Silicon Valley Techno-Utopianism

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the ruby on rails community is extremely shitty.

𝔠𝔞đ”ĸ𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 28 January 2017 22:11 (nine years ago)

it's probably the preferred platform at this point for small businesses that create web presences and small apps for local business. it's a huge slice of the web work that actually gets done and you get this perfect storm of small business skepticism and technology utopianism

mh 😏, Saturday, 28 January 2017 22:18 (nine years ago)

'so if we pay you for this we'll be able to grow our business exponentially at virtually no cost???'

'o yes'

j., Saturday, 28 January 2017 22:32 (nine years ago)

That reminds me of one of my favorite tweets from Erowid Recruiter, an account that generates mash-ups from drug trip reports and tech recruiter emails. It read simply "don't do Rails".

JRN, Saturday, 28 January 2017 22:56 (nine years ago)

erowid recruiter is good

mh 😏, Sunday, 29 January 2017 05:36 (nine years ago)

The bigger you are, the weaker your sauce

http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/28/14426550/silicon-valley-trump-immigration-response

El Tomboto, Sunday, 29 January 2017 15:18 (nine years ago)

http://avc.com/2017/01/make-america-hate-again/

note this in the comments

http://i.imgur.com/5G29mS4.png

𝔠𝔞đ”ĸ𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 29 January 2017 16:53 (nine years ago)

omg yessss pull beetbort's comments

respect to sergey brin for going to an airport protest!

mh 😏, Sunday, 29 January 2017 16:57 (nine years ago)

has this been posted? http://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/01/26/elon-musk-is-ready-to-bore-under-l-a-as-the-tunnel-market-takes-off/#79eed3924a40

stein beck ii: the wrath of grapes (Doctor Casino), Monday, 30 January 2017 05:33 (nine years ago)

Speaking of Musk, ain't no industry has a Union didn't deserve one:

https://theoutline.com/post/1069/tesla-worker-jose-moran-elon-musk

International House of Hot Takes (kingfish), Friday, 10 February 2017 22:49 (nine years ago)

as zuck edges toward running for office, remember this is how he thinks

https://twitter.com/nathanjurgenson/status/616084493041070080

𝔠𝔞đ”ĸ𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 February 2017 16:35 (nine years ago)

"what will enable us to live forever" is such a dumb question on every level

ΟáŊ–Ī„ÎšĪ‚, Friday, 17 February 2017 16:39 (nine years ago)

i'm looking forward to voting for zuck one day

Mordy, Friday, 17 February 2017 16:40 (nine years ago)

facebook is a blight on humanity so no I won't be doing that

ΟáŊ–Ī„ÎšĪ‚, Friday, 17 February 2017 16:47 (nine years ago)

wow those are really dumb questions

mh 😏, Friday, 17 February 2017 16:52 (nine years ago)

but how does the brain work

ΟáŊ–Ī„ÎšĪ‚, Friday, 17 February 2017 16:58 (nine years ago)

it's like he's an 8yo

ΟáŊ–Ī„ÎšĪ‚, Friday, 17 February 2017 16:58 (nine years ago)

zuck is awful

marcos, Friday, 17 February 2017 17:07 (nine years ago)

Fuckin' magnets, man

Treesh-Hurt (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 February 2017 17:12 (nine years ago)

bunch of brain surgeons itt

Mordy, Friday, 17 February 2017 17:15 (nine years ago)

"what will enable us to live forever" is such a dumb question on every level

It wouldn't be my first pick of scientific question, but I don't think it's entirely dumb. A cure for aging isn't far-fetched, and we welcome all kinds of limited life-extending breakthroughs. Not that I would look to tech billionaires for wisdom on the ethics of life extension.

jmm, Friday, 17 February 2017 17:21 (nine years ago)

zuck's first paragraph is fine, he's not the first to ask them and they're definitely q's other scientists already explore

second paragraph is creepy

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 17 February 2017 17:22 (nine years ago)

maybe zuck's the same as me, we see things they'll never see

mookieproof, Friday, 17 February 2017 17:23 (nine years ago)

the most problematic words there are "us" and "forever".

As far as I know a cure for aging actually is pretty far-fetched, as recent studies indicate our DNA has built-in limits that restrict indefinite cell replication (there was some article in Discover about this recently, not sure if its online). And "forever" is obviously substantively different from "limited life-extending". If he'd said "how can we make people live longer" that's slightly more reasonable.

