Magic: The Gathering C/D

the player numbers on the draft leagues look high until you realize that pretty much everyone who plays mtgo plays those

right yeah. for legacy leagues it's like a small town where everyone knows each other.

yeah gifts was a real groan both times. i was v jealous of how much more fun your deck was than mine.

btw i could see your last couple msgs after i conceded but of course it wouldn't let reply. another great mtgo innovation.

cider my username is onami. are you still smh? i don't recall ever seeing you

yeah i've been playing on an alternate account a bunch lately since it had some play points / QPs on it that i wanted to use but smh is still my main one and i'll be back on it for amonkhet

I remember frogbs figured out from this thread that he and I had played against each other in Cube

sounds about right. I remember once playing against someone in a draft whose username was the name of a good friend of mine, someone I'd been playing Magic with since I was 11, but didn't know played online. I messaged him on FB - "dude, am I playing you on MTGO" right now? turns out it was him. he kicked my ass, by the way.

we get Cat lord

also some good hosers for Scrapheap Scrounger, Saheeli, and artifacts in general

cat lord so strong for limited, getting ready to hate that card.

the throne strikes me as more of a fun that competitive card, but it is interesting coming right after improvise. could maybe be something there for standard.

and another efficiently costed large blue flyer. i wonder if there might be some kind of blue dump-your-hand aggro deck here.

lol at this 4/4 lifelink for 1w. always watching is still legal right? if we can get white a competitive planeswalker, maybe one that makes tokens even, there might be something here.

Throne being legendary makes it more difficult as a build around but it still seems quite good - are there any viable improvise decks in standard?

Really like some of the exert designs. The exert to draw creature seems like it creates two interesting decisions: a decision between racing and card advantage if they don't have a blocker; and a decision whether to "cycle" the card if they have a big blocker. combined with actual cycling, my hunch is that this will be a limited format pros will like

the ceiling on this limited format is pretty high since it essentially has both of the 2 best limited mechanics (flashback and cycling)

one thing that people tend to get wrong though is they see mana sink mechanics with expensive costs like embalm, flashback, monstrosity and assume that they are getting a slow grindy format when it actually has the opposite effect - more things to do with mana means proactive decks get to play more turns before they run out of gas, and their 6th/7th land can remain live where in a set like kaladesh it was just a dead draw

the liliana is very good and deserves more attention than the gideon imo

5 mana walkers have to clear a pretty high bar, even for standard. I think it will see some play, but I'm not convinced it's very good.

planeswalkers that can make blockers every turn without spending loyalty have an extremely high floor

strong card but this is kind of exactly the kind of thing i was thinking of when i was talking about how they should do planeswalkers. i do think this will be impactful on standard but i can't imagine it ever getting the moans that gideon AOZ has.

not a fan of the name tho.

it is awkward that the EMN liliana is so good already and does similar stuff, i'd probably want a split of 1 of these and 2-3 of the EMN one in liliana decks for now

so Champion of Rhonas, there's no possible way this card is healthy at all

what the hell

not to be extremely magic player but it seems worse than marvel currently? and marvel isnt all the great rn

did elvish piper ever see constructed play?

this effect is never quite as good as you think, is what i'm getting at. at least on a tap ability on a creature.

ha i was wondering the same thing so i did a quick mtgtop8 search and it was played in 12-post in modern before that deck got banned out. could not find any other finishes. also a popular edh card unsurprisingly

i like how all the trials are just replacements for the (should be) rotating oaths. having a hard time getting a handle and the new set: nothings all that powerful but lots of hate for vehicles.

the embalm angel eats planeswalkers which is useful in standard

this set reminds me of theros not only in the ancient civ theme but also in how unconcerned it seems with what's going on in the sets preceding it

does champion of rhonas have potential to be better right now than previous examples of this effect because of traverse?

there seem to be a fair amount of overlap with SOI but i guess unsurprisingly little connection with KLD

KLD is the classic example of the lifecycle of a set whose constructed-worthy mechanics are linear - it takes over standard on release when it's a large % of the cardpool and then its influence wanes as its decks can't get new cards. we saw the same thing with Theros and devotion. KLD has hit particularly hard because of how much of a bust BFZ was, there aren't really any allies or eldrazi decks competing for metagame share.

does champion of rhonas have potential to be better right now than previous examples of this effect because of traverse?

traverse imposes a different set of deck-building constraints that dont match up all that well w/this card. maybe if theres a variety of interesting cycling cards that bridge that gap? idk. i think the big problem is that almost anything thats really powerful to cheat into play needs a cast trigger, which this card doesnt provide.

i normally dont care abt/pay attention to spoilers but the steady drip of cards is deeply irritating to me i just want to be able to see all the cards so i can start thinking abt the new formats

http://mythicspoiler.com/akh/cards/bountyoftheluxa.jpg

feel like this is the most confusing way they could've templated this

theres no good way to do it really but yeah

Really cool design for a card, at least

yeah no doubt

got11th (11-2-2) at the scg open, lost for t8 on camera :(

had a good on camera miracles blowout match earlier in the day too

Sorry for the loss, but that's an awesome run and a great finish either way! Now I'm eager to see your footage. I missed most of today's coverage because I was busy playing like crap at a modern 1K.

playing your usual death&taxes deck? i didn't see any of the coverage

yeah dnt w/ red splash

what's the red for now that there's a white recruiter?

oh moon man

yeah moon in the main and cunning sparkmage and pia kiran in the board

I beat elves twice w/ those cards and elves is a total nightmare matchup

that's good shit dude, sorry you just missed

looks like Roar of the Wurm is back and even better

amused at all the people getting mad about the cycling force spike because it's not miscalculation. that's a pretty good card!

I think this card will be quite good

it seems like drake haven is getting enough support to be a deck, without even seeing all the black cycling cards yet

I was gonna say, Censor looks like a card that will definitely get Standard play