or do it again & make it double boring but even prettier to look at
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 24 February 2017 04:17 (seven years ago) link
i'm unclear tho: giant spacewheel y/n in this new one?
man I remember this thread getting pretty involved, but.... 4000 posts??!
― tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Friday, 24 February 2017 04:28 (seven years ago) link
some idiots liked prometheus, had to be put straight
― I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 24 February 2017 04:48 (seven years ago) link
So this is officially a sequel to Prometheus? I thought these movies were to have very limited connection to the actual 'alien' side of the story, I guess that was just Prometheus then and we've now abandoned the plot around the big weird looking guys.
― PressAnarchyToContinue (Ste), Friday, 24 February 2017 08:48 (seven years ago) link
if james franco becomes alien food this will instantly become one of the greatest movies ever made
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 February 2017 11:49 (seven years ago) link
what was the casting agent for this movie smoking, srsly
― for sale: steve bannon waifu pillow (heavily soiled) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 February 2017 12:38 (seven years ago) link
feels like there's a lot of alien fodder here:
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― for sale: steve bannon waifu pillow (heavily soiled) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 February 2017 13:01 (seven years ago) link
franco as a reiser-like company man would be perfect
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 February 2017 13:07 (seven years ago) link
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― nashwan, Friday, 24 February 2017 13:17 (seven years ago) link
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, February 24, 2017 6:49 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Was it Joe Queenan who wrote that, when he went to see Alive, he yelled "Eat Vincent Spano first!" at the screen?
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Friday, 24 February 2017 13:36 (seven years ago) link
i remember a string of movies a while back where jared leto got beat up every time he was on screen. I think he deserved to be in this movie
― akm, Friday, 24 February 2017 14:27 (seven years ago) link
Anyway, new trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svnAD0TApb8
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:20 (seven years ago) link
This film sure feels like Scott is doing his own fanfic tribute to all the other movies at once.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:22 (seven years ago) link
in a good way? or no
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:25 (seven years ago) link
I...don't know? On the one hand I happily want to see this, on the other hand everything feels like something I've seen before. (Which shouldn't surprise me, but.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:27 (seven years ago) link
the film could be a greatest hits comp but i could also see the trailer being cut for maximum familiarity. i'm probably more of a scott apologist than most, so i think this looks good.
― nomar, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:31 (seven years ago) link
i could also see the trailer being cut for maximum familiarity
Yeah, maybe. Get all the obvious beats out of the way? (But doubtless more to come.)
Now that we're fully moved into the era of 'cinematic universes' there's something to be said for the sheer randomness of what could happen beforehand when it was more a question of rights batted about for a while and something thinking somewhere 'this could be a good idea/make money/etc.' Also thinking about the first four films each had at least five years between them if not more, and at no point was it ever clear when any of the films finished that there was going to be a next one.
Also it's interesting to think of Scott now apparently continuing to circle back on the whole franchise more and more as time goes on and inevitably gets shorter. The guy is almost 80, he's already seen his brother tragically die, he has to have some sense of an 'end' coming. And he's always doing something else, it seems (honestly had forgotten he'd directed three other films between this one and Prometheus). But whereas he's let Blade Runner go beyond producing it -- and he's almost certainly aware that there's no real way to capture that lightning in a bottle twice -- in contrast he's now directed half of the full six films of the franchise (I am not counting the Predator crossovers). Still, now that I think about it more, there's also something to the fact that it's a franchise he inadvertantly started by chance when he was already over 40, and of course wasn't a story he came up with to start -- his perspective on it has to be a pretty distinct one, near unique.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:38 (seven years ago) link
jeez three films since Prometheus...i'd completely forgotten about Exodus
i appreciate that the guy is going to be 80 in December and plans on making two more Alien films (in the Covenant trilogy/Prometheus quadrilogy, whatever this is called...)
― nomar, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:47 (seven years ago) link
Sadly the wheat thing in the trailer suggest more von daniken bollocks in this movie
― I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 03:59 (seven years ago) link
I'm biased but this looks cool as hell. Of course it's gonna hit a lot of familiar beats, how's that worse than any other franchise movie ever? I just want it to be good.
I LOVE the new alien design. They went too far with the design changes after the third movie, basically making the aliens into slimy velociraptors instead of biomechanical hell beasts. They even gave that muppet-ass hybrid alien in Resurrection a pair of grandpa tits, which was unforgivable. That movie looked like nonstop ass. Not the good kind of life-affirming ass either.
Anyway, uh yeah I'm gonna see this.
― Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 04:03 (seven years ago) link
Not that I ever claimed to be an expert on the design but what are the key points of difference in this one you're seeing?
