Rideshare services - Uber, Lyft, Hailo, etc.

(Happened at two places i worked at)

where does "management" begin? he was her manager

Upper mgmt

I mean, I work at a large place and iirc (reorgs make me forgetful) it's like me->manager>manager>department head>org unit head>vp

Sorry I'm eating while posting

In the case of my workplaces, this wasn't just middle mgmt, and there were groups of sr mgrs

well tell em to stop trying to fuck the underlings

All the places I've worked, I'm fairly confident someone'd be fired after even one sexual harassment complaint. Ive seen people fired for less (sending a racist email, swearing at a colleague over skype) so I'd fully expect my current HR at the least to act on someone with *multiple* complaints.

The fact they straight up lied to each complainant that this was his first offence is... just horrifying.

but yes, also, HR are there to protect the company, not the workers, sadly this is so.

it's allocating humans as resources, not resources for humans

https://twitter.com/cjc/status/833504902445821952

imagine if this article were written by a driver

Ya it's a shame because i guess there are times when hr/rest of upper mgmt don't believe the victim because maybe drinks were involved, it was at an office party, or there is not enough hard evidence. But hr/upper mgmt don't explicitly state this, so they seek to fix it in a roundabout way, without causing too much damage/defamation to both parties and the company's reputation

Awful situation for women and hope more is done to prevent harassment

I can't tell whether that piece is really making the rounds as they say or whether I just get all my stories from a bubble predisposed to stab at uber whenever the opportunity presents itself

This account that my friend wrote up is also gaining som emomentum: http://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/02/20/uber-is-on-alert-following-reports-of-abhorrent-sexual-harassment-at-the-company/#6326b93b1118 so it may be at least a couple of bubbles. At least some aggregators/searches were using her own author photo (shot by yours truly) as the thumbnail, which strikes me as kind of weird and unfortunate.

i use this app nuzzel which connects to your twitter and tells you about links that lots of friends or friends of friends have shared recently. in my network a widely shared story might be posted by 5 or 6 people. the most i'd ever seen until yesterday was 10. this was posted by 25.

Doctor, don't be so hard on yourself, that photo's perfectly okay

Haha I like the photo, just the idea that it illustrates this article is...er.

FAKE NEWS?

I can't tell whether that piece is really making the rounds as they say or whether I just get all my stories from a bubble predisposed to stab at uber whenever the opportunity presents itself

I'm really not in this bubble and like 10 copies of this came across my twitter feed

Ya it's a shame because i guess there are times when hr/rest of upper mgmt don't believe the victim because ...

are you kidding me? there are functional workplaces and i would like to think most of us are in them, but in a lot of them (especially in the service industry or others with a significant management/worker gap in status, like salaried versus hourly) it's not that "there are times", it's that no one gives any shit whatsoever and favoritism or seniority wins every time

man, this is a juicy read

xp

sounds quite diff from

and no, HR in any competent place isn't going to do some shell game bullshit when it's obvious coworkers are going to talk and realize a "first incident" is anything but

― mh 😏, Sunday, February 19, 2017 5:07 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you mean where I said "in any competent place" and also referred to "functional workplaces" in the other?

I guess it depends on whether you judge competence by their ability to shield management or their ability to act justly

I have a friend and former coworker who works at Uber and is friends with Susan; he corroborrated all of this, but also told me that there was a large HR shakeup several months ago (before she left) partially as a result of all of this already; and the two principals she mentioned (the one who did the whole thing with the jackets, and the one who propositioned her) were both gone; the latter fired, the former quit and is not director of eng at google, and is apparently a massive shithead. He defended the company to a degree, because he still drinks their kool aid, and also thinks that this situation isn't that abnormal (and drew comparisons to his former place of work, where I am now a manager; but, though the place I work has some ethical issues w/r/t who is in HR and how they've responded to, like, two things, it's absolutely not even close to being the same kind of thing where it seems like systematic workplace wide harrassment is covered up)

"and is NOW at google,"

http://jalopnik.com/uber-is-doomed-1792634203

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are you kidding me? there are functional workplaces and i would like to think most of us are in them, but in a lot of them (especially in the service industry or others with a significant management/worker gap in status, like salaried versus hourly) it's not that "there are times", it's that no one gives any shit whatsoever and favoritism or seniority wins every time

― mh 😏, Monday, February 20, 2017 2:58 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm - I was ranting about Lasership once and a friend of mine PMed me to confide she'd worked for them, and spent the next half hour telling her story of employment there, which involved lots of management encouraging rulebreaking, retaliating against her for reporting it, and even physically handling her the moment before she quit. it sounded v much like the Uber story.

Power plays are a definite thing in many corporate environments, particularly places where the pay is so abysmal and the employees are paycheck to paycheck and can't afford to be without one long enough or have the financial means to fight the company if they are taken advantage of.

https://newsroom.uber.com/a-profound-apology/

can i just say, i'm having a lovely time

Believe it when you see it, for at least a few years straight.

love too see a company that is hemorrhaging billions quarterly, has never made money, and has no clear idea how to do so valued at $70b

i mean john galt at least made some quality steel

you want to apologize for real? commit hari-kari and we'll all be impressed.

who is this "we"

Aimless is trapped in Ayn Rand's "Anthem" again

How Uber Used Secret Greyball Tool to Deceive Authorities Worldwide

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/technology/uber-greyball-program-evade-authorities.html

omg

insane

why does this company still exist

their whole thing was "why can't I hail a cab w my phone" and now that every cab company has enabled that, why would anybody choose this shitty company with their shitty politics and policies instead of a cab idgi

unbelievable

Ride sharing used to be cool. It used to be just drunk millennials all the time. But now it's just old smelly people who just want to save a few bucks.

and children

drunk children

who want to save a few bucks

their whole thing was "why can't I hail a cab w my phone"
um

i'm with Οὖτις, idgi

suspect there's subtle racism behind it

(flees thread)

is über just for rich ppl who don't want middle eastern cabbies or is my impression off?

― k3vin k., Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:57 PM (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm with Οὖτις, idgi

suspect there's subtle racism behind it

(flees thread)

― a but (brimstead), Friday, March 10, 2017

if you live in suburban Miami and want to drink, Uber was a joy. Cabs don't simply drive around or show up when you phone. It's that simple.

it might be cheaper than a cab, because of vc support? (i dunno, i've never used it). and i think there's also a trendiness because uber was maybe first with the app? but . . . yeah

big city snobbery going on here. Many parts of western Miami-Dade County have condo developments and no SIDEWALKS.

I've switched to Lyft in the last couple weeks, but for two years the relief Uber brought was incalculable.