the trailer looks v good. i'm less sure about the time jump
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:15 (seven years ago) link
I'd've preferred that they cast the adults from the miniseries as the kids in the new movie.
― Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link
This kid they've cast as Patrick Hockstetter definitely looks like the kind of guy who would give his pal a handy in the junkyard before getting eaten by flying leeches.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4977122
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:27 (seven years ago) link
heh I revisited it earlier this year (in audiobook form) and was surprised at the gay panic running all throughout. It's one of his coke novels but also maybe his AIDS novel??
― a Brazilian professional footballer (wins), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:36 (seven years ago) link
Yeah some of that was rough to read. I imagine the thing he'd most want to retcon out of existence though is that child sex scene
― Evan R, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
You don't think we'll finally see that realised onscreen?
― a Brazilian professional footballer (wins), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:59 (seven years ago) link
christ this looks incredible!
― piscesx, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link
Is it bad that I'm looking forward to seeing the balloon in the library pop & be filled with blood
Or was that the spider
Either way HI YEP HELLO INTO IT
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 23:25 (seven years ago) link
I'm not ready for a movie that actually gets this right tbh
― virginity simple (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 March 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link
lol
― flappy bird, Thursday, 30 March 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link
It's weird, I've read It twice, and watched the mini-series a couple times as well, but that was all before I had kids of my own. Not sure how eager I am to revisit this now.
― You're going to see a lot of love. Okay? Thank you. (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link
It's difficult (and, understandable, therefore attractive) to make a case for any other SK book as his best book. I mean, if IT was the only book he ever wrote, it'd still be a horror landmark.
― The Thnig, Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:26 (seven years ago) link
For all the many terrors in the book, one of the most horrible scenes for me is when Eddie's pharmacist tries to tell him he doesn't really have asthma and his inhaler is a placebo. Just that sense of betrayal by adult authority figures, plus the illumination of his mother's domineering personality and probably Munchausen-by-proxy going on.
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link
I might be inclined to give it up for The Long Walk. That thing is lean and perfect and horrifying.
― Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link
If not for the literal hand-of-god ending The Stand would be his best in a walk. Nothing beats the chapter in which he describes all the people who were immune to the superflu but died via their own misfortune or through terrible accidents.
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:30 (seven years ago) link
Well said Lauren: the book is full of so many of those moments -- it seems like thousands of them! -- that recalling the book is almost like recalling your own past, the infinite memories that pop up. It's just so much. It's overwhelming. Something about the fact that he made it about adults/kids and about memories lends it this staying power.
― The Thnig, Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link
(re: IT, not The Stand)
Yeah there's something about the kid part that almost feels like they're my own memories? The library scenes as a kid I pictured happening in my school library
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
I still agree with my ranking from 5 years ago:
The StandItThe Long WalkMisery'Salem's Lot
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
Hard-pressed to argue with that ranking.
Also, yes, It should be read when you're a kid for the exact reasons posted.
― Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:59 (seven years ago) link
would like to see It filmed with the same tone as Stand By Me, they're pretty similar... assume this point has been made upthread in one of the 1k messages skipped but hey
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:18 (seven years ago) link
The previous adaptation of it was totally going for a stand by me vibe! And not unsuccessfully imo, it was just inept in other ways and the adult actors were awful
― a Brazilian professional footballer (wins), Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:22 (seven years ago) link
Stand By Me is a really weird and not especially good movie
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:23 (seven years ago) link
xpost I will not stand idly by as you besmirch the chops of Harry Anderson.
― Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link
lol which one was he
― a Brazilian professional footballer (wins), Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link
One of the weirdest things about that film is it's so restricted by being made for tv in terms of horror and language and sexuality and yet they are still able to throw the n word around
― a Brazilian professional footballer (wins), Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:26 (seven years ago) link
He was Richie Tozier. Even as a kid, I had no idea wtf the deal was with those casting decisions.
― Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:27 (seven years ago) link
the original is bad. like tim curry is amazing. it's interesting for me to watch because it was filmed in vancouver including a shot on a street i walked every day for a year or so that was like a half a block from my old apartment. that's about it.
