Worst Fourth Film In A Series

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"Ohhhh, I see, that first kid he brutally assaulted had parents."

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 March 2017 17:15 (seven years ago) link

only film u shd be discussing here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XViQa_lxzEo

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 March 2017 17:27 (seven years ago) link

4th apes is the best apes

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 31 March 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

I don't understand what that clip is from. I don't see Caesar so I assume it's from the original, but I don't see Marky Mark either. Confused!

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 March 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link

hard-pressed to say any of the POTA movies are actually good. the one w the nihilist nuke ending (II?) is certainly batshit enough to be called "interesting".

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link

you and yr ceaseless rongness

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 March 2017 17:55 (seven years ago) link

the initial Schaffner/Heston POTA is a blast, esp singing along with Jerry Goldsmith's score.

It's a planet of the apes!
Dirty filthy smelly apes!

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 March 2017 17:57 (seven years ago) link

it's a chore to sit through imo

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 March 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link

iconic final shot notwithstanding

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 March 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link

original POTA is classic

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 31 March 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link

u r BANANAS, Shakey

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 March 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link

(although it's much more impressive on a theater screen, w/ those desert vistas shot by Leon Shamroy)

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 March 2017 18:16 (seven years ago) link

Original POTA boasts maybe the greatest shot in cinema history:

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/092009/1252480395_this_is_not_what_it_looks_like.gif

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 March 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link

Gore Vidal script doctoring strikes again!

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Friday, 31 March 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link

heh

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 March 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link

I've always assumed that had to be intentional. Surely.

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 March 2017 18:46 (seven years ago) link

lol yes.

not only does it look and sound great, it is very much classic sci fi. commenting on age and race and class and all kinds of social/political issues through the lens of THE FUTURE.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 31 March 2017 19:15 (seven years ago) link

also kind of kick-started the pre-Star Wars era where all sci fi was dystopian commentary

thus necessitating the wookie

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 31 March 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQAJFVV_h-U

écorché (S-), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 02:30 (seven years ago) link

six months pass...

it's kind of a shame i limited myself to theatrical series because Leprechaun 4: In Space probably deserved some attention here.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 04:33 (six years ago) link

nuclear man 4eva

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 November 2017 02:37 (six years ago) link

lol yes those nails

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 9 November 2017 03:23 (six years ago) link

Didn't vote, but I've only seen Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, which is good, and the top two finishers, which ARE NOT *BAD* MOVIES. The others are either from series I had no interest in, or cash-ins you could smell in the next county.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2017 05:44 (six years ago) link

ahh c'mon phantom menace is a disaster. leaden shuffling around, no story, no emotions, pathetic world-building, racism...

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 November 2017 05:52 (six years ago) link

one peg down from Return of the Jedi...

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2017 06:11 (six years ago) link

when's the last time you watched either? serious question. imho jedi is a pretty good if unfocused kids' adventure movie with some clunky carpentry showing and some pacing/structure issues, but charismatic performances and a ton of craft on the screen, ranking high for the genre and time period. it's nothing on the previous two, but a good afternoon's viewing with very little to outright cringe at. phantom menace is so, so narratively inert and comparing the two really makes me like jedi more since i realize: wow, i know what the characters' motivations are! wow, the people stuck delivering exposition try to make something of it! etc....

to be fair, phantom's still not as bad as the followups. attack of the clones really is like the death of cinema. now i wonder if i should do a 'fifth' thread.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 November 2017 06:26 (six years ago) link

Crystal skull is utter shit.

But most of these movies are utter shit tbf.

Will rep for Bourne 4

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 November 2017 09:55 (six years ago) link

pls make a fifth thread doc

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_series_with_five_entries

Can't say I have a lot of enthusiasm either way once serieses get to 5.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link

Revenge of the Nerds 4 deserved to be on this list

frogbs, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link

xpost You and everyone involved in making the fifth installment of a series.

Bernard Crunderdunder (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

cool yeah imma get on this later today probs

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link

I think we can avoid the painful poll by collectively agreeing that Seed of Chucky is clearly the best fifth movie in any series.

Bernard Crunderdunder (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

FYI, that wiki list seems to be for series that tapped out at five installments. The visionaries which exceeded the bounds of sanity to create six or more films have been sadly excluded.

Bernard Crunderdunder (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

Crystal skull is utter shit.

No film with the fridge scene is "utter shit."

Doc C, I haven't seen Phantom Menace since '98, cuz why would I?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link

I guess I figured you'd have at least made it out to its original theatrical run in '99 (sorry, couldn't resist).

Yeah, last time round I spent a lot of time in the thick of Wiki pages for 11-installment series and stuff. Think I'll just start from the 4ths and see what got a 5th, with a little skimming around for anything I might have missed.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link

98/99, same thing :)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link

I think we can avoid the painful poll by collectively agreeing that Seed of Chucky is clearly the best fifth movie in any series.

Tied with Final Destination 5.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link

Fridge scene was great. The scene that, had it been excised from Crystal Skull, people *might* have gotten off its nuts a little bit more is Shia with the monkeys.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

And yeah the fridge scene and the stuff at Harvard is all solid. Lesser Spielberg but not unrecognizable and some nicely-staged action despite the distracting CGI. It really goes off a cliff hard right after the Harvard chase, though, and the opening stuff at the warehouse is really lacking a sense of magic or larger-than-lifeness.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

Spielberg had a number of "It's George's baby" quotes about that one

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link

Shia was George's baby?!

That explains a few things.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link

I just finished that recent Lucas biography and yeah, Spielberg quotes indicate that -- at least on that particular one -- when it comes to the Indy films he considers himself a for-hire director who executes George's vision, not a collaborator.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link

I....enjoyed Fast Five. It's still the only FATF film I've seen

imago, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link

Fridge scene is utter shit

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link

THE utter shit

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

Jeez, how many 5 film series would you even consider watching?

For me... Frankenstein, Dracula, Winners/Gambler, Mr Vampire (first is very overrated but I could deal), Cremaster, Zatoichi, Lassie, Monty Python (this barely counts because I don't consider the live show a proper sequel), Police Story, Once Upon A Time In China, The Street Fighter, Lone Wolf And Cub, Romero's Dead series.

Maybe Gods Must Be Crazy, I gave up early on the first film but the later films are martial arts crossover.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link

iirc the fifth Friday the 13th is bad but there are some worthwhile ones afterwards

Simon H., Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link

The thread is coming!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link


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