Boston -- Classic or Dirty Water?

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The Harvard Square Hotel and the Inn at Harvard are on opposite ends of Harvard Square and maybe a six-minute walk apart. I would presume that the Harvard Square Hotel is less expensive solely because the last time I checked prices at the Inn it was something like $200+/night.

The Kendall Hotel is in the MIT area right near the Kendall T stop. Other than that, I know nothing about it.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 June 2005 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

the charles hotel has some great bars/restaurants in it including the regattabar for jazz, and Noir, which makes wonderful (overpriced, but wonderful) cocktails. bottled beer is $4 though, so you can drink there all night.

you're not looking for cheap are you ;)

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 2 June 2005 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha I was gonna say!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 June 2005 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure I understand the last bit. I'm looking for something cheap, but nice.

Harvard Square Hotel sounds ideal, really - perfect location (ok, the immediate site is a little weird) in that it's right by the river/HSq amenities/T, and really inexpensive, considering. And you don't need to stay at the Charles to eat at Rialto. The Inn at Harvard might be a little "nicer" but seems a bit unnecessarily pretentious in style. Kendall Hotel looks very cute, but I see no reason to pay more for it. I guess I just want assurance that HSH isn't a dump.

How far to Inman Square from such places?

Also, what about the Harborside Inn? That seems a good budget-conscious choice if you want to stay close to all the touristy stuff - and this is for tourist purposes - but I think Cambridge would probably be nicer.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

The Charles is exorbitantly expensive, or at least it was. Also, the last meal I ate at Rialto ended up being $50/person.

Inman Square proper is probably a 20 minute walk from Harvard Square; the 69 bus runs right through it.

I don't know anything about Harborside Inn BUT it's right next to State Street??? AWESOME DUDE.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah. Supposedly it can be loud at night. I'm probably just not remembering well, but I can't think of what exactly would go on there at night - are there people around?

The bus is from Harvard Square? Is Inman closer to MIT or about the same?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Inman is closer to Harvard and Central; it would be something of a hike to get there from Kendall/MIT. The 69 picks up people right and Johnston Gate in front of Harvard and runs every 15-20 minutes.

Nighttime in that area = Quincy Market and the neighborhood of 8 million bars and restaurants right next to it. If you like going out at night, THAT is the place to stay as you can stagger home without having to reserve $25 for cabfare.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Harborside certainly would save a T ride or two and some walking, but, while not exorbitant, it's the most expensive of these, and to the extent I was thinking of late night (as opposed to regular night) activities at all, I was thinking Inman Sq. Or is it not the place for that? I'm not much of a stagger-homer.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

just so you know, no part of cambridge is very far away from the other. the subway has 5 stops in the city, and the bus runs everywhere.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 2 June 2005 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Depends on what you're looking for in "late night". Inman has some restaurants and three bars that I've frequented (Ryles, Thirsty Scholar, and if it's reopened, The Druid) but as far as looking for someplace to hang out in the evenings you'll have more options if you stay in town or do Harvard or Central Squares in Cambridge.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 June 2005 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

eight months pass...
so, any suggestions for high-end restaurants? we're looking for somewhere for a "special" dinner.

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:19 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah, so i guess i'll be in cambridge ma from early april - mid may, and colette will be there for some of that time. hence the questions, i've not just decided to fly to boston for a meal or anything.

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:20 (twenty years ago)

No. 9 Park is very good, but I'm not sure how 'special' (meaning?) the atmosphere is - seems a bit loud and spare (but I've only been in the front bar/cafe room)

Hamersley's is also very good, if less interesting perhaps, and the atmosphere might be more suitable

Aujourd'hui?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:25 (twenty years ago)

Damn, I was about to be all WOAH HIGH ROLLER!

What are you actually looking for in a "high-end" restaurant? Do you want to stay in Cambridge or are you willing to cross the river?

Here are some suggestions for places in Boston proper that I like (may not necessarily fit your definition of "high-end"):

Smith & Wollensky - Ginormous steaks-a-go-go (avoid if vegetarian) located by the Park Plaza hotel at the corner of Stuart and Columbus 3 blocks from the Arlington stop on the green line.

Kingfish - A Bobby Flay seafood restaurant located at the end of Quincy Market closest to the Aquarium.

