A thread about the Denis Villeneuve-helmed reboot of DUNE

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"...and Brad Pitt as Leto."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link

when I think of the best guy to helm a mushroom fueled sci fi epic I think of the dude who wrote forrest gump

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 21:33 (seven years ago) link

nerds everywhere increasingly ambivalent

Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Thursday, 6 April 2017 00:29 (seven years ago) link

we're talking Robocop remake ambivalent

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 6 April 2017 01:07 (seven years ago) link

I note that this fellow, who is indeed an industry pro (to a fault, perhaps) also wrote The Horse Whisperer and The Concorde...Airport 79.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 April 2017 01:40 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

I feel like if Blade Runner 2049 bombs maybe this doesn't have to happen

El Tomboto, Saturday, 15 July 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link

At least not with that screenwriter either.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 July 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

Well, it's still happening and...this is actually a smart idea.

https://www.avclub.com/denis-villeneuve-says-hes-now-making-two-dune-movies-1823660070

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2018 23:50 (six years ago) link

this guy started out so promisingly, and now it's nerdstuff til he's done

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 March 2018 03:54 (six years ago) link

Gotta get paid. To be fair this is top tier nerd stuff, imo.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 10 March 2018 03:59 (six years ago) link

nertz to that, other filmmakers alternate lucre with arthouse

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:02 (six years ago) link

Kinda having it both ways simultaneously now. As much as you can for Mega Budget sci fi. I’m glad he’s around and doing these things.

circa1916, Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:09 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

LONG LIVE THE CHALAMET

Timothee Chalamet (@RealChalamet) in talks to star in Denis Villeneuve's 'Dune' https://t.co/CLKsqLD7jV pic.twitter.com/k6r8WvadDU

— Hollywood Reporter (@THR) July 16, 2018

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link

I'm trying to think of who they could cast to plausibly lose a duel to T.C. Paul Dano?

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 July 2018 20:46 (five years ago) link

Smart move

I have just received Draft #4 of the DUNE screenplay from Legendary Pictures. This is for the first movie, covering approximately half of the novel DUNE. I'm very excited and pleased about this, and I'm beginning to burn the midnight oil. pic.twitter.com/nIfgb2zJ2J

— Brian Herbert (@DuneAuthor) July 23, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link

Feel like Brian Herbert being very excited and pleased about the dune screenplay is a bad sign.

Dan I., Thursday, 26 July 2018 01:44 (five years ago) link

Oh my god yes, get him away from it!
"DuneAuthor" as his Twitter handle, what a nerve.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 26 July 2018 01:50 (five years ago) link

If I wanted to read the Dune series should I stop at Chapterhouse or are their post Frank Herbert books worth reading?

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 26 July 2018 03:34 (five years ago) link

The consensus is that the post-FH books are pretty weak fanfic at best. Certainly when I picked one of them up in a bookstore I found the writing cringeworthy, and apparently the stories are not much chop ("you know how they ended up banning thinking machines? well here's a story where a thinking machine went bad and t was bad for humanity so they fought back and outlawed them").

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 26 July 2018 04:42 (five years ago) link

Ok so basically like ‘Solo’ then, got it, thanks.

I never got further than ‘Children’ and that was years ago. I wouldn’t mind revisiting them.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 26 July 2018 13:56 (five years ago) link

I think I have about 150 pages or so left to read in Chapterhouse Dune. I stopped reading it about 20 years ago, every once in a while I have the urge to go back and finish it. I still have the book on the bookshelf with the bookmark where I stopped.

silverfish, Thursday, 26 July 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

(Kinda brilliant, really -- that was the only role I could guess would work for him and behold. Also enough of a blank slate character in the book that they can really go to town.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 January 2019 23:11 (five years ago) link

And Stellan Skarsgard as Baron Harkonnen

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/stellan-skarsg-play-villain-legendarys-dune-1174870

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 21:00 (five years ago) link

This cast is getting more and more interesting by the day. Charlotte Rampling as Gaius Helen Mohiam.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/charlotte-rampling-joins-timothee-chalamet-dune-1176429

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 00:57 (five years ago) link

I saw the Lynch version for the first time last year and was surprised to find that it was a faithful and fairly straight-ahead adaptation of the book, hampered by apparently not having shot enough scenes, or else having had the connective tissue edited out by the studio and replaced by voiceover in a panic

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 01:07 (five years ago) link

anyway I'll watch this for Timothee

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 01:08 (five years ago) link

Herbert’s characterization beyond Paul and Jessica is pretty light,- even everyone’s favorite character, Duncan Idaho is barely in the book, so there’s a lot that casting can bring to the table. I like it so far.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 03:36 (five years ago) link

somebody should write this up

stuck in the Lidl with EU (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 03:37 (five years ago) link

Oscar Isaac potentially in as Leto.

