Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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I had not expected the logical conclusion of 'domestic/emotional work is labour' to be 'it's fine for state employees to have separate full time jobs' but hats off to whoever comissioned her to write 250 words of reminiscences about it.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 10 April 2017 10:33 (nine years ago)

it misses the point on so many levels it reads like satire

'it's is my life' - jon bovi (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 April 2017 10:38 (nine years ago)

tbf Katharine Whitehorn was born in 1793.

She is one of those Fleet Street legends who, I imagine, the Observer might find it hard to say "time for this column to end" to.

Alba, Monday, 10 April 2017 12:56 (nine years ago)

Who is she? I've never heard of her, and I'm familiar with far more shit hacks than I care to be

why labour 'foot problems' since 2015? (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 10 April 2017 13:17 (nine years ago)

She has been a columnist since the '60s and is half pioneer, half Polly Filla.

syzygy stardust (suzy), Monday, 10 April 2017 13:20 (nine years ago)

she's written about etiquette and changing social mores since time immemorial -- her first book, "cookery in a bedsitter", is as old as i am

somewhere i have a copy of "whitehorn's social survival" (from 1968), which i remember thinking was funny and sensible back when i was a kid (tho i probably responded more to the mel calman cartoons than her writing)

mark s, Monday, 10 April 2017 13:25 (nine years ago)

a bad day when you learn nothing new huh

why labour 'foot problems' since 2015? (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 10 April 2017 13:27 (nine years ago)

She's the same KW who wrote Cooking in a Bedsitter? Well I never.

Madchen, Monday, 10 April 2017 13:49 (nine years ago)

kw in the 60s:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44903000/jpg/_44903405_whitehorn_getty_466.jpg

mark s, Monday, 10 April 2017 13:53 (nine years ago)

Looks more like the 50s.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 10 April 2017 13:54 (nine years ago)

it does and i think it probably is (photo by bert hardy)

mark s, Monday, 10 April 2017 14:00 (nine years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/20/robots-racist-sexist-people-machines-ai-language

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Thursday, 20 April 2017 13:36 (nine years ago)

Maciej Ceglowski quote very good

El Tomboto, Thursday, 20 April 2017 13:53 (nine years ago)

lol so they *can* hear him

https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/852583298014564352

sktsh, Friday, 21 April 2017 11:21 (nine years ago)

three weeks pass...

peter bradshaw devotes 1,600 words of laser-focused insight today to the radical notion that the star wars series might in fact be... a soap opera?

fuck sake brian get it together

PRESIDENT STEAMPUNK J. BRAINSTEM (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 11:47 (nine years ago)

*peter obv

PRESIDENT STEAMPUNK J. BRAINSTEM (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 11:47 (nine years ago)

I don't buy it, soap operas are hugely popular and have zero emotional stakes because their plotlines endlessly rewrite their own past in order to maintain fan service

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 May 2017 11:52 (nine years ago)

*golf clap*

PRESIDENT STEAMPUNK J. BRAINSTEM (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 12:00 (nine years ago)

i wish i had the required video skills to create a return of the jedi finale where luke pops off vader's helmet and is greeted by a wheezing phil mitchell

PRESIDENT STEAMPUNK J. BRAINSTEM (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 12:02 (nine years ago)

supreme leader snoke turns out to be a digital recreation of hilda ogden

PRESIDENT STEAMPUNK J. BRAINSTEM (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 May 2017 12:07 (nine years ago)

For all the abuse the Guardian gets, I don't think it has ever scraped these levels:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/business-39896838/a-cheaper-tastier-way-to-eat-lunch-at-work

How making a sandwich rather than buying a pre-packed one is a "life hack".

The idea came to me when I went to buy my usual lunch on my work break. I could buy my same old sandwich... OR... all the ingredients are in the supermarket for me to construct my own one."

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:11 (nine years ago)

mmm tasty

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:15 (nine years ago)

sounds so close to lg in full satire mode that really theres no point anymore

spud called maris (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:16 (nine years ago)

Graun really desperate to get some of that lunch money right?

