You're a horror with a comedic edge.
― scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:36 (seven years ago) link
peer pressure, the pop narcotic.
keep sucking the helium of those Dennis Perrin tweets, pops
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:37 (seven years ago) link
fuck movies
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:37 (seven years ago) link
honestly to me it's the opposite, the horror (while very real) is very situational and based on the awkward/difficult social situations chris finds himself in, which are almost always played up for laughs
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:39 (seven years ago) link
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, March 8, 2017 3:37 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i don't love "rap music" i love "hip hop"
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link
xpost Yeah, there are not many scares and there's not much blood or anything, but there is a general air of uneasy intensity rooted in character interaction, which is amplified by real world issues of race.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:48 (seven years ago) link
So I think definitely falls closer to the "satire" end of the spectrum.
supplemental calcium/vitamin D, milk or not, doesn't even prevent fractures in average-risk adults so this recommendation is stupid even if it's not "racist". cow's milk is basically useless calories
not really true! whole milk has protein, fat, b vitamins
― marcos, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:52 (seven years ago) link
i mean "useless calories" part
sorry i haven't even seen this film yet i don't know why i am commenting. i should "get out"
― marcos, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:53 (seven years ago) link
can't think of much i care less about than what ALS and morbz think of this movie
― na (NA), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:58 (seven years ago) link
Re: a bleaker ending, I was convinced that (remember there are SPOILERS IN THIS THREAD AND IN THIS POST):
When the car pulled up at the end it would be the cop from the beginning, who would then shoot him, a la Night of the Living Dead.
Milk is pretty gross as an adult, but (fortified) milk and potatoes alone can provide you with enough nutrition, at least for a while.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2828/could-i-survive-on-nothing-but-potatoes-and-milk
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:59 (seven years ago) link
― na (NA), Wednesday, March 8, 2017 4:58 PM (fourteen minutes ago)
just you wait!
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 22:13 (seven years ago) link
i predict that alfred is lightly impressed but unenthusiastic and morbs starts another thread about a spielberg movie
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 22:17 (seven years ago) link
btw i like this movie less the more i think about it (it really, really doesn't function as a "horror," why all the cutaways during the climax, etc.) but still glad it exists
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 22:18 (seven years ago) link
It was (imo) basically like an episode of Black Mirror if Black Mirror was good.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 22:32 (seven years ago) link
but what is "horror"?
― na (NA), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 22:33 (seven years ago) link
idk man it's like a feeling
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 22:41 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSR6ZzjDZ94
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 22:45 (seven years ago) link
...just saw this, and thought it was great. Maybe, I dunno, 5% too crazy? But the rest was ace, and there were all sorts of incredible beats rooted in real world horror, not fantastic stuff.
75% crazy enough, imo. The low-key, unsettling, real world horror supplies about 80 minutes of creepy-funny build-up, but the final act plays things a bit too safe.
― “Remember,” he says, “Noddy Holder is a gangster.” (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 March 2017 01:47 (seven years ago) link
Feel the same way about the ending, Peele offered up some alternate endings that might have been more transgressive, less crowd pleasing
― neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Thursday, 9 March 2017 03:06 (seven years ago) link
The more I think about it the more ridiculous it is (spoilers): if Grandma and mad genius grandpa had their brains or essence or whatever transferred to two new people, why would they want to spend their extended and/or reincarnated lives doing menial labor as maids and workmen, especially surrounded by people who know exactly what they did? Didn't bother me at the time so it doesn't really hurt my take-away, but still. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a throwaway line in there I missed or can't remember, referencing Grandpa's all-enveloping love doing yard work or Grandma's love of taking care of people. Or something like that.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 March 2017 12:43 (seven years ago) link
Why would a Grandmother want to spend her time making ice tea and serving it to her kids and grandkid? Why would a grandfather, who'd been an athlete in the 30s, want to spend time doing manual labor flexing a strong young body? Sounds like what my grandparents would be doing. We also don't know how much was an act for Chris. There's a moment when the party starts where "grandpa" is greeting the guests and they hug in way that struck me as more friendly than you'd expect from the "help".
― dan selzer, Thursday, 9 March 2017 13:12 (seven years ago) link
And Morbs, just go see the movie already. We saw it opening weekend at the theater in Astoria in the early afternoon and the theater was empty.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 9 March 2017 13:13 (seven years ago) link
Xpost Good point! Also, they were all mad scientist lunatics, so that seems like an OK motivating factor by itself.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 March 2017 14:09 (seven years ago) link
Sorry, it's a terrible compulsion: how did he get the cotton in his ears?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 March 2017 15:19 (seven years ago) link
Wait, never mind, he could chew on his wrists so he could make it down/up there.
