Dogs & Cats, Living Together: TV's Legion

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I watched this with my missus and afterwards noticed that we both went completely silent when the show did.

I assumed that the last scene was David taking everyone away in the same way that he did to Syd, except Lenny is in control. The 'next week on' definitely leans that way.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 9 March 2017 23:17 (seven years ago) link

whaaaaaaat a mindfuck holy shit, how much scarier can this get jfc

gonna just fall into my old Fringe habit & just roll with this & see where it goes instead of trying to "get" it

also i dont think i want to hear Rainbow Connection for a v v long time GAH

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 March 2017 05:36 (seven years ago) link

Ha yes his version was so broken and full of terror. And man the words fit! Especially the bit he didnt sing:

Have you been half asleep and have you heard voices?
I've heard them calling my name.
Is this the sweet sound that calls the young sailors.
The voice might be one and the same.
I've heard it too many times to ignore it.
It's something that I'm supposed to be.
Someday we'll find it, the rainbow connection, the lovers, the dreamers and me.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 11 March 2017 03:51 (seven years ago) link

gaaaaaaaaaaah

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 March 2017 04:39 (seven years ago) link

lol sorry <3

I commiserate, this episode was like one of those bad dreams I have where everything is too dark and I'm desperately trying to turn lights on and they wont come on and I cant talk or move.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 11 March 2017 04:50 (seven years ago) link

the negative security-cam footage of the yellow eyed man freaked me the fuck our

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 March 2017 10:22 (seven years ago) link

Yeah that was horrifying. And a real whiplash bcs 5 seconds earlier, I was giggling at Dan gleefully dancing thru the halls, flicking his hands and obliterating soldiers into random body parts and nothingness. Then it was like hahahahOH DEAR GOD

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:21 (seven years ago) link

TBH I'd well worked out what was going on by that point though. The way he acted like another personality was done quite well.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:21 (seven years ago) link

I didn't really twig until they said it and then I was like OH OF COURSE DUH

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 March 2017 01:32 (seven years ago) link

I was a little too creeped out by his having fun at maiming people and destroying property while making light of it to laugh. Like realizing the guy you have thought of as a friend has had a knife pressed to your throat the whole time, you were just having too much fun to notice.

(Sure, it's the "bad guys" but given it's a malicious personality doing this, it's irrelevant who he did it to)

mh 😏, Sunday, 12 March 2017 02:18 (seven years ago) link

And now of course Syd is thinking "wait, did I fuck David or the monster?!? Ewwgh!"

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 13 March 2017 03:42 (seven years ago) link

yeah fucking hell

and her story of her first time was like um O_O

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 March 2017 04:00 (seven years ago) link

extra um O_O

mh 😏, Monday, 13 March 2017 14:01 (seven years ago) link

I can't be the only person thinking a) Holy Jesus that's fucked up and also b) as soon as she turned back, she'd turn into him? Or does her power have a cooldown?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 13 March 2017 14:19 (seven years ago) link

what? her actual body was in the other room

mh 😏, Monday, 13 March 2017 14:20 (seven years ago) link

oh wait, I see the confusion:

her mom's consciousness was in her body, which stayed in the living room or w/e, her consciousness was in her mom's (which she took into the other room)

mh 😏, Monday, 13 March 2017 14:21 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, and after it wears off, her body rubber-bands to her consciousness...

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 13 March 2017 14:28 (seven years ago) link

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

mh 😏, Monday, 13 March 2017 14:41 (seven years ago) link

And then would she have likely swapped with him at the moment, assuming they would be touching each other?

MarkoP, Monday, 13 March 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link

Yeah it took me a while to work out, but yes when she touches someone and they swap minds, when it wears off, the *bodies* swap back not the minds.

So yes, the bf would have suddenly found he was fucking his stepdaughter or whatever she was meant to be to him. WHich was sort of left uncommented on.

It is funny to think on though: David was the one who said "you dont want to go in my head. You wont think the same of me afterward" but arguably Syd's done worse.

Mind you this will all be moot if it turns out Syd is just one of his personalities which I am still ready to accept could happen.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 13 March 2017 22:04 (seven years ago) link

I bow to everyone's logistic excellence and am kind of glad I didn't puzzle out this startling rape/unintended sexual encounter drama while watching the episode

mh 😏, Monday, 13 March 2017 22:08 (seven years ago) link

Yeah it only occurred to me on post-show thinking. Gross.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 13 March 2017 22:09 (seven years ago) link

Hm a thought occurs: what if that wasnt Syd's story? What if it was the YED?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 13 March 2017 22:10 (seven years ago) link

I'm not down for extrapolation just yet

mh 😏, Monday, 13 March 2017 22:43 (seven years ago) link

Ha you sound like my other half. "why do you always have to try and work everything out before its happened goddammit"

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 13 March 2017 23:26 (seven years ago) link

oh, I always work stuff out, I'm just enjoying this one as it rolls

mh 😏, Monday, 13 March 2017 23:30 (seven years ago) link

They seem to play fair with who the POV character is, I think.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 13 March 2017 23:34 (seven years ago) link

while it's not position I understand where 'im indoors is coming from

mh 😏, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 00:40 (seven years ago) link

where did his sister end up? in the last scene he's zapped everyone who was in the room into his imagineered group therapy session - including telekinesis guy ("Rudy" per IMDB) and The Eye (also note Rudy is in a wheelchair in therapy-land) - but his sister wasn't in the room, so she isn't in the head space, so what did Lenny do with her?