L'Espalier - I have probably butchered the name and I've never eaten there but this is supposed to be crazy nice and crazy expensive. I'm pretty sure it's French. I believe it's on Newbury St but I'm not 100% sure.

The Red Fez - This place is pushing the definition of "high-end" but it's a really great Mediterranean restaurant on Washington St in the South End.

Brasserie Jo - This is a French restaurant in the Colonnade Hotel on Huntington Ave. They have awesome appetizers and awesome martinis.

Mama Maria - This is a super high-end Italian restaurant in the North End; I don't remember what street it's on but it has a coat-and-tie dress code (or at least it did back in 1994).

Actually my office in Back Bay is kind of surrounded by nice restaurants so I can take a walk around tonight and report back on all of the places I'm forgetting.

If you want to stay in Cambridge there's Rialto at the Charles Hotel in Harvard Square and Harvest off Brattle St, also in Harvard Square. Oh, and there's also The Elephant Walk (French/Cambodian) up Mass Ave past Porter Square.

(xpost: I've never eaten at No. 9 Park but I've heard it's outstanding. I've also heard that Aujourd'hui is massively overrated.)

Dan (Cooking? What's That?) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:41 (twenty years ago)

i dont believe i've ever been to a really high end restaurant anywhere, but i've been to some pretty good ones that go in that direction.

the red house in harvard square is super super cosy (especially the small rooms w/fireplaces)

oleana is supposed to be really wonderful for a special dinner. that's in cambridge too, but closer to inman. it's mediteranean.

google both, they should pop right up.

upstairs on the square is great for that too.


haha was just going to say rialto and harvest.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Oh right, Upstairs On The Square! The head waiter sings with my wife and I sometimes. Awesome, awesome brunch.

Dan (NUM) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:49 (twenty years ago)

hurray!

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:51 (twenty years ago)

L'Espalier is crazy expensive. I had a mixed experience - part transcendent, part pedestrian. I think it might be too business-y in ambience, though.

I've also heard that Aujourd'hui is massively overrated.)

I've had that sense too. I'm relying on a semi-recent namecheck, but it's based upon an historical selection.

Upstairs on the Square might not be special enough in ambience. But the food is quite good, and it's really lovely for brunch overlooking that square (which is called what again?).

I haven't been to Oleanna, but I remember getting really excited reading the menu.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:55 (twenty years ago)

is the Todd English place in Charlestown (is that the original Olives?) still good?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:57 (twenty years ago)

Clio gets lots of raves and would probably be appropriate if a bit trendyish. I wasn't all that impressed with its sushi bar, Uni, but I wasn't in that receptive a mood when I went there.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:01 (twenty years ago)

ARGH where I said Bobby Flay I meant Todd English! Sorry!

I haven't been to the one in Charlestown so I can't speak to it. He's got another restaurant on the border of Back Bay and the Theatre District called Bonfire that I walk past all the time but have never eaten at. Also the Ritz Carlton has a place called Jer-Nae ("journey": yes, I know) that I've never eaten at but is great for drinks (solely because they have Absolut Peppar and hence you can get spicy vodka tonics there).

Dan (Eating Out) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:01 (twenty years ago)

These are all good food recommendations and all to keep in mind BECAUSE -- do recall I will be there in Boston around the time Toby is there for a couple of days. FAP etc!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:13 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't trust the ratings, but here's a list of places with reviews

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:14 (twenty years ago)

L'Espalier apparently has more rooms than the one I was in, so maybe I'm wrong on the ambience.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:21 (twenty years ago)

I think I would go to L'Espalier if 'special' means you want something impressive and inventive. It's a power restaurant with pretty good taste. I'd go to Hamersley's if it means you want something comfortably satisfying and maybe somewhat romantic (though the main room is big and bright). It's the haute cuisine version of home cooking.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:28 (twenty years ago)

what about places that are a little less "high end" (i.e. $$$$)but still cozy and romantic?

stewart downes (sdownes), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:37 (twenty years ago)

I am very mad that Maison Robert closed because I ate the best meal of my life there. It was fucking expensive ($260 for two people) but SO WORTH IT.

(xpost: Stewart, I think you should investigate Chez Henri on Shepard St. in Cambridge. IIRC they don't cost a mint and it's a cool place.)

