X-post to Ned
― Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 04:27 (nine years ago)
I'm betting the black goo from Prometheus has something to do with it.
Yeah, it's the most obvious connection. It's an interesting out they gave themselves in that film -- we knew what was in the one main ship but of course it crashed. No exact idea what's in the other one they flew away.
the original Giger design
I read this as 'original Geir design' for a second and went, "There's a thought."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 04:29 (nine years ago)
But per James's observation, doesn't explain the wheat directly. Anyway, guess we'll find out -- I admit I was double-checking the screenwriter credits to confirm Lindelof wasn't involved.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 04:30 (nine years ago)
An easy implication is that the crashed horseshoe ship in this film is the one that was flown off at the end of Prometheus but if that's the case trying to figure out where the eggs come from is the trick.
it's not a trick, the movie is going to suck.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 05:32 (nine years ago)
It very well might but what does it add to the thread by saying so? You're not doing anyone a favor, you're just adding more reflexive scoffing to the pile. There's plenty of that in every movie thread already.
It's pretty easy to adopt a knowingly cynical attitude instead of being vulnerable and allowing yourself to be excited about something and hope that it will be good.
― Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 06:16 (nine years ago)
Skepticism and ambivalence are fine, just really get tired of that glib, reflexive "It's gonna suck" attitude. It sucks the air out of everything.
― Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 06:23 (nine years ago)
And disappointment is healthy and fine too! I'd rather be massively disappointed by something than go in knowing exactly what my reaction will be.
― Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 06:26 (nine years ago)
I haven't seen a trailer for Prometheus 1, let alone 2, but I bet this will suck too :)
― (±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 06:28 (nine years ago)
This isn't really about Alien this is just stuff I've been thinkin' about lately.
― Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 06:28 (nine years ago)
At this point they're continuing a story that I could give two shits about and barely remember anyway. Like I wasn't exactly on the edge of my seat after Prometheus (more like stretched across three taking a nap)
i like black sand space movies & i love me some ridley but we're a couple of stops past where i should have got off the Alien train
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 07:00 (nine years ago)
those white dudes have got to stop crashing their ships
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 09:11 (nine years ago)
I mean their insurance premiums must be through the roof
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 09:12 (nine years ago)
they make up for it by employing super low budget incompetent crews
― Sacked Italian Greyhound (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 11:59 (nine years ago)
In a post-Trump world it's certainly plausible
― Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 12:05 (nine years ago)
Wonder if the hooded figure glimpsed in this is Noomi Rapace's Dr Shaw
― nashwan, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 12:27 (nine years ago)
It appears to be going both ways - I can see the more bio-mechanoid look in the alien at the end, but the one at 1:45 seems to have human-like skin?
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 13:47 (nine years ago)
i really want danny mcbride to be the surprise sole survivor of this movie
― I am Socutus of Butt. Resistance is futile. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 14:40 (nine years ago)
movie ends with him calling his daughter, Ellen Ripley, back on Earth
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 14:41 (nine years ago)
woah
― I am Socutus of Butt. Resistance is futile. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 14:46 (nine years ago)
appreciate latebloomer's enthusiasm
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:06 (nine years ago)
skeptical about this being a ship meant to set up a colony with partnered couples, seems like a recipe for undercooked relationship drama and easy emotional beats
Fassbender's still a robot, right? imo the best plot would be this one finding the memory chip from the Prometheus one and getting up to some evil hijinks
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:08 (nine years ago)
Fassbender IS using a different accent in this one, yes? Do different models have different accents? There's some custom designing.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:20 (nine years ago)
well, the one in Prometheus was obsessed with Laurence Olivier, so it could have been something he decided to affect
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:22 (nine years ago)
this one's secretly obsessed with gg allin
― I am Socutus of Butt. Resistance is futile. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:27 (nine years ago)
the one in Prometheus was obsessed with Laurence Olivier
Peter O'Toole, surely.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:29 (nine years ago)
Laurence of Arabia tbf
― I am Socutus of Butt. Resistance is futile. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:31 (nine years ago)
brain fart, sorry guys
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:32 (nine years ago)
I guess everyone knows the movie and actor I get confused now and I don't need to post to that thread.