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/oscar-isaac-dune-reboot-1203109822/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link

the first mildly enticing detail of this farrago tbh

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 18:34 (five years ago) link

Οὖτις in as a Sam Elliottesque narrator.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 18:40 (five years ago) link

“Now this big ol’ dusty planet wasn’t the kind of place folks were fit to survive on...”

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 19:30 (five years ago) link

Sometimes the you ride the warm, and sometimes the warm rides you.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 20:53 (five years ago) link

I saw the Lynch version for the first time last year and was surprised to find that it was a faithful and fairly straight-ahead adaptation of the book, hampered by apparently not having shot enough scenes, or else having had the connective tissue edited out by the studio and replaced by voiceover in a panic

There were a lot of scenes filmed that were cut from the theatrical release - the wiki page gets into some of the details. Of all the cut scenes I've always been hoping that the banquet scene would resurface. It's somewhere out there sitting in a vault - I saw some stills at the 1984 Worldcon promo presentation about three months before the release.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 21:12 (five years ago) link

with Count Fenring and the rest of that? that'd be great- i reread the book recently and forgot all about that part of it.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 21:16 (five years ago) link

in the book paul is like some suburban white kid's wet dream, total mary sue, and harkonnen is so cartoonishly evil that he comes off as parody... with that being said, the world building is fantastic enough to justify adaptations. i think this movie could really be great if the characters get fleshed out. cast is promising, fingers crossed

boobie, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 00:16 (five years ago) link

Not confirmed but...interesting rumor.

http://collider.com/zendaya-dune-reboot

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 21:30 (five years ago) link

all the stunt casting that’s engineered to elicit a twitter response isn’t going to change the fact that Villeneuve is gonna make this movie with all the personality of a loaf of Wonder Bread https://t.co/Md8VsfoBbR

— Awards Tse-son (@CarmanTse) January 30, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 January 2019 23:10 (five years ago) link

Kinda true, that.

So, This Leaked (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 31 January 2019 23:12 (five years ago) link

If Deakins shoots it, I'll just enjoy the view.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 January 2019 23:49 (five years ago) link

Deakins is not involved

Number None, Friday, 1 February 2019 08:48 (five years ago) link

Josh Brolin as Gurney Halleck:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/josh-brolin-joins-timothee-chalamet-dune-1186144

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:11 (five years ago) link

he may be ugly enough, but is he lumpy enough?

Dan I., Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link

josh brolin is hansy imo

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:20 (five years ago) link

Gurney NOT ugly enough and NOT lumpy enough—Dune certified rotten!!!

Dan I., Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:24 (five years ago) link

And Jason Momoa as Duncan Idaho!

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/jason-momoa-dune-reboot-legendary-1203140272/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 February 2019 23:35 (five years ago) link

My favorite thing about "Dune"? There's a character named DUNCAN IDAHO.

Was Herbert munching on breakfast one morning, glancing sleepily at some boxes on the kitchen counter: mashed potato mix here, cake mix there...? "AHAAA!!"

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 15 February 2019 00:53 (five years ago) link

Momoa angling for a multi picture deal

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 15 February 2019 01:18 (five years ago) link

God preserve us from the sequels

Norm’s Superego (silby), Friday, 15 February 2019 01:19 (five years ago) link

i was hoping 1 would have gotten a general theatrical re-release but if it did I missed it. I would not mind wasting an entire day watching these back to back in a theater.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 1 April 2024 15:53 (one month ago) link

otm. they did put part 1 back in theaters briefly, but at least in my area it was over & done with a week or two before part 2 came out, so there was no chance to double feature them, which was frustrating.