PS I am assuming his sister was real since The Eye's employers used her as bait

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 02:14 (seven years ago) link

it's kinda too easy to miss stuff in this show. police squad / kimmy schmidt 22-jokes-a-minute is one thing, blink-and-you'll-not-know-why-that-guy-is-evil-now is not something I'm accustomed to.

Then again I did get quick enough to start figuring out most of what goes on in The Expanse so practice, practice and I forgot the third thing

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 02:17 (seven years ago) link

the expanse is a similar sort of tricky, lots of softy elements then someone does a quick move offscreen that people have to react to. that's it's thing, they never show people deciding to do things or the moments before, just the acknowledgment they started something offscreen and you have to figure out why and then wait for them to explain how

mh 😏, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 04:00 (seven years ago) link

Shit I hadnt even noticed Amy wasnt with the rest of them. I always feel like i should watch each ep twice.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 04:18 (seven years ago) link

with these kinda complicated show, I tend to just kinda relax into it & the show will eventually tell you need to know. It becomes harder to enjoy if u stress out trying to "get it". I am slowly learning that certain shows are smarter than me & I am slowly becoming ok with it

except for Hannibal which confused the christ out of me & I still dont know wtf I watched most of the final season

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 04:31 (seven years ago) link

I found Game of Thrones hard enough to follow, lol.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 04:31 (seven years ago) link

I somehow found 0% of Hannibal confusing

mh 😏, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 04:32 (seven years ago) link

at home my tv viewing is very slipshod these days compared to cinema, too much time watching while tidying or finishing off some beers

mh 😏, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 04:33 (seven years ago) link

well la dee da arent u smart lol jk

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 04:34 (seven years ago) link

I too make the mistake often of drinking while TVing. Then promptly declaring i have no effing idea whats going on all the way thru. That last Sherlock episode ruined me. No way I could be drunk watching Legion. I'd never have a clue.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 04:35 (seven years ago) link

(I am notoriously faceblind with TV/movies, though)

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 04:36 (seven years ago) link

I drove Mr Veg bananas when we watched Fringe. Felt like three times an episode I'd have to pause it like "EXPLAIN WHAT THE BLOODY EFF IS GOING ON PLEASE"

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 04:57 (seven years ago) link

Mr Veg Bananas would be an excellent login

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 04:59 (seven years ago) link

lol

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 05:17 (seven years ago) link

A lot of tv shows, I'll often have a laptop or tablet on just to keep up with football scores or browse twitter etc.

With Legion I have to make sure they're all powered off and in another room out of temptation's way. And I still miss things.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 09:23 (seven years ago) link

this fucken show

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Thursday, 16 March 2017 14:06 (seven years ago) link

Finally saw the first ep and loved it. My wife was harder to convince, since she likes neither people with powers stories nor "what is real!?" type stories. I told her to at least give it another try, since she conceded it looked cool and the acting was solid.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 March 2017 14:41 (seven years ago) link

the teaser for next week's show explaining the underlying premise for this week's show in case you didn't get it was something

mh 😏, Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:04 (seven years ago) link

this fucken show

came here to post this

sktsh, Friday, 17 March 2017 20:48 (seven years ago) link

All the lynch refs were a little ham handed, but love all the rest.

Dan I., Sunday, 19 March 2017 17:05 (seven years ago) link

So, I can gather this much now:
- Lenny is the Parasite/Devil with Yellow Eyes and has probably been attached/in Davids head since birth or early childhood
- it was fairly blatantly hinted that his dad is Charles X but I guess that'll all come out soon?
- at this point I'm wondering if most of these characters now reside in his head, even if they were real at some time in the past? There were some curious things that hinted that to my mind: Ptonomy tells the story of his mother dying in the kitchen in front of him, while he plays with some silly putty. In a later scene in Clockworks, David is playing with some silly putty. Theres a cloud over what happened to Davids mother. What if Ptonomy's memory is actually Davids?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link

And by which I mean, are all these people just cyphers for Davids own memories? Itd explain why Lenny/Devilgoo man was grilling all of them on various part happenings, but the dialogue smoothly moved as though it was all aimed at one person.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 22:15 (seven years ago) link


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