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:18 (nine years ago)

whilst at the same time making a very convincing case for not giving it to them

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:20 (nine years ago)

Digital storyteller for @BBCNews: #WorldHacks, @BBCtrending. #mojo evangelist. Creator: #CEOSecrets,

Not simply a life hack but a #worldhack.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:21 (nine years ago)

#CEOSecrets

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:23 (nine years ago)

#CEOSecrets 1. paying taxes is for suckers

Neil S, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:24 (nine years ago)

a bit of the old trenchant social commentary there

Neil S, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:25 (nine years ago)

assumed CEO stood for Cheese, Egg, Onion

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:25 (nine years ago)

One good thing about music
When it hits you feel no pain
So hit me with music
Hit me with music now
Hit me with music, hit me with music
Look at that, Trenchant rock
I say don't watch that, Trenchant rock
If you big fish or sprat, Trenchant rock
You reap what you sow, Trenchant rock
And everyone know now, Trenchant rock

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:28 (nine years ago)

- Bob Marley

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:28 (nine years ago)

the idea came to me as i was tying my shoelaces. why had no one invented shoes without laces, i asked? this report sheds light on the truth - someone has.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:30 (nine years ago)

a good journalist finds stories all around him!

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:30 (nine years ago)

it could be something as simple as eating a sandwich! not all journalism is woodward and bernstein!

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:30 (nine years ago)

Full disclosure: I was secretly hoping someone who actually does read the Guardian would point out to me they already had done a similar feature.

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:31 (nine years ago)

Although I did find this:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jul/05/how-to-eat-a-sausage-sandwich

Split your sausages lengthways. This will allow you to build thorough, corrugated sausage coverage.

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:34 (nine years ago)

That Favouritism thing.. is funny.

Father's role in society is to provide help and assistance to their daughters, you can see it in the adverts: Dad buys Daughter a car to help her through uni, she's all "thank you dad you I love" - Sons, at best, get a dad to help them fix the motor that they bought themselves.

That's not meant as a generalisation, that's how it's presented and that's how some are expected to fall into place.

My dad identified so strongly with my sister, it was like every achievement she made or any positive character facet was something that he liked to assign to himself - Not exactly "chip off the old block" but almost more that he modified himself after the event.

Of course, she got a boyf, and all those things came crashing down. Foreign, flashy, all he was after was a passport to live in the UK. (They were hugely similar in a lot of ways, but.) He refused to do anything to do with the Wedding, but he still made the speech, etc. like there was nothing wrong.

Anyway, they had a son, they eventually got divo, they had a hard time of it and a lot of it was their own doing. But that was almost the point where he decided she was less of a paragon of his own virtue, and more a deluded idiot that fell for a flashy swine that had ulterior motives.

Anyway, you'll never guess what happened next.

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:35 (nine years ago)

You're right, I can't

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 11:19 (nine years ago)

that adult-aged correspondent realises that chips are made out of potatoes in the next thrilling instalment. And then he explains why TM is going to be a whizz at post-Brexit negotiations because she actually made a burger from scratch once.

calzino, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 11:49 (nine years ago)

Nah, he 'ran off' with his secretary, and eventually brought her back into England with him...

I've see him twice since our wedding, he's met the kids once, when they were three and one.

Story ends. That's the short version.

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 12:49 (nine years ago)

The point of relating that tale, was that yeah, favouritism sucks, but in my particular case, he loses more than I do.

And now, back to ..

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 12:51 (nine years ago)

I'm finally glad to be an only child. Thanks, ILX.

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 12:56 (nine years ago)

always been kinda jealous of orphans meself

spud called maris (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 13:38 (nine years ago)

two weeks pass...

Shooting fish in a barrel this one...

https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2017/may/31/sgt-pepper-at-50-could-the-beatles-masterpiece-unite-brexit-Britain

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 16:38 (nine years ago)

gone already?

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 16:49 (nine years ago)

Huh, it was on the front page?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2017/may/31/sgt-pepper-at-50-could-the-beatles-masterpiece-unite-brexit-Britain

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 16:50 (nine years ago)

It is still up, unfortunately. They have just moved it.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 16:52 (nine years ago)


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