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Food is one of the great joys in life and our culture is fucking weird to only present it through lenses like "fuel" "health" "junk" "guilty pleasure" "exotic", etc.

I like food fine, but I agree with those who wish we were freer from its tyranny. Or those who wish we needed it less, or wish we needed it less often (however you choose to put it). I'd like it to be more of a choice.

Some days I want to linger over a well-conceived and well-executed meal with a lover or with some friends. On other days, I end up eating a frozen burrito standing over the sink, just to get my stomach to shut up for a while so I can get back to the thing I was doing (reading, playing the guitar, masturbating, working, or whatever).

Relatedly: I will happily cook for others, but I rarely cook for myself. It needs to be a labor of love.

If my wife says she wants a sandwich, I will make two carefully layered sandwiches, with thoughtful presentation and lovingly grilled bread. If I'm alone and I want a sandwich, I might not even bother with bread. Fuck it, just roll some ham around a pickle spear and squirt some mustard in the top.

If my children want a weekend breakfast, there will be waffles with fruit compote and fresh-squeezed juice. If I'm alone and want breakfast, I might just shove fistfuls of dry cereal into my mouth while reading the newspaper.

Go Team Food is fuel and most of time an inconvenience!

Ye mad puffin continues an excellent and important ilx poster

Uh that is not offered in response to thread question obv

otm tho

i hate having to eat regularly

Isn't this the exact reason that soylent was invented?

ya ye mad puffin is definitely on to something

there are times when i feel i just dont like food but things like soylent taste far worse

its like a post taste world and im needing to rationalize how i choose what to eat

i cant just be like ooh what do i crave today

first world problems for sure

i do drink more muscle milk/protein whatsits then i ever have before. i've wondered if i could get way with just drinking those all day. someone do a supersize me and just drink naked juice all day and tell me how you feel.

Has the internet made eating a thing of the past? Stay tuned!

I'll bet it has had an effect though. People get twitchy being online so much. Eating can feel weird unless its something you can eat in 20 seconds.

I do cook dinner (almost) every night though. Dinner for four. Other than that I don't care what happens.

I love cooking, I just hate the way my OCD kicks in around continuously cleaning up around crumbs and smears and liquid while I prepare it. If there's no kitchen towel in the room I start to panic. I hate the FWP concept but you might be on to something there.

i rarely if ever use it

but there does seem to be a bit of guilt in just not being content with having access to most foods

i think i just get some sort of existential dread/depressed feeling that i've eaten too much. for too many years. enough already. so much ice cream. and the idea of 30 or 40 more years of it...oof. doesn't seem right somehow. people used to live on cigarettes and coffee.

i should just go vegan. water and veganism. need to cleanse. or something.

For me it's just the repetition. I've had the same for six years and I can predict where I'll be at every point from 530-9 by the nearest five minutes, from leaving work to commuting to shopping to preparation to eating to digestion. A life well-lived can be a bit boring sometimes.

same *job*

Meanwhile I work for a refugee charity and watch footage of people who literally walk 48 fucking hours for two buckets of water. It's dumb.

life is kinda dumb. but you stay alive because you are supposed to. and do the same things because its better than the alternative. i guess. who knows? a boring life does beat starving to death. this much i know.

What's worse is that brushing your teeth never stops being a pain in the ass.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, February 7, 2017 11:32 PM (yesterday)

couldn't disagree w/ this more -- brushing your teeth is one of the great small joys in life

I keep a toothbrush in every desk. I brush after every meal. Love it.

What's worse is that brushing your teeth never stops being a pain in the ass.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, February 7, 2017 11:32 PM (yesterday)

couldn't disagree w/ this more -- brushing your teeth is one of the great small joys in life

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 20:26

I dunno about you but my teeth are in my anus.

lol

ilx meta threads are the worst threads

^should be polled

https://sceneclip.com/clip/ec0CgTa.gifv

So glad that wasn't a gify of anus teeth

Jeremy Clarkson never seems quite as bad to me as he does to a lot of other people. He can be annoying and say shitty things and I'm not a fan but I've never seen the ukip-esque monster a lot of other people do.

I get the impression that Clarkson is not stupid and/or emotionally damaged enough to be a full on crypto-nazi in the Farage/Rod Liddle/Toby Young vein, idk if that just makes it worse that he engages in that kind of stuff for bantz

Toby Young is as bad as that? I thought he was just astoundingly annoying.

tucked in t-shirts sometimes look good

xp here's a Toby Young tweet chosen completely at random

Toby Young@toadmeister

I set out the argument for “progressive eugenics” that I just discussed on Radio 4’s Analysis in more detail here http://bit.ly/1O2Ruuz

lol wtf

Toby Young is as bad as that?

Worse.

A lot of the resistance to this idea will come from a visceral dislike of anything that smacks of eugenics, for understandable historical reasons. But the main objection to eugenics, at least in the form it usually takes, is that it involves discriminating against disadvantaged groups, whether minorities or people with disabilities. What I’m proposing is a form of eugenics that would discriminate in favour of the disadvantaged. I’m not suggesting we improve the genetic stock of an entire race, just the least well off. This is a kind of eugenics that should appeal to liberals—progressive eugenics.