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 1 April 2024 16:03 (one month ago) link

I finally saw Dune part 1 on an airplane, surely not the ideal viewing configuration, but it exceeded my somewhat modest expectations. I loved the book as a young sci-fi fan, and enjoyed the Lynch film. This version is perhaps better. It does a good job of finding the core of the story and building suspense in the right places. The pacing seemed about right. It wasn't as ponderous as I had been led to believe.

o. nate, Monday, 1 April 2024 16:09 (one month ago) link

here was actually surprisingly little up-close spice-related action or even conversation

― mark s, Saturday, October 23, 2021 3:36 PM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

kind of weird to adapt dune and barely touch on melange

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 21:36 (one month ago) link

well there was a lot of different things mixed in there tbf

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 21:53 (one month ago) link

Melange definitely better than her sister Beyonce

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 23:42 (one month ago) link

^^^ music inspired by the book

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 11 April 2024 09:30 (one month ago) link

Saw the first film on Netflix a couple of days ago. Initial thought is this would've annoyed me if there was no sequel. It literally fucking stops.

Will watch the followup if it's still playing somewhere. Imagine waiting years for this. Not me mate

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 April 2024 11:47 (one month ago) link

The music was very funny when the subs were trying to convey..

Low tense music
Tense music
Dramatic music
Loud dramatic music
Yodelling

Now forget but I wanted to make a poll on these

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 April 2024 11:49 (one month ago) link

amazing issue to take with a movie that has sequels baked in but yeah ok

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 April 2024 12:07 (one month ago) link

👍

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 April 2024 12:52 (one month ago) link

The music in the first film is probably the closest I can think of to a film using the score as pure sound effects.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:26 (one month ago) link

eraserhead is the original dune the movie

mark s, Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:28 (one month ago) link

what we need is prequels

“i don't like sand. it's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere”

scanner darkly, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:28 (one month ago) link

I finally finished this and was surprised that Feyd was not also a skarsgard, because the actor was doing a pretty good skarsgard impression, and made me wish Jessie Armstrong had adapted Dune as the next season of Succession.
Also, House Skarsgard sounds like a credible Dune faction.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 19:45 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

Zendaya and Timothee - bad actors, zero chemistry for their great love that ends in betrayal
all the charismatic actors from the first one are dead (papa Atreides, Khal Drogo, the Dr from Strange New Worlds) or sidelined to glower and yell (Rebecca Ferguson)
the Harkonnens and Emperor just let all 500k mujahideen roll up 100 yards away from the emperor's ship because they couldn't see them over a hill?
whole lot of dragging in the middle - could have either been an hour shorter or split into three normal length movies

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 26 May 2024 04:03 (three days ago) link

the gladiator scene with the lesser Harkonnen who looks like an extra from Fury Road - oh you tried to KILL ME by... not completely drugging one of the guys who's been in a dungeon for months. Seems more like changing the video game difficulty from rookie to easy IMO than a real test

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 26 May 2024 04:13 (three days ago) link

Wasn’t that kind of the point tho

It was on a accident (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 26 May 2024 05:29 (three days ago) link

Lesser Harkonnen seemed pretty serious about it and that was his rite of passage to take over from Drax

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 26 May 2024 05:36 (three days ago) link

It was political theatre tho, like yeah he was supposed to make a big show if it but it wasn’t a CONTEST it was a SHOW, like Barron Trump “running” in 2032.

It was on a accident (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 26 May 2024 06:00 (three days ago) link

Hard agree that Ferguson got the short end of the stick this time around. She deserves better than to look arresting & spew portents.

It was on a accident (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 26 May 2024 06:01 (three days ago) link

Zendaya and Timothee - bad actors, zero chemistry for their great love that ends in betrayal

The ending was hilarious.

"Sorry, love of my life, gotta marry this white girl for politics, you understand...you'll be sticking around for the holy war, though, right?"

*Zendaya makes her default pissed-off face, leaves to catch the bus*

I think it would be cool if they did special editions of these with extra scenes, if they exist. The second one in particular feels like it had a bunch of stuff chopped out, everything happens very abruptly.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 03:57 (yesterday) link

Sure, but it'll have been chopped out at the "getting the book down to two films" stage of writing, I'd expect.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 07:23 (yesterday) link

Denis says “non”: https://collider.com/dune-deleted-scenes-denis-villeneuve/

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 07:50 (yesterday) link

Really enjoyed the second film. This might actually get me to reread the book for the first time in like 25 years.

octobeard, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 08:21 (yesterday) link

milo z so otm about this. what a drag! pretty to look at, but man not much there for me

a (waterface), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 13:22 (eight hours ago) link


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