AER draft leagues are up
here's trophy #1: http://i.imgur.com/CjwJvJ5.png
― ciderpress, Thursday, 26 January 2017 03:29 (seven years ago) link
just got to live the dream with Consolate Dreadnought + Siege Modification, I love this format already
― frogbs, Thursday, 26 January 2017 03:40 (seven years ago) link
yeah that seems like the invisible stalker/butchers cleaver of this format
― ciderpress, Thursday, 26 January 2017 03:45 (seven years ago) link
with the caveat that it's a lot easier to deal with. seems like the result a lot of times is gonna be block with Servo, blow up the artifact on your turn.
not sure what to think of Dreadnought as a whole. the thing that made those Crew 4-5 vehicles unplayable in KLD was that they ate up a spot in your curve where you really wanted to be playing a Riperian Tiger or some big flying body. Dreadnought can come out Turn 1 and at least help with Improvise spells in the meantime. I've gone from thinking this card was not very playable to thinking it may actually be an early pick.
― frogbs, Thursday, 26 January 2017 15:52 (seven years ago) link
i don't think it's an early pick, it's pretty niche to turbo-improvise decks
― ciderpress, Thursday, 26 January 2017 16:00 (seven years ago) link
even if it doesn't impact your curve you're still a card down if you can't ever do anything with it.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 26 January 2017 16:05 (seven years ago) link
true
I guess its difficult to know how it'll play since the vehicles in KLD had a pretty linear ratio of mana cost/crew cost/power level
whether or not this is playable is gonna have a lot to do with how much a 1 drop artifact benefits your deck otherwise
― frogbs, Thursday, 26 January 2017 16:14 (seven years ago) link
Another thing is, it comes online faster than you think. The issue with the big Crew KLD vehicles is that the creatures with high enough power to crew them were often in the same mana cost slot. Dreadnought comes out early and can be crewed by your 4 or 5 drop. The dynamic just seems different when you don't really have to pay mana to drop it.
― frogbs, Friday, 27 January 2017 03:19 (seven years ago) link
just found out that Key to the City is way way better with all this Improvise stuff around
― frogbs, Friday, 27 January 2017 04:26 (seven years ago) link
It was already a high pick for me
― Vinnie, Friday, 27 January 2017 05:31 (seven years ago) link
thinking it might be good sideboard tech for my Esper Aggro deck running 4-of Metallic Rebuke, especially if I need to punch through some Ishkanahs
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 27 January 2017 05:33 (seven years ago) link
so I'm going to the scg balt team event and need to decide on a modern deck. because it's a team event (and I'm going w/ strong players) I want to be extra-spikey about it.
what do you guys think is a good meta-call right now? could probably acquire anything for the tournament. I have a lot of experience w/ dredge, grixis delver, decent amount w/ infect, affinity. would want to practice a bit w/ anything else.
― iatee, Friday, 27 January 2017 14:28 (seven years ago) link
anyone have any experience w/ lantern?
― iatee, Friday, 27 January 2017 14:37 (seven years ago) link
have no clue what the metagame looks like after the bans + fatal push. would guess that valakut is good rn especially the through the breach builds.
― ciderpress, Friday, 27 January 2017 14:45 (seven years ago) link
to elaborate on that, it's a fast deck that didn't use probe and blanks fatal push
― ciderpress, Friday, 27 January 2017 14:54 (seven years ago) link
the Sram Modern deck is pretty hilarious
― frogbs, Friday, 27 January 2017 14:55 (seven years ago) link
is it just sram/puresteel paladin and all the 0 cost equips and retract? that seems powerful but fragile
― ciderpress, Friday, 27 January 2017 14:57 (seven years ago) link
yeah somebody was running it at the event I went to last night, he was getting wrecked by a pox deck
― iatee, Friday, 27 January 2017 14:58 (seven years ago) link
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=14527&d=287116&f=MO
that's pretty much it, yeah
kinda laughing at the idea of a Puresteel getting to 6/27 or whatever on turn 2
seems like the sort of deck that wins one event and promptly dies
― frogbs, Friday, 27 January 2017 14:59 (seven years ago) link
jeskai ascendancy is still my garbage combo deck of choice i think, if i had to play one
― ciderpress, Friday, 27 January 2017 15:02 (seven years ago) link
i'd play something close to this list if i had an important modern event tomorrowhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/552244#online
― ciderpress, Friday, 27 January 2017 15:06 (seven years ago) link
yeah i was thinking abt playing titanshift in vancouver that same wknd, i think lands decks are pretty well positioned rn. theyre also pretty easy to play. a friend of mine has been 5-0ing leagues with amulet for the last few months and im genuinely thinking abt that but i dont know how easy a sell that is for yr teammates
i am in prague this wknd to play magic cards. life is kinda weird
― ( ^_^) (Lamp), Saturday, 28 January 2017 05:23 (seven years ago) link
yeah last year I ended up in a lot of weird trump-y parts of the country I certainly would have never ever seen w/o this game
prague seems slightly more fun than allentown
― iatee, Saturday, 28 January 2017 06:00 (seven years ago) link
haha i was in columbus last week. before playing magic i had literally never been in ohio and now i at least drive through it every couple of months
― ( ^_^) (Lamp), Saturday, 28 January 2017 06:21 (seven years ago) link
yeah i was looking at the gp schedule and the next standard one i can go to is in omaha and its like...am i really going to omaha to play magic? maybe...
