Is there really not a Sopranos season 6 thread?

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it's true though, i wonder if this means carmela's gettin' corrupted!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought the whole point of the spa visit/etc., was to show off the Porsche. Like, "Oh, that? Yeah, Tony gave it to me. NO BIGGY."

Made the part where she got upstaged at the end that much more poignant. Vettes are pretty cool, and they're cooler still when you PAY FOR THEM YOURSELF.

God I've missed this show.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it was showing off unintentionally, seeing as how Sack's wife had to tell her husband in jail that they're losing their car (did I get that rite?).
On Carmella getting corrupted, I can see that. Allthough I think 'hedonistic' is more appropriate. After all those catholic-guilt-ridden years, the escapism-gone-bad (Furio) and the Tony-screwing-around suffering, I could understand her saying finally: fuck it, I'm gonna enjoy everything that could be mine, developpe my own hobby(real-estate/stocks) and just live it out. Fear went out the window, yo!

Gerard (Gerard), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Random theory for the rest of the season. If something hapens again with Vito and Finn (Of course assuming the narrative is going to move forward, a Meadow/Finn wedding shouldn't be out of the question.) and Vito decides to silence him Meadow knows enough about the situation from the night of the sootcase to be very suspicious about such an event. Especially as Finn isn't involved in the business and it's happened to her before. I'd expect Meadow to have a word with her father about Vito, captain or no captain.

MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Carmella's been corrupted since at least the day she decided to get married.

dr lulu (dr lulu), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link

MitchellStirling, my impression of events was that Finn proposed partially (or even mostly) for immunity. No one would dare kill off the husband (or fiancee) of the Boss's daughter, at least not without the Boss's approval. It was a way for Finn to stay with Meadow, which I do think he wanted, without having to worry too much about the Vito situation. Just my take.

Jouster (Jouster), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Jouster's right.

Although, Finn isn't made, so he doesn't have immunity per se. Just that extra layer of protection. And besides, Vito will have to contrive a reason to whack him, since he can't say "dude caught me sucking cock."

I'd more interested to see how the families would deal with an outed Vito. Whackable "offense?" I mean, it's totally against all the mob's macho values, but would they turn and kill him?

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree it's not without it's holes. It's cetainly not clear cut that if Vito was outed as a "naked hot dog eater" (yes DC, I saw that in opener)it would immeaditdly recult in a wacking. I also agree that a part of the proposal Finn was saving his own skin.

However we all saw how easily the Tony B thing could have come back into play this week,(Tony would do anything for the old Jew wouldn't he.) If something flared up between Vito and Finn then it would be the easiest way to suck Meadow into Tony's world. She's more intellegent than her mother and much better suited to it than her brother.

MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link

good god, the look on vito's face when he picked up the sausage and started eating it (at the badabing)... that is acting!

baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 01:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Carmella's been corrupted since at least the day she decided to get married.

We were just talking about this today. For all that the major shocking events of the Sopranos reflect badly on Tony, they reflect even worse on Carmella. At least he accepts responsibility for what he is, while she in some way likes to think of herself as a good person.

I think that the showing off of the Porsche (which presumably he bought (at least in part) with his cut of thingy's inheritance) was meant as a counterpoint to the grim suicide scene.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:02 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post to gbx

In early 1992, after some high-level discussions, the DeCavalcante family sent out a hit team to whack acting boss John (Johnny Boy) D'Amato (left) for committing an unconscionable and most dishonorable crime: Being gay.
(this is one of the real life families that David Chase has used for source material on the show. they are set in Elizabeth NJ

JD from CDepot, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

What happened between Vito and Finn in the previous season? I completely forgot what their beef was.

Lovelace (Lovelace), Friday, 17 March 2006 12:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Finn saw Vito sucking construction worker cock.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Friday, 17 March 2006 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Then stood him up at a Yankees game!

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Friday, 17 March 2006 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh yeah! Now I totally remember that :)

Lovelace (Lovelace), Friday, 17 March 2006 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link

"He Marvin Gaye'd his own nephew, the boss of this family!"

The Day The World Turned Dayglo Redd (Ken L), Monday, 20 March 2006 02:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Diarrheastan

Jimmy Mod: GRILL ENSPEKTOR (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Monday, 20 March 2006 03:02 (eighteen years ago) link

amazing episode.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 20 March 2006 04:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not reading this thread, since I'm watching right now. So this may have been covered already. Nonetheless:

EDIE FUCKING FALCO

rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 20 March 2006 05:39 (eighteen years ago) link

this season is going to be relentless. jesus. I was sure tony would be ok until i saw this episode, now im thinking "would they?"

JD from CDepot, Monday, 20 March 2006 05:50 (eighteen years ago) link

wtf that ending!?

chaki (chaki), Monday, 20 March 2006 05:55 (eighteen years ago) link

great episode except for AJ .... damn, that dude can't act

Renard (Renard), Monday, 20 March 2006 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link

you crazy

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 20 March 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

actually, AJ seems exactly like a lot of teenagers I know--bad actors, all.

the best rumor I heard is that the first episode this season (last week, for those of you playing at home) is actually the second to the last episode of the series and that Tony will die on the last episode. In the intermittent 18 episodes (eps 2-19), we will fill in the blanks of the past two years and finish the series off with his death in #20.