Didn't read the whole thing, maybe not what I was imagining but still sounds pretty nutty.

Though compared to Rod Liddle he's Pope Francis.

clarkson has had occasional moments of subtle thinking, I'm sure some people think that makes the rest of his output more contemptible

fuck Clarkson as per but it's currently more dangerous to have Trump-cherishing trollumnist Piers Morgan helming Good Morning Rainy Fascist Island

I was shocked that I enjoyed Clarkson talking about music. I assumed he only owned greatest hits collections and a lame compilation with a name like "The Greatest Dadrock EVER".

If only there was footage of when Clarkson punched Piers Morgan.

"A lot of the resistance to this idea will come from a visceral dislike of anything that smacks of eugenics, for understandable historical reasons. But the main objection to eugenics, at least in the form it usually takes, is that it involves discriminating against disadvantaged groups, whether minorities or people with disabilities. What I’m proposing is a form of eugenics that would discriminate in favour of the disadvantaged. I’m not suggesting we improve the genetic stock of an entire race, just the least well off. This is a kind of eugenics that should appeal to liberals—progressive eugenics."

jane fonda on the screen today convinced the liberals it's okay

I really hate the idea of Clarkson/Top Gear/The Grand Whatever in my head but sometimes I'll find myself in the same room as someone else watching it and the reality is usually not so bad and usually mindlessly watchable even for the offence-prone non-driver like myself. I guess the "Clarkson is a monster" people are also stuck in a bit of a hate-spiral where they ignore the more benign stuff and only hate-click to get worked into a rage over the latest controversy

the recent crop of alt-rightists plus the good old tabloids going full on "words mean whatever we want them to! elites! fake news! MSM!" make him look relatively harmless, but it's often hard to tell where the bants/not bants line is when everything is claimed to be merely a hilarious snowflake-baiting joke until suddenly shit gets real (and a constant climate of "jokes" makes shit real too)

also I would almost like to be one of those people who finds eating a boring inconvenience. I snack compulsively all the time and am consequently fat and unhealthy, it sounds nice not to be constantly thinking "what delicious thing can I shove into my face next"

Fairly sure all three Top Gear guys don't believe in global warming.

Newspaper columnists are trash and clarkson is p easily dismissable as a fairly garden variety dorky tory and the format of "the three naffest men imaginable pretend to argue about cars" is already so ugly and repellent on an aesthetic level that you wouldn't want to associate with anyone who enjoyed it even without the wacky racism

then again he is a broadcaster who uses the epithets "nigger" and "slope", noting that this is unacceptable doesn't make you a foaming libtard taking the bait as much as it makes you a human being

Didn't realise he had used those words! Wow.

I hate cars yet I found Top Gear surprisingly watchable when someone else had it on.

Xp Speaking of progressive eugenics have you guys heard of bio-artist Adam Zaretsky? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/510818/?client=safari

“The idea is that you take a gene, say for pig noses, or ostrich anuses, or aardvark tongue, and you paste that into a human sperm, a human egg, a human zygote. A baby starts to form,” he said. “Developmentally, the baby is mostly human, but it has an aardvark tongue, a pig nose, and an ostrich anus. That makes for difference––bodily difference, and surely metabolic difference, but it also makes for a version of ourselves that is based on collage, so it is literally gene collage. What’s weird is once you get that started, if it stabilizes, if you can find partners, if you’re still fertile, if you’re still into it, you go ahead and reproduce, then you’ll have children who are born with ostrich anuses and aardvark tongues and pig noses.”

...

“The idea is that you take a gene, say for pig noses, or ostrich anuses, or aardvark tongue, and you paste that into a human sperm, a human egg, a human zygote. A baby starts to form,” he said. “Developmentally, the baby is mostly human, but it has an aardvark tongue, a pig nose, and an ostrich anus. That makes for difference––bodily difference, and surely metabolic difference, but it also makes for a version of ourselves that is based on collage, so it is literally gene collage. What’s weird is once you get that started, if it stabilizes, if you can find partners, if you’re still fertile, if you’re still into it, you go ahead and reproduce, then you’ll have children who are born with ostrich anuses and aardvark tongues and pig noses.”

ah yes professor two-times

Ack i messed that up. Second part of the quote is:

“It’s important to make versions of transgenic human anatomy that are not based on idealism,” he insists. “I want to make sure that there’s plaid kids, like queer anatomy out there, to compete with the other add-ons that other parents are going to be paying for. To get bio-queer transgenic humans is going to save a lot of difference on the planet. It’s going to stop us from mono-culturing ourselves. It’s going to offer a real and possibly unacceptable face of the democratization of the human genome.”

Essential piece on clarkson is s Lee diatribe

IN FULL, if you please

I've seen that and its funny but it didn't go into the slurs he used.