The "us" part involves, as noted, the ethics of life extension, which are v v thorny and imo come out v strongly against even considering this.

xp

ΟáŊ–Ī„ÎšĪ‚, Friday, 17 February 2017 17:25 (nine years ago)

those are philosophically relevant questions but Hawking asked about *big questions in science*

from a scientific perspective all of these are so hand-wavingly vague as to not be questions about science at all

mh 😏, Friday, 17 February 2017 17:27 (nine years ago)

http://reformedoutfitters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Born-to-Die.png

j., Friday, 17 February 2017 17:27 (nine years ago)

outic

see jmm's reply

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 17 February 2017 17:30 (nine years ago)

they're definitely q's other scientists already explore

this doesn't automatically make them good questions! I find these sort of "hmm how can we fundamentally change the nature of existence" questions really irritating. "Curing all diseases", for ex. Really? Why is this even desirable? It would be disastrous for our ecology for a species as wantonly destructive and stupid as ours to (somehow, magically) make itself impervious to factors that regulate every population of organisms on the planet. Like, gee what could possibly go wrong there. To say nothing of its inherent infeasibility - it would violate basic laws of biology about how things like DNA and RNA work, disease is *built in* to how organisms function, compete, interact, and impact each other. The practical and ethical problems presented by this question are mind-boggling. But the question stems from this childlike "disease bad! I wish there was no disease!" framing that is just embarrassing.

ΟáŊ–Ī„ÎšĪ‚, Friday, 17 February 2017 17:32 (nine years ago)

those are philosophically relevant questions but Hawking asked about *big questions in science*

from a scientific perspective all of these are so hand-wavingly vague as to not be questions about science at all

I agree w this

ΟáŊ–Ī„ÎšĪ‚, Friday, 17 February 2017 17:33 (nine years ago)

dammit

shakey does it bum you out that people think that is a c at the end of your name

it bums me out

j., Friday, 17 February 2017 17:35 (nine years ago)

ancient greek is a bitch

ΟáŊ–Ī„ÎšĪ‚, Friday, 17 February 2017 17:37 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAOsRlfhvLc

Mordy, Friday, 17 February 2017 17:42 (nine years ago)

outic

those questions are extreme and most likely knowingly unreachable but they are asked because on the way to this hypothetical goal you find out things that you would have never had you not tried

it's like what jmm said. scientists speak a very different language among themselves and is why they're not very good at marketing and getting their ideas to the lay. zuck is on the other extreme and just says things in a silly way but that resonate with a lot of people that lack any scientific understanding but it helps peak people's interest

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 17 February 2017 17:46 (nine years ago)

I like this idea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nccryZOcrUg

DJI, Friday, 17 February 2017 17:54 (nine years ago)

those questions are extreme and most likely knowingly unreachable but they are asked because on the way to this hypothetical goal you find out things that you would have never had you not tried

fair point yeah I get that

ΟáŊ–Ī„ÎšĪ‚, Friday, 17 February 2017 18:12 (nine years ago)

I like Gates's idea. Can we retroactively apply it to software, say the kind that eliminated, deskilled, or rendered precarious uncounted secretarial and number-crunching jobs?

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 February 2017 18:13 (nine years ago)

it's just irritating to see zuck (and his audience) take them at what is apparently face value, with this v basic "gee yes I would *love* to live forever!" framing

xp

ΟáŊ–Ī„ÎšĪ‚, Friday, 17 February 2017 18:13 (nine years ago)

ancient greek is a bitch

nb: that's the modern greek alphabet, too

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 17 February 2017 18:20 (nine years ago)

it helps pique their interest too

mh 😏, Friday, 17 February 2017 18:20 (nine years ago)

bunch of brain surgeons itt

― Mordy, Friday, February 17, 2017 12:15 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, if zuck is interested i would be more than happy to try my hand at surgically operating on his brain before he has a go at elected office

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 February 2017 18:21 (nine years ago)

for obvious reasons, high tech hundred-billionaires are not the most reflective people in the universe.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 17 February 2017 18:22 (nine years ago)

imo the main impediment to living forever is psychological. however, zuckerberg's mind (and perhaps thiel's) have adapted to the possibility of infinite lifespans

mh 😏, Friday, 17 February 2017 18:22 (nine years ago)

but what will you have time left to do every day as your 'this day in history' timeline reminders engulf you with the advancing eons

j., Friday, 17 February 2017 18:32 (nine years ago)

guys the problem with that zuck post is not the bong rip science questions!

𝔠𝔞đ”ĸ𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 February 2017 18:40 (nine years ago)

they're fine!

it's the next bit when he says "i bet there's a master equation for human community"

𝔠𝔞đ”ĸ𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 February 2017 18:40 (nine years ago)

ya that's the creepy one as i noted yo

i feel ya cake

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 17 February 2017 18:45 (nine years ago)

pssh, everyone knows the family and genetic correlation coefficient applied to the friendship/community multiplier is a decent predictor of the number of close friends

mh 😏, Friday, 17 February 2017 19:07 (nine years ago)

if only we could write an equation for.... love

mh 😏, Friday, 17 February 2017 19:07 (nine years ago)

Tagline for The Social Network 2

jmm, Friday, 17 February 2017 19:09 (nine years ago)

Wait which element is that again? Xp

DJI, Friday, 17 February 2017 19:10 (nine years ago)


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