Needless to say, last night's episode makes that theory a little shaky BUT the premise of not necessarily going a long ways forward in the timeline seems very possible.

don weiner (don weiner), Monday, 20 March 2006 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

we already talked about that story. it is a bad theory.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 20 March 2006 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

i mean, we already talked about that theory, and it is a bad theory.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 20 March 2006 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link


I do however think the theory posted above is bogus. For an extensive recap of what happened all year, shouldn't this episode have been *very* surprising to us viewers? I mean, shouldn't major events have taken place we can't grasp yet? It didn't. Surely, things happened: Junior's dementia is in an even worse (final?) phase, Chris is a captain now, Janice & Bobby's baby, but all of that isn't really *that* surprising is it?

Anyway, great episode, and I'm very anxious about next week!

-- Gerard (dronkenschi...), March 13th, 2006 3:39 PM. (Gerard)
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yeah, exactly. i think i already know how janice and bobby got that baby.

-- s1ocki (slytus...), March 13th, 2006 3:41 PM. (slutsky)

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 20 March 2006 21:22 (eighteen years ago) link

My theory is that those boys who are at the bing will be mistaken for suicide commandos but while they are getting whacked by Paulie and Chrissie the real commandos will be executing their mission.

The Day The World Turned Dayglo Redd (Ken L), Monday, 20 March 2006 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

AND THE WHOLE SEASON IS A BUILD-UP TO 9/11... HINT: YOU NEVER HEAR WHAT YEAR IT IS.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 20 March 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

r u srsly?

Jimmy Mod: GRILL ENSPEKTOR (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Monday, 20 March 2006 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link

surely 9/11 has already been mentioned on the sopranos

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 20 March 2006 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

It has

Jimmy Mod: GRILL ENSPEKTOR (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Monday, 20 March 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

FORESHADOWING.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 20 March 2006 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

HINT: YOU NEVER HEAR WHAT YEAR IT IS

No Porsche Cayenne in 2001.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 20 March 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Season 4 opened with a few references to 9/11 and how everything is different, etc. And season 5 had Carmine Jr. say that his family would be greeted with flowers in the Bronx and Brooklyn...

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 20 March 2006 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link

IT'S SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE BETWEEN SEASONS 3 AND FOUR.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 20 March 2006 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link

"Quasimoto predicted this."

Chris L, Monday, 20 March 2006 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link

don't be too quick to dismiss s1ocki's spec. i can say no more.

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 20 March 2006 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't understand, they made 9/11 references in the last episode!

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 20 March 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

AND WHAT OF KEVIN FINNERTY?

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 20 March 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow... amazing episode again. It'll be really interesting to watch how they play out this brilliant parallel line of Kevin Finnerty. I think Tony will stay in his coma for a couple of episodes though, they'll deliver this one nice and slowww. The capo's will be fighting over who's in charge, which won't do business any good. It wouldn't suprise me if there's actually some truth to AJ's threat to shoot 'mummyface'. He's close to losing it, one way or another.

(Googling Kevin Finnerty shows up an attorney and a *funeral director* by the same name, OMGWTF I figured out teh world!)

Gerard (Gerard), Monday, 20 March 2006 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link

"Hey, Van Helsing"

The Equator Lounge (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link

> It wouldn't suprise me if there's actually some truth to AJ's threat to shoot 'mummyface'. He's close to losing it, one way or another.

AJ is no Ziggy Sobatka.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 05:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought the AJ guy did really well at acting in this ep. I liked how when Meadow walked in, he went back into bored disaffected mode. I hope he's up to it, because I think he's going to play a huge part in this season. I'm almost kind of sorry to see Junior like this. He has been one of my favorite characters throughout the series.

josh in sf (stfu kthx), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 06:05 (eighteen years ago) link

AJ's acting > Meadow's acting

i'm excited with where AJ's role is going. can't wait for the ep when he sheds his locks.

so i'm watching this off a bittorrented rip and my copy ends with a real sudden break-- tony/finnerty's sitting on hotel bed, looking out window, nice music playing then CUT instantly to credits-- is that how it really ends, or do i have a bad rip that cuts off early?

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 06:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Carm to AJ: "Go have breakfast." what a great line

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 06:58 (eighteen years ago) link

he best rumor I heard is that the first episode this season (last week, for those of you playing at home) is actually the second to the last episode of the series and that Tony will die on the last episode. In the intermittent 18 episodes (eps 2-19), we will fill in the blanks of the past two years and finish the series off with his death in #20.

there are many reasons why this doesn't seem likely, and one more small one is that the sopranos has always taken place in extremely contemporary america, as up-to-date as possible, considering. witness the shots of bush in ep 1 in bullshit katrina photo-op (as wsb drones on about "treacherous ba"). witness the MIL OPS SPEC 2006 placard in the lobby early in this ep. chase would never devote a whole season to events that transpired two years ago.

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 07:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah it ends that way. They've always been good at dream sequences, but this coma stuff is top notch. For some reason it hits me in a really eerie way... it's so mundane. There has to be a point to it. Notice that he was a guy who sold patio furniture? A motif that pops up fairly often with him. I have to think he's going to come out of this coma and have some sort of revelation that deeply changes his character. Maybe in his first session with Melfie after he awakens. Bedside?

And seriously... Edie Falco is an amazing actor.

josh in sf (stfu kthx), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 07:58 (eighteen years ago) link

ok, thanks.
i guess the "next week on the sopranos" trailers are done for. another contribution to the anything-can-happen vibe so far this season.

religion was also a motif this ep: cross on TV screen in bar, the monks ("lose your arrogance" was it?), carmela's recanting her damnation.

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 08:37 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm hoping that tony wakes up as finnerty! hijinks ensue!

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link


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