Honestly I'm mostly trying to puzzle out what the exact connections w/r/t Prometheus will or won't be. An easy implication is that the crashed horseshoe ship in this film is the one that was flown off at the end of Prometheus but if that's the case trying to figure out where the eggs come from is the trick. (The most interesting shot to me so far is in the first trailer where some sort of tiny...thing seems to be flying into Fassbender's ear.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 04:11 (seven years ago) link
If Prometheus showed where the alien came from, then where did the queen come from?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 04:15 (seven years ago) link
Mayfair
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 04:24 (seven years ago) link
I'm betting the black goo from Prometheus has something to do with it.
This new design is like a spindlier, slightly more organic version of the original Giger design. I dig it. The later designs in the later movies (Resurrection and the AvP flicks) went too far in the fleshy, organic direction at the expense of the biomechanoid elements that made the original design unique.
― Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 04:26 (seven years ago) link
X-post to Ned
― Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 04:27 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, it's the most obvious connection. It's an interesting out they gave themselves in that film -- we knew what was in the one main ship but of course it crashed. No exact idea what's in the other one they flew away.
the original Giger design
I read this as 'original Geir design' for a second and went, "There's a thought."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 04:29 (seven years ago) link
But per James's observation, doesn't explain the wheat directly. Anyway, guess we'll find out -- I admit I was double-checking the screenwriter credits to confirm Lindelof wasn't involved.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 04:30 (seven years ago) link
An easy implication is that the crashed horseshoe ship in this film is the one that was flown off at the end of Prometheus but if that's the case trying to figure out where the eggs come from is the trick.
it's not a trick, the movie is going to suck.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 05:32 (seven years ago) link
It very well might but what does it add to the thread by saying so? You're not doing anyone a favor, you're just adding more reflexive scoffing to the pile. There's plenty of that in every movie thread already.
It's pretty easy to adopt a knowingly cynical attitude instead of being vulnerable and allowing yourself to be excited about something and hope that it will be good.
― Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 06:16 (seven years ago) link
Skepticism and ambivalence are fine, just really get tired of that glib, reflexive "It's gonna suck" attitude. It sucks the air out of everything.
― Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 06:23 (seven years ago) link
And disappointment is healthy and fine too! I'd rather be massively disappointed by something than go in knowing exactly what my reaction will be.
― Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 06:26 (seven years ago) link
I haven't seen a trailer for Prometheus 1, let alone 2, but I bet this will suck too :)
― (±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 06:28 (seven years ago) link
This isn't really about Alien this is just stuff I've been thinkin' about lately.
― Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 06:28 (seven years ago) link
At this point they're continuing a story that I could give two shits about and barely remember anyway. Like I wasn't exactly on the edge of my seat after Prometheus (more like stretched across three taking a nap)
i like black sand space movies & i love me some ridley but we're a couple of stops past where i should have got off the Alien train
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 07:00 (seven years ago) link
those white dudes have got to stop crashing their ships
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 09:11 (seven years ago) link
I mean their insurance premiums must be through the roof
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 09:12 (seven years ago) link
they make up for it by employing super low budget incompetent crews
― Sacked Italian Greyhound (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 11:59 (seven years ago) link
In a post-Trump world it's certainly plausible
― Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 12:05 (seven years ago) link
Wonder if the hooded figure glimpsed in this is Noomi Rapace's Dr Shaw
― nashwan, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 12:27 (seven years ago) link
It appears to be going both ways - I can see the more bio-mechanoid look in the alien at the end, but the one at 1:45 seems to have human-like skin?
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 13:47 (seven years ago) link
i really want danny mcbride to be the surprise sole survivor of this movie
― I am Socutus of Butt. Resistance is futile. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 14:40 (seven years ago) link
movie ends with him calling his daughter, Ellen Ripley, back on Earth
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 14:41 (seven years ago) link
woah
― I am Socutus of Butt. Resistance is futile. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 14:46 (seven years ago) link
appreciate latebloomer's enthusiasm
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:06 (seven years ago) link
skeptical about this being a ship meant to set up a colony with partnered couples, seems like a recipe for undercooked relationship drama and easy emotional beats
Fassbender's still a robot, right? imo the best plot would be this one finding the memory chip from the Prometheus one and getting up to some evil hijinks
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:08 (seven years ago) link
Fassbender IS using a different accent in this one, yes? Do different models have different accents? There's some custom designing.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:20 (seven years ago) link
well, the one in Prometheus was obsessed with Laurence Olivier, so it could have been something he decided to affect
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link
this one's secretly obsessed with gg allin
― I am Socutus of Butt. Resistance is futile. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link
the one in Prometheus was obsessed with Laurence Olivier
Peter O'Toole, surely.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:29 (seven years ago) link