Bill Maher - classic!

I hadn't seen the interview or read exactly what he said until now and I can't believe THAT is what got him in hot water.

From the article Morbs linked to:

It’s not, on the face of it, an unreasonable explanation. Yiannopoulos may not have made his point very well. But there’s something nuanced and defensible here. First, he’s saying that the relationships between gay men and teenage boys (according to their own accounts) have historically been messier than simple categories allow for. And second, it’s absurd to say that he can’t make dark or crass jokes about his priest if it’s his way of dealing with what happened to him.

Yiannopoulos has quickly found out which ideas will actually get you booted from the public square, and they’re left-wing ones rather than right-wing ones. It turned out the real people you can’t offend are the conservatives whose latent homophobia make them instantly pounce on a gay man as a defender of pedophilia when he tries to explain his world to them. How fitting that Yiannopoulos should end up subjected to the very kind of vicious misrepresentation of LGBT people that he has spent his time encouraging. How appropriate for him to discover that his friends on the right only supported him so long as he nurtured their prejudices; they loved their campy gay mascot until the moment he challenged them. Then he was a pervert.

xp... I didn't read about the "Hollywood parties" stuff, but I also hadn't seen it in pieces critical of him

(also didn't know he was English until just now)

he's also made of cockroaches

Milo (like Trump) could get away with saying a lot more if he wasn't such an asshole. Like, it's hard to convey a nuanced message when shock and awwww-shit! is your claim to fame.

Sean O'Neal with a pretty good summary:

http://www.avclub.com/article/milo-yiannopoulos-enabler-bill-maher-says-youre-we-250820

Yiannopoulos’ swift fall from bubbling-under cultural force to future guest at The Gathering of the Juggalos

this is an odd thing to say

yeah it's well known by now that Juggalos are total SJWs

https://twitter.com/wyatt_privilege/status/834399728519426048

Bill Maher is trash

Yiannopoulos’ swift fall from bubbling-under cultural force to future guest at The Gathering of the Juggalos

I think is referring to Tula Tequila's booking at the event previously. And Charlie Sheen, probably.

Tila got pelted w bottles!

And feces. Juggalos hated her so much they raided the portapotties for missiles.

shining light on fascist idiots worked so well with kellyanne conway

so on last night's show he was joking about how prison rape turns people gay and the whole panel of liberal talking heads was laughing and even adding their own jokes to it

but yes back to how normalizing Trump is so terrible

Trying to figure out if that or him abruptly cutting off the woman while she was attempting to speak back against his rampant Islamophobia was the grosser moment on last night's show.

rampant!

show of hands. how many of you know that "rampant" derives from heraldic imagery?

I do now

also Maher sucks

yep

wasn't Louise Mensch on? he's going all-nutz all the time perhaps

@adamjohnsonNYC
Max Brooks calls Trump "America's Hamas" that's the great liberal content i love

Bill and Rick Santorum mansplaining to the only woman on the panel why racism and sexism is nbd might be a new low.

I SEE WHY THEY CALL HIM POLITICALLY INCORRECT!!!!

Yeah no kidding

bill maher is human garbage

to repeat my own phrase, I've been hoping he trips into traffic for quite some time now. this will have to do

I'm sure Kathy Griffin is somewhere muttering to herself "thank god"

y'all are some complex thinkers eh

talk me through the complexity of using the n-word in that context no actually don't bother

it was dumb to say it. but saying it doesn't make him racist. or human garbage. it's exactly this type of reflexive outrage that turns off people to liberalism that would otherwise be sympathetic.

That's not the thing that makes him human garbage, everything else about him makes him human garbage. This is just the weird foam on top of the pile of shit.

fair

This definitely has quite a lot with why he is human garbage, though.

i can vaguely guess what happened from the last 11 posts, but the ILX thing of discussing some recent news w/out mentioning the thing itself is supremely annoying. but hey i'm the one who doesnt CHECK HIS DEVICES every 5 minutes.

He referred to himself as a "house n****r":

http://www.theroot.com/white-habitual-line-stepper-bill-maher-calls-himself-a-1795778745

oh god he's going to get such a boner from being called a "line stepper"

i really don't see how this is defensible in any way

It's not. Has anyone seen Michael Richards lately?

Btw yes bill maher is racist. Also human garbage. Both well established prior to this ill-advised self-righteous self-pity party.

He started attacking islam later in the show. I didn't really hear the full extent cos i had it on in the background.
Could just about see what the slavery quip was about but thought it pretty tasteless.

He and Ann Coulter are essentially the same person, with the same approach, just playing to opposing crowds. How people don't see right through that shit is beyond me.

His drunk womanizing/rapey behavior is worse than the other stuff imo

He and Ann Coulter are essentially the same person, with the same approach, just playing to opposing crowds. How people don't see right through that shit is beyond me.

a good chunk of his show is devoted towards airing/saying hateful shit but having a picture up of some bad guy from The Other Side you are supposed to imagine saying it instead of the person actually saying it who is obviously getting a kick from being able to get away w saying it

Maher and Kathy Griffin will be sharing a cover story somewhere--maybe not Time, but some high-profile publication--and the accompanying article will make "the age of Trump" partly or largely culpable.

Just so I don't end up with a firing squad around me:

1) This is a dispassionate prediction;
2) It in no way reflects my personal feelings about Bill Maher, Kathy Griffin, Donald Trump, god, truth, or the American Way;
3) I'm old, and often don't know what I'm posting.

I'm sure Kathy Griffin is somewhere muttering to herself "thank god"

― frogbs

i'm kind of muttering to myself "thank god". i hope this will make bill maher go away from the "media ecosystem" forever. please god.

a good chunk of his show is devoted towards airing/saying hateful shit but having a picture up of some bad guy from The Other Side you are supposed to imagine saying it instead of the person actually saying it who is obviously getting a kick from being able to get away w saying it

Lol dude this is the pretty standard set-up for any political satire show. Kinda misreading the intent though, even for Maher.

(this is not a defense of Maher or his comment, just sayin)

Official bill maher apology pic.twitter.com/uQ8IT37PtE

— Adam Friedland (@AdamFriedland) June 3, 2017

pretty on the nose

I feel like the Kathy Griffin thing is more in line with Lena Dunham's comments about wishing she had had an abortion: tone-deaf attempts at liberalism that do our side zero favours. I'd include Maher in with this except I have no idea what he was trying to achieve with his gag.

Because I missed the gag (either my husband or I was saying something to the other while it happened, and we only heard the audience laugh-gasp afterwards), I thought the ickiest moment of last night's show was him shouting down Rebecca Traister as she was making a solid point about religion as a potential outlet for masculinist violence, rather than its cause, so that he could be all "NO! ISLAM IS THE WORST!" But that basic scene happens every week on the show.