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:33 (nine years ago)
For the next movie, Fassbender will be asked to be obsessed with Jason Statham.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:37 (nine years ago)
Steve Jobs
― nashwan, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:38 (nine years ago)
boo to Jobs, yay to Statham
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:40 (nine years ago)
we get scenes of him shadowboxing along to Statham classics
in the climax of the film, he punches an alien in the head
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:41 (nine years ago)
alien: covanent 2: turtles in time will feature danny mcbride teaming up with fassbender's robot, who is obsessed with pink flamingos star divine, to beat the alien menace forever by proving they've been committing tax fraud for hundreds of years
― I am Socutus of Butt. Resistance is futile. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:50 (nine years ago)
hmm
― I am Socutus of Butt. Resistance is futile. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:51 (nine years ago)
Alien Covenant 3, Alien V Predator 3: Alien 7
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:39 (nine years ago)
io9 with a trailer breakdown:
http://io9.gizmodo.com/everything-the-covenant-trailer-reveals-about-the-lates-1792841865
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:44 (nine years ago)
I admit I didn't catch this shot clearly enough on first viewing:
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--XKD5Ls3y--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/kljzptg2kegwccg19q87.png
Per io9:
Remember how Prometheus started with a flashback to the Engineers/Pilots (the big, bald, white aliens—they’re called both, with “Engineers” being prominent in Prometheus)? This, with the monumental figures we’ve seen them make before, seems to be another one of those.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:59 (nine years ago)
God bless any of yis who saw Prometheus and can still manage to pretend convince yourselves that this is going to either convincingly link to alien or be worth catching on its own standalone merit.
Chiding the rest of us seems a bit strong tho.
― The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:06 (nine years ago)
xp oh man if that's half as good as the rave scene in the second Matrix movie . . .
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:09 (nine years ago)
Alien dancers are truly the most supple.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:17 (nine years ago)
I am simple in this regard: I mostly just want to see James Franco's character die bloodily.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:18 (nine years ago)
You always say that tho
― The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:23 (nine years ago)
I fail to see the problem in James Franco's character dying bloodily in every film ever made.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:30 (nine years ago)
am i the only one who thought the CGI alien looked really bad?
― 龜, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:40 (nine years ago)
I think so too, but I can't separate that completely with my vague sense of emptiness and disappointment that seeing one of these aliens onscreen no longer produces any kind of thrill or scare in me. I don't want it to be that way but it is. These used to be genuine nightmare-producing horrors for me, from around the time I first saw Aliens, and unfortunately that's been worn away. Having them flipping and flailing around, CG-style, in broad daylight, does not help, of course. And the tail creeping in on the shower scene still offers a little of the old excitement. But I do increasingly feel like, as much as I enjoy Resurrection as a fun, disposable (tho stylish) 90s popcorn movie, it would have been way better in every way if the series had taken its final curtain with the third movie.
― tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:46 (nine years ago)
er, separate that completely from, etc.
― tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:47 (nine years ago)
Part of me has to wonder, especially given Scott's vociferousness a couple of years back about how he didn't want to deal with 'dragons' anymore, if there's some sort of bait/switch going on here in terms of the actual focus. Because I agree with Doctor Casino heavily here on the sheer overfamiliarity and its resultant impact or lack thereof. I'm curious about this film but not excited about it.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:53 (nine years ago)
[Prometheus 2 is] fresh” and “getting away from gods and dragons and shit. If I see one more dragon I’m going to shoot myself. Stop the dragons.” Rather than a dragon, Scott describes his original Alien as “the definitive dragon and he’s a motherfucker. The alien’s real which is why it’s probably one of the scariest monsters in film history,” Scott says. “So with Prometheus 2 what I’m trying to do is reintroduce a fresher form of alien in the third act.”
Rather than a dragon, Scott describes his original Alien as “the definitive dragon and he’s a motherfucker. The alien’s real which is why it’s probably one of the scariest monsters in film history,” Scott says. “So with Prometheus 2 what I’m trying to do is reintroduce a fresher form of alien in the third act.”
what if...the alien is us
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 18:07 (nine years ago)
he's talking total shite though
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 18:08 (nine years ago)