Dan (Mmmmmm Foie Gras) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:42 (twenty years ago)

And I'm probably wrong about Upstairs on the Square too. You should be fine in the more formal room, or their special upstairs room, if you specify one or the other.

gab (boo - ducks are not meant to be eaten) bneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

i second oleana. also in cambridge, harvest, kinda between brattle and mt. auburn, is awesome, and salt's, on main st. off central square, sounds great. as does rendezvous, the new place in central square, though i haven't been to the last two.

delurked, Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:01 (twenty years ago)

what about places that are a little less "high end" (i.e. $$$$)but still cozy and romantic?

Pomodoro near Coolidge Corner, in Brookline. Our new fave.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:16 (twenty years ago)

Did they move or franchise???? They used to be on Hanover St in the North End!

Dan (Yum) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:21 (twenty years ago)

wow, thanks for all the suggestions - i'll have to look into them all over the weekend. having not really loved boston when i was there before i'm actually really looking forward to coming back, so it'll be interesting to see how it lives up to my weirdly rose-tinted memories.

oh, and is there any really good sushi to be had in boston?

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 9 February 2006 23:59 (twenty years ago)

or indeed quite good sushi, for that matter.

toby (tsg20), Friday, 10 February 2006 00:00 (twenty years ago)

ooh, i'm getting excited about all these options.

am i going to have problems finding good vegetarian food? i kind of feel spoiled because in london a lot of the 'fancy' restaurants have started adding veg menus as options, so i'm not only faced with health food places.

we'll probably do at least one nice/fancy dinner, but will probably be eating out at less expensive and less fancy places quite a bit as well. oh, and the ice cream!

xpost-- we are such dorks both posting to the same threads on our laptops

colette (a2lette), Friday, 10 February 2006 00:01 (twenty years ago)

or indeed quite good sushi, for that matter

Uni, as I mentioned above, is probably your best bet in terms of invention. Otherwise, I don't know, but I don't think it's really a Boston strength.

as for non-fancy places, I would be sure to eat at Durgin-Park. both East Coast Grill and Jasper White's Summer Shack have fancy and non-fancy (and pricey and non-pricey, the latter especially cheap) food in non-fancy but fun settings.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 10 February 2006 00:42 (twenty years ago)

TWIN CITY DONUTS

COFFEE AT ALGIERS

PLENTY OF VEG PLACES-TRY THE GRASSHOPPER OR BUDDHAS DELIGHT

kephm (kephm), Friday, 10 February 2006 01:16 (twenty years ago)

every time this thread comes up it reminds me how much I love visiting Boston...and every year when I go for a ballgame I never want to leave. Is it only classic if you don't live there?

don weiner (don weiner), Friday, 10 February 2006 01:45 (twenty years ago)

yeah, I don't think I'd want to live there, but I've come to like it as a place to visit. I think I'm going to try to make it back - and take in a game - in mid-April or early May.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 10 February 2006 02:07 (twenty years ago)

how late in the season could I ski up at Sunday River? Originally the plan was to do a Boston trip in later March and ski up there but a) I've never skied in the East (and don't really have much desire to) and b) I'm not convinced conditions would be fun. I'd rather go hike in the Presidentials anyway.

But I'll probably just end up going up there around the time you do Gabbneb, which has been an annual event for the past six years. You need to work your sources for Green Monster seats for me.

don weiner (don weiner), Friday, 10 February 2006 02:14 (twenty years ago)

good luck scoring Green Monster seats.

slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Friday, 10 February 2006 10:49 (twenty years ago)

I used to like Jae's for sushi; I haven't been there since they moved onto Boylston St. Cafe Sushi on Mass Ave between Harvard and Central isn't particularly fancy but does good sushi, plus in town you've go Guyahama on Boylston St. and Ginza and Apollo in Chinatown.

Dan (So Hungry Now) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 February 2006 13:01 (twenty years ago)

OH and No. 9 Park is pretty damn tasty.

slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Friday, 10 February 2006 13:09 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
HI DERE I AM IN BOSTON

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:55 (twenty years ago)

EEK A NED

Dan (IN MY HOUSE) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:57 (twenty years ago)

Yes yes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:00 (twenty years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/eek-a-ned.jpg

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)

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gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:40 (twenty years ago)

OMG TRACER

Dan (You Win Everything) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:43 (twenty years ago)

That seems accurate enough.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 April 2006 03:56 (twenty years ago)

BOSTON WHY WERE YOU MAPPED BY COW PATHS

the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Thursday, 20 April 2006 07:24 (twenty years ago)


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