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:29 (seven years ago) link
but terrible adaptation of a great, scary book
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:30 (seven years ago) link
i think the first half of the miniseries is pretty good. second half is woof
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:30 (seven years ago) link
Ugh yes. I also saw as a kid (for some weird reason) and its resonance is entirely down to the kids + curry
― a Brazilian professional footballer (wins), Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:32 (seven years ago) link
many xposts!
Young Henry bowers felt genuinely menacing when I first watched although he's just a mean tiny 11 year old with funny hair/music cues, even at the time I thought his adult counterpart was a joke
― a Brazilian professional footballer (wins), Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link
Nothing beats the chapter in which he describes all the people who were immune to the superflu but died via their own misfortune or through terrible accidents.
I think I said this here or in another SK thread but I love his writing about shit hitting the fan and society falling apart and going to hell, he does that really well. This part of the Stand was great as it was just piling on the chaos and misery.
I also want to know what experience he had as a child with a homeless person - there are crazed hobos who accost people in It and 11/22/63 and the whole murdering-and-burying homeless people thing in Apt Pupil.
― joygoat, Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link
Prominent quote on back of IT calls it the Moby-Dick of horror. Seems about right.
― The Thnig, Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link
It's definitely a novel that is trying to put everything in. Idk about Melville but it seems like the ultimate 80s maximalist horror, cocaine and AIDS and the 1950s and a nightmare on elm st
― a Brazilian professional footballer (wins), Thursday, 30 March 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link
ctrl-f "wtf with that gangbang" not found
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 30 March 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link
it's been covered
me I'm still holding out for a film version
Bev: guys I have an ideaDISCREET CUT OR MAYBE DISSOLVE (Awkward zipping up scene)
Everyone: *doesnt speak for 30 years*
― a Brazilian professional footballer (wins), Thursday, 30 March 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link
I'm a big fan of It because it seemed a marvellous Moby Dick type epic when I was 13, and it scared the shit out of me. But I've never had this coulrophobia thing, more scared of giant spiders, pan-dimensional ancient aliens and Henry Bowers types. I went to school with a Henry Bowers type who is doing life for multiple murders.
Lol! I read that post of Wins; that his viewing of the 90's It mini-series was enhanced by having a Jalfrezi while watching it!
This movie does look ok so far, but they should have done a mini-series with the adults as well, and at least try and do it justice this time.
― calzino, Thursday, 30 March 2017 20:26 (seven years ago) link
I went to school with a Henry Bowers type who is doing life for multiple murders.
Yargh.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 March 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link
do a ctrl-f for "magic punani"
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Thursday, 30 March 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link
DJP's adaptation is clearly the one that needs to happen.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 March 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link
ani get your pun
― virginity simple (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 March 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link
― a Brazilian professional footballer (wins), Thursday, March 30, 2017 1:11 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wikipedia so eloquently describes this beautiful passage:
After the battle, the victorious but badly shaken Losers begin to lose cohesion and get lost in the sewers, until Beverly has sex with all the boys to bring unity back to the group.[2] The Losers then swear a blood oath to return to Derry should It return in the future.
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 March 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link
Salem's Lot is definitely King's best book, and I love The Stand (the original 70s version, not the bloated reissue); I don't really like his coked-up 80s books, It included. Some of his recent work - Duma Key, Under the Dome, and 11/22/63 - is really solid, too.
― Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 30 March 2017 20:51 (seven years ago) link
We have a couple of really good king poll threads and tbh I'd need to read them to even be sure which of his books I'd put top 5
The one that dare not speak it's name: hearts in Atlantis. Ya i said it. And i liked insomnia.
― virginity simple (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 March 2017 20:55 (seven years ago) link
Duma Key gets legit scary in the middle; Under The Dome is great for about 3/4 but holy shit he whiffs the ending HARD
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 March 2017 20:57 (seven years ago) link
apropos of nothing I just really need to say
beep beep richie
Oh, and Revival was good, too. I read Mr. Mercedes but didn't like it enough to read either of the two(!) sequels.
― Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 30 March 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link
I thought Hearts in Atlantis had a few moments, but yeah it ultimately seemed like what it was: some discarded attempts retrieved and stitched together.
I recently finished (finally) Dreamcatcher, discussed on another thread. That one's wretched.
― You're going to see a lot of love. Okay? Thank you. (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 30 March 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link