So many little things it looks like I didn't even catch. Like, weird flaw or not, he was literally saved by picking cotton! Or even though I recognized the background "a mind is a terrible thing to waste" infomercial, for some reason I forgot it was for the United Negro College Fund, which makes it even more clever/insidious.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 March 2017 15:23 (seven years ago) link
I thought that by removing the cotton he loosened the bindings enough to squeeze his hands out and back in.
― MrDasher, Thursday, 9 March 2017 15:52 (seven years ago) link
His head could reach the bonds so I assume he could reach down and insert the cotton in his ears.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 9 March 2017 16:41 (seven years ago) link
^^^ that
i was a little annoyed that he took the cotton out when he did though because like duh the mom was still out there with her teacup, dude
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 9 March 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link
sooooo fuckin good
― Nhex, Sunday, 12 March 2017 06:24 (seven years ago) link
this was well worth breaking a 15-month streak of no movies in the theater.
i'm glad allison williams was game for this role, i don't know of many other actresses who could have flipped on the ice queen switch so effortlessly.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 March 2017 02:50 (seven years ago) link
allison williams is a p great actress tbh
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 18 March 2017 07:21 (seven years ago) link
i had no idea. like everyone else in this, she was perfectly cast for the role
― Nhex, Saturday, 18 March 2017 07:51 (seven years ago) link
This was terrific until the predictable if satisfying ending
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 March 2017 18:10 (seven years ago) link
^^ 100% agreed, though i think it was the right decision to end on an up note
― neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Saturday, 18 March 2017 18:25 (seven years ago) link
Caleb Landry Jones seems to play predominately creepy characters too, between this supporting role and the part he played in The Last Exorcism
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal),
he looks like a young pre-AA Steve Bannon
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 March 2017 19:13 (seven years ago) link
i didn't think the ending was predictable at all!
― k3vin k., Saturday, 18 March 2017 19:14 (seven years ago) link
i think it was the right decision to end on an up note
― neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Saturday, March 18, 2017 11:25 AM (forty-five minutes ago
it's undoubtedly helped the film's word of mouth / box office
― The sandwiches looked quite dank. (contenderizer), Saturday, 18 March 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link
yeah i was fully expecting the cops to shoot him or for him to go to jail or something, evil prevails, etc
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 18 March 2017 19:17 (seven years ago) link
well the great thing about the ending is that the movie has its cake and eats it too -- it gets the big payoff of a happy ending while also giving you the momentary horror of a cop showing up to see a black man next to a white woman in distress, and i think that's really all the ending really needed to work. the movie ending with chris being shot or arrested would have felt macabre and unnecessary given what he had just gone thru. also i think there's a nice subtle message in the end about being absolved not by authority but by your friends.
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 18 March 2017 19:23 (seven years ago) link
in a sense i think you could almost think about the movie having two endings w/o there actually being an "alternate ending" or whatever. it forces you to ruminate on what would have happened had a real cop showed up in that moment w/o actually having to show it on screen.
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 18 March 2017 19:25 (seven years ago) link
one thing i really liked about this movie is that it was laugh out loud funny w/o resorting to being meta or ironic about the genre conventions of horror films. allison williams searching "top NCAA prospects" had me howling in the theater.
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 18 March 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Saturday, March 18, 2017 12:25 PM (three minutes ago)
this is a great point, one i hadn't really considered
― The sandwiches looked quite dank. (contenderizer), Saturday, 18 March 2017 19:30 (seven years ago) link
Not sure it's a happy ending! He's still covered in blood and is responsible for three deaths. I'm not sure how he talks his way out of it, even with a TSA pal.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 March 2017 19:37 (seven years ago) link
I was the only person who laughed at the NCAA joke. My audience was uncomfortable through most of it.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 March 2017 19:38 (seven years ago) link
well it's certainly a happier ending than the alternative. and if cops went to the house they'd find the surgery room in the basement, they'd track down the missing friend previously dismissed in the movie and be able to snap him out of hypnotization etc. it's entirely plausible chris comes out the other end as the hero.
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 18 March 2017 19:40 (seven years ago) link
Watching Chris standing over the body of a dying white woman, I thought about Eric Foner's Reconstruction, which I finished last Wednesday and its recounting of what happened to black men accused of murdering a white woman.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 March 2017 19:43 (seven years ago) link
that NCAA joke, complete with creepy geometric Kubrick-esque framing, had me dying
― Nhex, Saturday, 18 March 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link
So many other subtle things people have pointed out to me. Like, I didn't get it at the time, even in immediate retrospect, that all the guests were sizing him up for their own selfish purposes. Do you play golf? You must be great in bed. With the right training you could be a MMA guy. And so on. And that's why they were bidding. I know, obvious, but at the time, like I said, just seemed like more weirdness. The brainwashed guy he recognized, for example, in passing it's noted that he was a prominent jazz musician. I wonder if that is why he was chosen?
The more I think about it, the more I think the happy ("happy") ending is in a sense an ironic subversion of expectations.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2017 22:06 (seven years ago) link