― ciderpress, Saturday, 28 January 2017 16:41 (seven years ago) link
good lord does this set have some powerful Uncommons in it. Ridgescale Tusker is completely nuts. Winding Constrictor is also a bit over the top, though I guess being two colors helps.
― frogbs, Sunday, 29 January 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link
yeah I won a sealed pptq yesterday on the back of tusker in the sealed and hidden stockpile aka bitterblossom in the draft. I hadn't had any experience with this set beyond one prerelease so I don't know how people were judging that card but it's pretty nuts as a draft around.
― iatee, Sunday, 29 January 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link
tusker is top 10 card in the set including rares
― ciderpress, Sunday, 29 January 2017 18:49 (seven years ago) link
awesome job iatee, Tusker is indeed insane
Managed to top 8 a Frontier 1K today with my jeskai spirits, was the top seed after 5 rounds of swiss, but got immediately destroyed in the semis by an ensoul deck that shrapnel blasted me to oblivion.
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 30 January 2017 00:28 (seven years ago) link
it's hard to look at the results for SCG Richmond and not think that wizards did more harm than good with the bannings
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 30 January 2017 02:58 (seven years ago) link
please don't panic before the pro tour, the SCG players pretty much never find all the good decks
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2017 03:26 (seven years ago) link
I'm not panicking, just not particularly thrilled about playing standard
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 30 January 2017 05:13 (seven years ago) link
Frank Karsten put Tusker as third-best card in the set. I haven't played any AVR yet, but it does seem like it could even outshine green Gearhulk in some rare instances, so I can buy it. Hooray for uncommon mythics
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 09:52 (seven years ago) link
Yeah it reminds me of Druid Familiar which was such an ass-kicking but it's even better than that card by a decent margin
― frogbs, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 14:52 (seven years ago) link
just looking over his list and karsten really phoned this one in
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:10 (seven years ago) link
karsten's rankings are always a bit weird
― iatee, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 15:33 (seven years ago) link
I'm gonna stick my neck out and say that nearly all limited reviews done before the person gets to actually play the format are fairly worthless. As much respect as I have for LSV when you look back on his articles they always seem to get a lot of things blatantly wrong.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:25 (seven years ago) link
Pick order articles in general just don't make a lot of sense anymore. Decks are way more about synergy so after one or two picks, the order really is meaningless. I prefer the articles that highlight overrated/underrated cards, but even then, no one really knows until the format is more defined. I feel like there's one card per set which would be great in 90% of all formats but the format is so skewed as to make that card decent at best. All that said, I still feel like most pre-PT articles written by pros have a small insight or three
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 21:43 (seven years ago) link
I felt that way about chandra's pyrohelix in kaladesh, I started drafting the set w/ decks w/ 3 of them thinking 'can't lose' and then I lost a lot
― iatee, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 21:47 (seven years ago) link
ari lax does the best pre-release limited articles since he uses a holistic approach rather than going through every card one by one. they're behind the scg paywall though alas.
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 21:51 (seven years ago) link
Renegade Map seems like the potential "innocuous but surprisingly good" common in the set
― frogbs, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 21:52 (seven years ago) link
but yeah the important questions never seems to be "which cards are best", but rather "do the best aggro creatures have 2 or 3 power", "which color combinations synergize the best", and "what turn does the game usually end on"
― frogbs, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 21:54 (seven years ago) link
yeah map is def a very high pick in this format
― iatee, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 22:00 (seven years ago) link
having fun out there
http://i.imgur.com/NxDuRZW.png
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 22:45 (seven years ago) link
my impression of the format so far is that the synergies have power and are well supported and playables run deep so you can and often should end up with a really good deck in draft. but having a deck that attacks every turn is still legit and probably the most consistent route to victory.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 22:49 (seven years ago) link
starting with Amonkhet, online set releases are happening immediately after the paper prerelease rather than 2 weeks later, it's about damn time
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 00:52 (seven years ago) link
ooh that is excellent news. the last few limited GPs I've gone to have been close to the start of the format and I spend most of the Friday before the GP learning the format through grinders. nice to know that I can come in with more practice
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 06:55 (seven years ago) link
in fact, I'm planning to hit GP Beijing in May, which was originally planned to be two days after the MTGO launch
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 06:57 (seven years ago) link
another potentially high pick - Scrounging Bandar. anything that lets you activate Revolt w/o a mana requirement seems good right now. Bandar has synergy with everything, it seems
― frogbs, Thursday, 2 February 2017 19:09 (seven years ago) link
i don't think bandar is better than the mana guy, prey upon, or the big trampler for green common
― ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link