Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

Did they ever address Sanders' "yeah, targeted drone killings, keep going" statement of last spring?

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, January 5, 2017 6:08 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sry morbs i've been ignoring this only because i hoped someone else would remember. i meant left econ policy of course. there's a good ep w jeremy scahill that's plenty caustic about drone policy and that i don't remember having too much fucking around in it, maybe there's a mention in there.

suspect yr implication is correct and that they more or less let it pass, but that's because their wing's support for bernie at this point is not based on his singular personal moral purity or even the moral superiority of leftism (tho the latter remains regardless) but on his and its ability to win.

I don't think Sanders had a coherent plan as far as what to do about military action. I mean, he went into the primary season not expecting to do as well as he did and was trying to push an economic/social(ist) platform and that remained the focus until he dropped out. I have no clue what he would have done had he actually gotten to the point of having to address it. If you check out his platform, it's under the vaguely titled "War and Peace" 3/4 of the way down the page
https://berniesanders.com/issues/

The general race didn't have anyone pushing the quality of life of people in other countries or the ongoing military presence outside of vague references to Syria and who was for or against invading Iraq (who gives a fuck, it's over a decade later, how about current events). Drones = less Americans on the ground and less questioning whether there should be an American presence at all because no one's on the ground so people don't seem to care

even the plight of people in Syria became a joke (Johnson's Aleppo gaffe) or some sort of token Russian interference implication in the Clinton/Trump debates, which was gross

brb vomiting into my trash can

all otm.

The point isn't that there are politicians they agree with more, they're hilariously joyless about Bernie in a way that feels hypocritical. If I read another stupid post by the show's acolytes with "the Bernie bro smear" ...
...

Anyway I've never listened to this show
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 5 January 2017 18:04 (yesterday) Permalink

How is this a contradiction?

And no it's not actually dumb to be dismissive of something bc of how it's followers act

I'm sure if I listen I'll find some equivalent of "the Bernie bro smear."

its hugely dumb to be dismissive of something because of how its followers act

like au contraire or w/e but cmon

lol there were literally a handful of people at my caucus in '08 chanting "obama! obama!" during the negotiation phase following the initial vote

darn obama bros

can we all just lock this thread and FP each other? that's the result. Let's move quickly

they swallowed the bambrosia

its hugely dumb to be dismissive of something because of how its followers act

It's been said you shall know the tree by its fruit, but otoh the quality of the fruit usually varies a lot on the same tree, so what does that say, eh?

a root and branch examination required

give it its natural manure

full length version of the remix they use for the theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-EaMFALFVU

great interview with Felix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxU94bxoeuo

annoyed and suspicious though that these guys struggle with pronouncing certain words (felix says "solipistic" toward the end of that vid...)

I'm not. English ain't a phonetic language, and if you primarily deal in written words moreso than talkin', stumbling can occur.

I still have problems pronouncing "epistemological," for example.

yeh i usually take the mispronunciation of complexish words to indicate an autodidact and i trust autodidacts even in our terrifying era of Fakery

he totally fails to get to the bottom of this "cuck" shit tho

def nitpicking here, i'm just used to radio people and people that have been podcasting for years, i know these guys have only been doing it for a year

lol makes me remember in college when hipster students were making fun of a girl for mispronouncing "Foucault" in class--but I only took it to mean she'd actually been reading whereas they had just been listening to people yammer about him.

otm

I was a voracious reader as a kid and probably mispronounced more than my fair share of words when I had college roommates to talk to all the time.

It does say something about the level of social and political engagement we're talking about, though -- if you're out in your community knocking on doors for candidates, talking to people after attending city council meetings, or even going to some "leftists meet at the bar" group you're going to trip over your words less than these guys do? At least if, at some point, you're used to making points to multiple people in a non-conversational way.

Some of their podcast conversations remind me of earlier in the year when I was busy doing some work on my house and mostly programming all day at work. When I actually was sitting in several meetings per day after that time, I had more than a few sentences that went nowhere and stumbled over words.

if you're out in your community knocking on doors for candidates, talking to people after attending city council meetings

kitchen-table discussions about solipsism and foucault

(no i agree expression improves w practice)

short version: I don't think these guys actually discuss any of this shit with people irl

lol at thinking not having regular conversations about solipsism is a demerit

nobody thought that, that was... the joke

oh, ok. it's been a long week. sorry.

lol at the idea of chiding "elitists" for occasionally mispronouncing things

this is the worst thread in the history of ilx, and the internet

You're welcome?

this is the worst thread in the history of ilx, and the internet

Oh come now we had a week of the Social Activism thread that was far more notable

so glad we could turn the thread about the funny podcast with the sex jokes and the yelling at bad articles into a secondhand dissection of the organizing capacity of bernie supporters based on how somebody pronounces the word august.

excuse me i only brought it up to illustrate these alleged leftists' craven embrace of the octavian usurpation

by far the worst of the ludlums

Is there a site that measures or tracks various Patreon accounts? I'm curious what their subscription levels have been over the past 6+ months. They've had an increase of a grand in the last week alone

Wow, they mentioned in a past episode that they were just below Canadaland, but they've more than doubled Canadaland's monthly take now

I think they had something like 1600 patrons when i subscribed in October but i may be misremembering.

7,337 patrons as of now

Did they ever address Sanders' "yeah, targeted drone killings, keep going" statement of last spring?

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, January 5, 2017 6:08 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sry morbs i've been ignoring this only because i hoped someone else would remember.

specifically mentioned in ep 11

they're almost at $400k / year. crazy

pompelmoose beardo is getting so rich off this shit

I bit the bullet and subscribed, the solo eps are v different and fun

Somebody put together an unofficial Discord group:

https://discordapp.com/invite/2w7ekS2

Lookit that, here's some data:

https://graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators

Currently behind the Kinda Funny show, and...uh...Amanda Palmer.

Ok, here's the chart I was looking for:

https://graphtreon.com/creator/chapotraphouse

Something happened on Nov 16 after I quit them, how'd they get so likey there?

new yorker profile?

it was that or The Dirtbag Left Gazzette

the cat poop meltdown was pretty...

or gazette.