimes
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
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― rhythm fixated member (chap), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link
One reviewer said that "anybody who claims to fully understand what's going on in Primer after seeing it just once is either a savant or a liar."
Phew.
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link
From Wiki.
A Topiary is the upcoming American science fiction drama film by Shane Carruth, a mathematician and a former engineer, known for his previous film Primer.
After Primer, Shane Carruth started working on his second film. In 2009, David Sullivan, one of the leads in Primer, claimed on his Twitter that "Shane Carruth's next project, A Topiary, is in the early stages of pre-production." He also stated he would have a part in this film, to what degree is unknown. Filmmaker Rian Johnson also posted: "Shane... has a mind-blowing sci-fi script. Let's all pray to the movie-gods that he gets it made soon."[1] In 2010, several news sources reported that A Topiary is in the works, and that the script is written. According to Carruth in an interview to io9, "The website for now is just a place mark as financing has yet to be completed. I'm cautiously optimistic that this can happen soon and couldn't be happier with the filmmakers that have committed to the project so far.
In the movie's prologue, it's the 1980's, and Department of Transportation worker Acre Stowe has been trying to find the perfect spot for a first response center which can quickly and easily get to the location which has the most accidents in the area. But while looking, he starts noticing a mysterious pattern repeatedly showing up all over, and even in the form of starbursts. Soon along with a friend, he gets involved with a group of scientists who investigate this phenomenon for several years until finally hitting a dead end.
After this apparent precursor, a new story starts about a group of boys aged 7-12 who somehow are in possession of a mysterious box they call the "Maker" which allows them to create strange disks and other devices which have various properties, until they discover a way to create sentient creatures with the Maker. They call these "Choruses" and use them for various friendly battles. However, soon after mysterious incidents involving the mechanical beings start to occur, the boys begin to realize that they may have seriously underestimated the powers of the Maker and the Choruses, and more importantly, the ever-growing splinter in their group.
Excited!
― bRon To Run (MaresNest), Saturday, 16 April 2011 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link
sounds v similar to primer tho, but will watch out for this alright
― the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 April 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Nice. Was there a Philip K. Dick short story that sounds a little like the 'Maker' thing?
― Not the real Village People, Saturday, 16 April 2011 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link
I have finally seen this film. I liked it. I am now working on ways of making an army of duplicates of myself using their machine.
― The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
but at what cost re: gentrification
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/first-look-shane-carruths-new-sundance-2013-film-upstream-color/
First Look: Shane Carruth's New Film Upstream Color
"A man and woman are drawn together, entangled in the life cycle of an ageless organism. Identity becomes an illusion as they struggle to assemble the loose fragments of wrecked lives." ... the title "upstream color" might be referring to "an esoteric biopharmeceutical term that describes impurities present early in the processing/manufacture of a chemical."
EEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeee
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Sunday, 2 December 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
Sad that he's dumbed down and sold out.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 2 December 2012 08:23 (eleven years ago) link
At first glance I like the premise of 'A Topiary' better, wonder why it was parked.
― MaresNest, Sunday, 2 December 2012 11:33 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdYO3KWmcv8
please don't suck please don't suck please don't suck
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U9KmAlrEXU
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
Just rewatched Primer for the first time since '04. I followed more of it this time, but I still lost it somewhere in the last 15 minutes. The trailer for the new one looks worryingly Malick-like, but I'm hoping it's not as po-faced as advertised.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 31 January 2013 04:13 (eleven years ago) link
a malick-like sci-fi thriller is sorta like my platonic ideal of a movie.
just saw primer a few days ago for first time. i was really impressed.
― ryan, Thursday, 31 January 2013 04:15 (eleven years ago) link
It's really pretty great. I was surprised how much I liked it on a revisit. And fwiw, Soderbergh likes the new one:
Are there young filmmakers you’re excited about?
Shane Carruth. He did the film Primer, and he’s got a terrific new movie at Sundance.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 31 January 2013 04:29 (eleven years ago) link
― ryan, Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:15 AM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'd love a Malick horror film.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 31 January 2013 05:03 (eleven years ago) link
Interpretation options abound.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3217z2mr2WH3bnlYpJxlGJO08wrUCvjjGb-f2j0tPKm5dkeA6 or http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/PrimerTimeline.gif or http://media.screened.com/uploads/0/1403/248887-primer_timeline.jpg or http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/5/169429/2304580/primer_o.jpg or http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z108/btbrian14/PrimerTimeline.jpg.
― with perhaps the exception of r-r-r-r-rhythm (Sanpaku), Thursday, 31 January 2013 05:15 (eleven years ago) link
last one approximates my experience but i rolled with it.
― ryan, Thursday, 31 January 2013 05:18 (eleven years ago) link
"Tree of DEATH""Days of HELL""Badlands"
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 31 January 2013 07:01 (eleven years ago) link
just did a primer rewatch as well. it's really hard for me to deal w/primer objectively because i respect the filmmaking so much but carruth himself called it a tone poem and that's probably the right way to treat it.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:08 (eleven years ago) link
if you grew up in texas it is a great summer kind of movie
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
among the million reasons i respect the filmmaking, an excellent sense of place is one of them
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:34 (eleven years ago) link
oh, I've got time for this movie. it's got so much dallas/houston in it... bright, blown out, no shadows, empty hallways and office parks, grassy nowheres, roads always in the background, fever dreams of august or september. and the escalating hostility and paranoia that never comes to a head. oh yes.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 11 April 2013 04:22 (eleven years ago) link
a labyrinth of open spaces
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 11 April 2013 04:23 (eleven years ago) link
totally otm. i didnt know it was set in texas the first time i saw it but immediately was able to identify the setting.
― ryan, Thursday, 11 April 2013 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
I think "Primer" makes perfect sense, but only for a few minutes, until you forget why it made perfect sense. (See also: aforementioned elaborate flowchart)
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2013 14:53 (eleven years ago) link